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BREAKING:
— Kyle Griffin (@kylegriffin1.bsky.social) 2025-12-20T21:40:47.288Z
At least 16 files disappeared from the Justice Departmentâs public webpage for documents related to Jeffrey Epstein â including a photograph showing Trump â less than a day after they were posted, with no explanation from the government and no notice to the public.
BREAKING:
At least 16 files disappeared from the Justice Departments public webpage for documents related to Jeffrey Epstein including a photograph showing Trump less than a day after they were posted, with no explanation from the government and no notice to the public.
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The White House has been caught.
— MeidasTouch (@meidastouch.com) 2025-12-20T12:33:16.088Z
The administration inserted a photo of Bill Clinton, Michael Jackson, and Diana Ross into the Epstein files and falsely implied it showed them with victims.
In reality, itâs a publicly available fundraiser photo featuring Jackson and Rossâs own children.
The White House has been caught.
The administration inserted a photo of Bill Clinton, Michael Jackson, and Diana Ross into the Epstein files and falsely implied it showed them with victims.
In reality, its a publicly available fundraiser photo featuring Jackson and Rosss own children.
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Impeach everyone involved.
orangecrush
(28,399 posts)The Roux Comes First
(2,154 posts)It's probably pretty tough to do anything else.
littlemissmartypants
(31,658 posts)Characteristics of Psychopaths
1. Aggressive, callous, and cunning
2. Complete absence of conscience and empathy
3. Very adept at manipulating others
4. Willingness to engage in immoral, criminal conduct
5. Willingness to take what they want and do as they please, regardless of who is hurt or wronged
6. Deceptive ability to appear outwardly benevolent
7. Deceptive ability to behave in superficially charming ways to hide purely selfish motives
8. Willingness to use intimidation and violence to control others in order to satisfy their own needs
9. Willingness to intentionally violate the basic inherent human rights of others
10. Complete absence of any sense of guilt or remorse for the harm their actions have caused to others
11. Rationalization of their own immoral behavior
12. Will attempt to lay blame upon someone else for their own conduct
13. Denial, will deny their own wrongdoing outright
14. Utter contemptuousness toward the feelings and desires of their fellow beings
15. Pathological lying, will say anything without any concern for truth to advance their own hidden agendas
16. Ablity to feign [fake] normal human emotions and empathy
17. Distorted sense of the consequences of their actions
18. Total failure to accept any responsibility for their own socially irresponsible ways
19. Strong bellef that they will never be brought to justice for their criminal behavior
TubbersUK
(1,515 posts)Ocelot II
(129,098 posts)The more they redact or remove material, the more obvious it is that they're hiding something very bad. If they thought they could make the Epstein problem go away by hiding evidence, they thought wrong. Somebody knows what's in those files; somebody might even leak them like the Pentagon Papers. This sort of chicanery will just keep the matter in the news for as long as it takes to find out what's missing.
William Seger
(12,209 posts)Justice matters.
(9,395 posts)Wake me up when Justice will be equally applied.
surfered
(11,553 posts)littlemissmartypants
(31,658 posts)C_U_L8R
(48,880 posts)Clownish criminals like Trump and his hoods are gonna do stupid shit.
Keep tightening that noose, bozos.
bluestarone
(21,184 posts)KNOW what were in the files, and could be brought forth in future hearings that will be ongoing when WE control BOTH houses?
Emile
(40,634 posts)Bayard
(28,585 posts)Bill Clinton, Diana Ross, and Michael Jackson's estate should sue.
Wiz Imp
(8,994 posts)It's very possible that photo was among the photos in Epstein's possession. There were tens of thousands of them and they weren't all taken by Epstein or at one of his properties. There are other publicly available photos among those that they have released alread that were in Epstein's possession.
Now I will agree they released that photo on purpose to try to implicate Clinton in "something".
usedtobedemgurl
(1,931 posts)There was a photo of Trump they pulled. I read that earlier today. Now I am reading they replaced the orange one's photo with Clinton's photo.
Volaris
(11,403 posts)MadameButterfly
(3,746 posts)If they are being dishonest, where will it stop? They could insert any photo of anyone they please, and redact some people in it to make it suspicious.
Will they limit themselves to photos in the Epstein files, but choose only photos of Democrats and redact stuff to make them look suspicious? Maybe. Is there a way to track them so they won't risk adding photos not from the Epstein files? Because if there isn't, they'll be having a field day. All they have to do is convince enough of the people in the bubble.
Aussie105
(7,652 posts)1. The release of the original documents.
The redacted versions are just copies that have been heavily inked.
2. Someone involved in the redaction process to speak up.
They must have been given a list of 'sensitive' names and info to look for.
Just give us the list they worked from.
Not too much to ask for, surely?
Whistleblowers and leakers, do your thing!
The Watergate cover up was just boy scouts singing songs around the campfire compared to this!
MadameButterfly
(3,746 posts)it would take a very brave and selfless person. The punishment won't be what Daniel Ellsberg got. It will be murder, threats to family, or torture in a foreign prison.
We thought was Daniel Ellsberg went through was bad. But he knew he wouldn't get the death penalty and there would be courts determining the sentence, not some guy seeking revenge. That's how far we've come.
travelingthrulife
(4,463 posts)Cha
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fucking Demented Damaged WH?
MadameButterfly
(3,746 posts)And he never was very smart. But I wonder about the people going along with him who are neither lifelong malignant narcissists nor demented.
Cha
(316,794 posts)Demented or a Narcissistic vampire bat.
Also I wonder if anyone can control Traitor when he's in his Maniac moods which seems to be all the time now
MadameButterfly
(3,746 posts)and there might be others. I don't think JD Vance is, but he is under the control of Peter Theil, who might be. Then you have people like Rubio who clearly isn't, but is carrying out Trump's sick orders. I never liked Rubio but once upon a time he tried to implement real immigration reform and his party wouldn't let him. Look how far he has fallen.
When the head malignant narcississt is removed, many of the people under his sway will return to normal. Will there be enough malignant narcissists left to keep the insanity going? Or will they all wake up as if from a bad dream and say "what have I done?" Like the kids in Lord of the Flies.
AZJonnie
(2,831 posts)So, we know there's 16. One with Trump, this one with Clinton, et al.
However, if I'm fair about it (which I always try to be, even when I despise people with every fiber of my being), the same logic for why a picture of Clinton, Jackson and Ross should be pulled down could arguably be applied to the pic of Trump as well. The best argument for why the Trump pic should remain is that because, well, Trump is POTUS now, and therefore not a private citizen, and the public has a special interest in knowing past behavior of current POTUS (but not the previous ones).
This is one problem with the 'We Must Release ALL the files/photos!!!" angle I've seen bandied about often, and hence why I've argued against it. Because one person's "appropriate to release" photo is another persons "false accusation" photo.
Anyways, anyone know the nature of the other 14 that were removed?
Fil1957
(539 posts)The people working for this administration are really stupid.
LilElf70
(1,380 posts)Trump and his entire admin are corrupt. Now the proof comes out. Impeach them all. I'd love to see jail time too.
Joinfortmill
(20,080 posts)The only question is which ones spill be beans for a plea deal.
Coldwater
(947 posts)and they don't care because the rule of law no longer applies

Hugin
(37,441 posts)So, it has a name now. The Big FU. Which given the commentary coming from the DoJ and the entire Trumpist establishment prior to the release was to be expected.
Rhetorical questions at this point:
Whats to be done about it? Will the slow cinching of the drip, drip, drip eventually snowball into a collapse? Who picks up the pieces? Is the new emphasis on Trumps mental state meant to give other Republican co-conspirators cover?
corruption like nobody's ever seen before!