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ProudMNDemocrat

(20,622 posts) Mon Dec 22, 2025, 08:53 AM Dec 22

Conservative Infighting Explodes At Turning Point USA's AmericaFest

It appears there is MAGA TROUBLE in MAGAland, ladies and gentlemen. Factions within the ultra MAGA universe cannot decide what is means to be all Pro-White America. Let the infighting commence as the divides over how to address conspiracy theories and antisemitism were put on full display.
Get ready to read more about the term "Heritage American"

Top conservative influencers repeatedly turned on each other at Turning Point USA’s annual confab this past week while grappling with how to take on rising antisemitism and bigotry in the Republican Party.

The sold-out gathering, which was billed as AmericaFest and held in Phoenix, was the first event of its magnitude since TPUSA’s founder Charlie Kirk was shot and killed earlier this year. The infighting points to deeper divides the party is struggling to address, particularly since many of its younger members have embraced Nick Fuentes, a white supremacist and Holocaust denier, and other extremist views.

Ben Shapiro, a prominent conservative commentator, opened the event with a scathing takedown of a slew of Republican pundits, including some he accused of elevating conspiracy theories and antisemitism.

“The conservative moment is also in danger from charlatans who claim to speak in the name of principle, but actually traffic in conspiracism and dishonesty,” Shapiro said. “These people are frauds, and they are grifters, and they do not deserve your time.”

More at......https://www.huffpost.com/entry/turning-point-usa-ben-shapiro-tucker-carlson_n_6948be6be4b099a75cbd47c6?origin=home-latest-news-unit

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Conservative Infighting Explodes At Turning Point USA's AmericaFest (Original Post) ProudMNDemocrat Dec 22 OP

I'm ok with them destroying each other.............. Lovie777 Dec 22 #1

So am I. calimary Dec 22 #5

I'm more than okay. ShazzieB Dec 22 #9

I'm loving it IronLionZion Dec 22 #13

My take on "Heritage American" is a RACIST trope that means.... ProudMNDemocrat Dec 22 #2

I think they'd really like to reinstate slavery radical noodle Dec 22 #3

We have also seen that recently with MTG and Matt Gaetz. keep_left Dec 22 #6

They do mental gymnastics to justify their idiotic hatred IronLionZion Dec 22 #14

The only true Heritage Americans are Native Americans. Lonestarblue Dec 22 #4

Your words are true. chouchou Dec 22 #15

Good Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Dec 22 #7

"Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake." Dulcinea Dec 22 #8

Hilarious! bonzotex Dec 22 #10

Amen. I woke up a little few minutes ago, read this discussion and thought another reality had snuck in.. chouchou Dec 22 #16

In the Republican Civil war, Ben Shapiro is losing womanofthehills Dec 22 #18

Good! This movement is terrible. The sooner it dies, the better! Initech Dec 22 #11

It pegs my S-Meter .. Bo Zarts Dec 22 #12

Republican food fights are always the most besterest! /nt artemisia1 Dec 22 #17

Lovie777

(21,762 posts)

1. I'm ok with them destroying each other..............

Reply to ProudMNDemocrat (Original post)

Mon Dec 22, 2025, 08:55 AM

Dec 22

calimary

(89,041 posts)

5. So am I.

Reply to Lovie777 (Reply #1)

Mon Dec 22, 2025, 11:41 AM

Dec 22

And don’t forget the popcorn!

ShazzieB

(22,214 posts)

9. I'm more than okay.

Reply to Lovie777 (Reply #1)

Mon Dec 22, 2025, 02:04 PM

Dec 22

I believe the word for how I feel is "delighted"!

IronLionZion

(50,819 posts)

13. I'm loving it

Reply to Lovie777 (Reply #1)

Mon Dec 22, 2025, 06:48 PM

Dec 22

I love when haters hate each other

ProudMNDemocrat

(20,622 posts)

2. My take on "Heritage American" is a RACIST trope that means....

Reply to ProudMNDemocrat (Original post)

Mon Dec 22, 2025, 09:02 AM

Dec 22

Last edited Mon Dec 22, 2025, 01:26 PM - Edit history (1)

If you are not from a country that settled in America prior to the American Revolution(England or the Netherlands), YOU are NOT an AMERICAN. Immigrants from other parts of the world appear not to count.

So what about the Africans that were brought to this new continent AGAINST their wills to satisfy the lust of owners of huge tracts of land that became plantations? What of the people from other parts of Europe that spoke languages not English? This term "Heritage American" applies to those of Anglo-Saxon origins(England) only?

Do these TPUSA freaks want APARTHEID for the United States? Why do they not just say that right out?

radical noodle

(10,482 posts)

3. I think they'd really like to reinstate slavery

Reply to ProudMNDemocrat (Reply #2)

Mon Dec 22, 2025, 09:56 AM

Dec 22

or send them back to Africa.

keep_left

(3,160 posts)

6. We have also seen that recently with MTG and Matt Gaetz.

Reply to ProudMNDemocrat (Reply #2)

Mon Dec 22, 2025, 12:01 PM

Dec 22

IIRC, MTG and Gaetz were planning to start a "WASP-American 'think' tank" of sorts, feeling that those Americans who couldn't trace their history back to the Mayflower weren't "real" Americans: the Irish, Italians, Slavs, Poles, etc. It's about as extreme and anti-American as it gets, but here we are.

IronLionZion

(50,819 posts)

14. They do mental gymnastics to justify their idiotic hatred

Reply to ProudMNDemocrat (Reply #2)

Mon Dec 22, 2025, 06:54 PM

Dec 22

Nick Fuentes is a self-hating Mexican-American who hates "the wrong kind" of Mexicans. It's idiotic.

We know what actual Nazis would do with Ben Shapiro and other conservative minorities. They'd probably get Fuentes too for being Hispanic.

Lonestarblue

(13,227 posts)

4. The only true Heritage Americans are Native Americans.

Reply to ProudMNDemocrat (Original post)

Mon Dec 22, 2025, 11:31 AM

Dec 22

White people are Johnny Come Latelies compared to Native Americans.

chouchou

(2,805 posts)

15. Your words are true.

Reply to Lonestarblue (Reply #4)

Mon Dec 22, 2025, 06:54 PM

Dec 22

Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(132,849 posts)

7. Good

Reply to ProudMNDemocrat (Original post)

Mon Dec 22, 2025, 01:24 PM

Dec 22

Dulcinea

(9,667 posts)

8. "Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake."

Reply to ProudMNDemocrat (Original post)

Mon Dec 22, 2025, 01:57 PM

Dec 22

Attributed to Napoleon Bonaparte

bonzotex

(873 posts)

10. Hilarious!

Reply to ProudMNDemocrat (Original post)

Mon Dec 22, 2025, 05:15 PM

Dec 22

He's actually right of course, but when Ben Shapiro becomes your voice of reason, you are truly drinking from an intellectual diarrhea fountain.

chouchou

(2,805 posts)

16. Amen. I woke up a little few minutes ago, read this discussion and thought another reality had snuck in..

Reply to bonzotex (Reply #10)

Mon Dec 22, 2025, 06:57 PM

Dec 22

womanofthehills

(10,713 posts)

18. In the Republican Civil war, Ben Shapiro is losing

Reply to bonzotex (Reply #10)

Mon Dec 22, 2025, 09:11 PM

Dec 22

It’s the war of Israel First vs America First. On line, the America first Republicans like Tucker, Candace, Massie etc are getting huge audiences while the Israel first like Ben Shapiro, Mark Levin, etc are losing podcast numbers. Ben might have to stop his podcast for lack of funds while Candace & Tucker are in top 5 in world. Young Turks going into this on X.