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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forums"They" are being highly successful in trying to change the subject of Epstein and Trump to Bill Clinton.
I have seen CBS, CNN, News Nation, Fox, and my local Sinclair Station all lead off their
coverage of the release of the Epstein Files with pictures of Bill Clinton including a 1990s
promotional picture of Bill Clinton, Diana Ross, and her children with the express purpose of
of changing the subject of Epstein, Trump, Child Rape, blackmail, and sex trafficking to Bill
Clinton and his penis. Because a % of American people will now associate the Epstein Files
with Bill Clinton because of those images being broadcast.
This is like in 2004 when they painted John Kerry a true combat hero in Vietnam as a coward
even though he was awarded a Silver Star, a Bronze Star, 3 Purple Hearts, and saved one of his
Swift Boat team member from certain death by risking his own life or in 2016 when Russia hacked
into HRC and the DNCs computers and then shipped back edited information about HRC her emails
and her email server via Facebook (which after the election paid a 5 billion $ fine and changed their
name to META).
Pure Ratfucking of the highest order.
Walleye
(43,817 posts)OldBaldy1701E
(10,188 posts)The programming worked, after all.
Pavlov's dogs have nothing on the people of the United States!
Johonny
(25,456 posts)Their are no good people running those networks.
Lovie777
(21,762 posts)corporate media propaganda takeover. Its already backfiring . Americans pocketbooks are in the gutter along with healthcare and the realization of this psycho government.
shithole maybe on his way out, but damn the white nationalist aka Nazi is in waiting.
Diamond_Dog
(39,766 posts)Botany
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beauty pageants and modeling try outs to recruit girls for abuse. And I might be wrong but how
many young people from all over the world got sucked into that industry and just disappeared?
Not unless that woman is dead inside like Pam B..
Diamond_Dog
(39,766 posts)Botany
(76,398 posts)NJCher
(42,473 posts)They have no conscience. They lack the hardware.
BComplex
(9,748 posts)Because some very sick women get off on it. Example: Ghislaine Maxwell, and, of course, Pam Bondi. Why else would Pam Bondi allow this? Why else would she stick with trump knowing full well what she knows? She gets off on it.
My guess is that a lot of the republican women get off on this kind of thing, or why else would they support the republicans and their agenda? Republicans are just SICK. They are all rotten to the core.
Botany
(76,398 posts)
him in Civil Court however before one of those trials they had criminal cases and
a man had been rapping his 12 year old step daughter* and the biological mom was
helping him do so and I was so repulsed that I left the court room. The bailiff followed
me out to the hall and told me that I wasnt allowed back into the court as long as the
procedure for those shits was going on to which I said, fine. He smiled @ me and said
You didnt like being around those people. To which I said fine and could you leave that
dirtbag with me for a little bit. He said, no but patted my shoulder. He was huge too.
The victim was the cutest little red headed girl.
intheflow
(29,993 posts)You think they want to know about Trump? They want validation of Pizzagate. They want the files to own the libs.
Wiz Imp
(8,982 posts)Ignore right wing media - they aren't interested in the truth. They're the only ones trying to claim anything about Clinton. How many pictures are there of Clinton with Epstein? A handful at most. How many pictures have already been seen of Trump with Epstein? Hundreds. Sorry, but I don't think their "plan" has been successful at all. It's already been proven that they redacted Trump's name and withheld Trump photos and all legitimate media have reported that. The people responsible for the law being passed including the victims are not buying it at all. The outrage by the public in general about Trump covering up for Epstein and other pedophiles has only grown louder since Friday's release. The truth will come out.
Botany
(76,398 posts)Say Epstein Files and then show a picture and to some the neural pathways have been
greased and downloaded with disinformation.
karynnj
(60,780 posts)The Epstein story has been prominent since the Miami Herald articles. Even in 2008, when he took the sweetheart deal, many politicians gave campaign donations to charity as is done when any donor is seen guilty of anything bad.
Dave says
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There is no hope of changing them. Their brains are hardwired. But for the rest of us, we want the truth.
Botany
(76,398 posts)But this misinformation helps to reinforce their thanking.
BannonsLiver
(20,277 posts)Getting a grip.
The Trump DOJ has had nearly a year to search everything for the very worst of Bill Clinton. This includes any incriminating photos or transcripts. Do you seriously believe if any girl accused Clinton of anything, even if not illegal, that part of the transcript would be there with her name redacted and would have been prominently shared by Trump people.
I suspect that MAGA, even if delighting in the presence of photos of Clinton and Epstein, is disappointed that all the photos can be explained as Clinton and his foundation accepting the use of Epstein's plane and support. Just as Clinton explained years ago.
Baitball Blogger
(51,728 posts)Botany
(76,398 posts)And you are 100% right the Epstein Files havent been released but the designed
manipulation of their brains biochemistry has been accomplished.
Diraven
(1,824 posts)There was so much hype for the first release, and after it became obvious that they were going to ignore the law and only release a few highly redacted files which don't implicate Trump at all the media has pretty much already moved on.
Baitball Blogger
(51,728 posts)None of it will be helpful to Trump.
JI7
(93,209 posts)ChicagoTeamster
(441 posts)Botany
(76,398 posts)Just look @ the Russian sponsored misinformation on the threat from trans people or
COVID vaccines or the disease. Just like the MAGA movement is 500 miles wide and
an 1/8 of inch deep and is being in directed by foreign web sites in order to make people
think that there is really something there.
Texin
(2,832 posts)TSF's so-called base, but among the rest of the population, not so much.
Botany
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Rinse, lather, & repeat.
NJCher
(42,473 posts)Confirms their bias.
ChicagoTeamster
(441 posts)DownriverDem
(6,971 posts)YouTube.com (free one) and search for MeidasTouch. They post videos often and have saved my sanity.
AllaN01Bear
(28,605 posts)gah.
LAS14
(15,457 posts)... agree that "it was embarrasing" but not criminal. What's embarrasing about being photographed in a hot tub? We shared a hot tub with our neighbors. It was all the rage a couple of decades ago. And by now we know that tons and tons of people shared social situations with Epstein and Maxwell. What was embarrasing???? Going too far witih "both sider-ism" is what I say.
llmart
(17,316 posts)First of all, the only people I know who watch mainstream news like CBS, ABC, NBC are older and don't use the computer for much. The people who are possibly glad it was Clinton in the pics are the ones who are going to vote GOP anyway. Even they probably know it's obvious this was a set-up and designed by this administration. You'd have to be pretty stupid and gullible to think it wasn't. Yeah, I know, MAGA is stupid and gullible, but as I said they'd already be voting GOP anyway. No big loss.
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Botany
(76,398 posts)I am allowed to present what to me makes sense to me on a forum based on political thoughts,
discussions, and metaphysical content arent I?
Right now the Republicans, much of the media, and other intergalactic entities are pushing
Hey, look @ Bill Clinton in order to deflect from Trumps child raping history.
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Botany
(76,398 posts)You have an agenda that is antithetical to Americas best interests.
Good Bye.
Uncle Joe
(64,231 posts)https://www.democraticunderground.com/1016419989
Thanks for the thread Botany
LetMyPeopleVote
(174,961 posts)Botany
(76,398 posts)But still damage is being done. John Kerry was a hero in Vietnam and w went and hid in the
Texas Air National Guard until the night before his piss test when he transferred himself to
the Alabama National Guard and then the subject got switched to Dan Rather by Rove,
Creative Response Concepts, and the right wing media and party.
yellow dahlia
(4,543 posts)CNN can be especially guilty of going for the gossip angle, rather than the law and the nitty gritty.
There is a world of difference between tawdry behavior (a la Monica L.) and criminal behavior.
Lots of people on DU have pointed out the nonsense of the inserted photo of Clinton w/ Michael Jackson and Diana Ross and her kids.
We look past what they want us to think.
MSNOW is pointing out the distractions, rather than following the bouncing ball of deflection.
valleyrogue
(2,580 posts)He was like many others Epstein knew but weren't remotely involved in Epstein's crimes.
Always remember they are invoking his name to divert attention from Trump, who had a long friendship with Epstein.
