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Trumps boasts about passing cognitive tests suggest hes being monitored for the progression of dementia, one psychologist says.
Dr. John Gartner told The Daily Beast Podcast that the 79-year-old presidents claim to have aced three Montreal Cognitive Assessments could be more than simple routine screenings for the degenerative disease.
You know, he kind of gave the game away again, as he often does, Gartner, a former professor at Johns Hopkins, told co-host Joanna Coles about Trump claiming to have passed a test in front of large numbers of doctors and experts, most of whom I do not know.
You could maybe justify giving someone the MoCA once, just on their age, just as part of a physical. If youre giving it to him three times, that means youre not assessing dementia. That means youre monitoring dementia, Gartner said.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-mental-decline-is-accelerating-psychologist/
dem4decades
(14,159 posts)Rocknation
(45,007 posts)which can have the possible side effects of your brain swelling or bleeding.
P.S. Two dementia medications in particular are administered intravenously, which might explain the bruising on that back of his hands.
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Rocknation
dem4decades
(14,159 posts)marble falls
(71,984 posts)dem4decades
(14,159 posts)dsc
(53,406 posts)bucolic_frolic
(55,375 posts)Alarming in itself
iluvtennis
(21,506 posts)allegorical oracle
(6,507 posts)word "sycophant" means, but he mispronounced it as SYNCophants".
Niagara
(11,876 posts)I'm banking they tell him what a great job he did, how smart he is and then he repeats what they tell him.
If his handlers didn't lie to him he most likely wouldn't perform these tests since he's defiant and has a terrible temperament.
It's similar to having a young child and getting them to complete tasks and to insure they behave themselves.
marble falls
(71,984 posts)iluvtennis
(21,506 posts)markodochartaigh
(5,545 posts)my sister mentioned having been given the MoCA by a nurse's aide while waiting for her primary care physician. Although she is 66 there was no other clinical indication for the test. The practice has recently adopted a more efficient model and requires patients to be in the room thirty minutes before the appointment or the appointment is rescheduled. This is in Amarillo and I wonder if the MoCA is being done so that patients can say that they got the same test as Trump.
Phoenix61
(18,847 posts)markodochartaigh
(5,545 posts)if they can bill for it. My sister's primary care physician is a personal friend, but the practice has undergone a transition towards improved profitability.
Phoenix61
(18,847 posts)by the doctor. Not saying thats what happened but
markodochartaigh
(5,545 posts)My sister is a nurse practitioner, so she is well able to identify a nurse aide.
markodochartaigh
(5,545 posts)I'm a registered nurse and I vividly remember a doctor giving detailed orders on a critically ill patient to a nurse aide who had only the most rudimentary English fluency. Fortunately I was listening to the whole episode. It is a valid point to observe that sometimes health care workers may not be properly identified by patients or others.
Phoenix61
(18,847 posts)occasion. When that happens I do some education on the difference between a psychiatrist, a psychologist, and an LCSW.
marble falls
(71,984 posts)... a good question based on your anecdote!
usonian
(25,759 posts)You know what he passed?

This.
After three hours.
With a hammer.
Rocknation
(45,007 posts)Having dementia while a U.S. president means that you've GOT to go, and IMMEDIATELY. And CONCEALING that you have dementia because you're a U.S. president who wants to CONTINUE to be a U.S. President means that you've got to go DIRECTLY TO JAIL.
Rocknation
lame54
(39,854 posts)His cognivity is tremendous
marble falls
(71,984 posts)ananda
(35,274 posts)It was no problem, though I know I have some
cognitive decline due to age.
eppur_se_muova
(42,057 posts)Cheezoholic
(3,767 posts)Wonder what his clock looks like lol
Katinfl
(847 posts)First time ever. So you say it is now part of a Medicare thing? I am 78.
Cheezoholic
(3,767 posts)Its why I asked. I was surprised as it was my first one. And when asked to draw the clock I was surprised as I put 1 at the top then just before I put 2 I paused and put the 2 next to the 1 lol. Little slippage there but I hadn't drawn a clock in maybe 50 years lol.
Katinfl
(847 posts)Then she had me do the time 10:50. I looked at my watch because I did not remember which was the minute hand, etc. Of course I can tell time, but when was the last time you had to draw a picture of one? I cheated and looked at my wristwatch , lol. Next time I will remember.
spooky3
(38,705 posts)IMHO has a different meaning than it would have had 10+ years ago.
marble falls
(71,984 posts)malaise
(296,740 posts)I am exhausted
marble falls
(71,984 posts)... Real prison, like they did to Bernie Madoff, the Enron crooks, and John Gotti.
TNNurse
(7,541 posts)There are so many other things that apply.
relayerbob
(7,436 posts)Suggests he has failed them all