General Discussion
Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsMddowblog-Why JD Vance's 'Christian nation' claim is more than just ahistorical nonsense
The vice president's rhetoric was absurd, but just as notable was the sentiment behind the rhetoric.
JD Vanceâs insistence that the U.S. is a âChristian nationâ was ahistorical nonsense.
— Steve Benen (@stevebenen.com) 2025-12-22T13:02:33.177Z
But just as notable is the sentiment behind the rhetoric: He wants non-Christians to know they might be tolerated under his vision, but theyâll still be relegated to second-class status. www.ms.now/rachel-maddo...
https://www.ms.now/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/why-jd-vances-christian-nation-claim-is-more-than-just-ahistorical-nonsense
The vice president also said that the only thing that has truly served as an anchor of the United States of America is that we have been, and by the grace of God we always will be, a Christian nation a remark met with raucous applause.
Indeed, Vance received an exceedingly warm welcome from the far-right crowd, but his Christian nation comment appeared to be the rhetoric the audience liked the most.
JD Vance gets the biggest applause of his speech so far when he says "by the grace of God we always will be a Christian nation"
— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar.com) 2025-12-21T19:31:24.820Z
The obvious problem with the Ohio Republicans assertion, which is popular within the Republican Partys theocratic wing, is that the claim is offensive, ahistorical nonsense.
The United States is based on a secular Constitution the nations actual anchor which in turn created a secular government. Thomas Jefferson wrote in 1802 that our First Amendment built a wall of separation between church and state. In 1797, John Adams agreed: The government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian Religion.
Americans unsure what to believe have a straightforward choice: They can listen to Vance, or they can read the Constitution and honor the declarations of actual Founding Fathers. This doesnt seem like an especially tough call.
But just as notable is the sentiment behind the rhetoric: Those who espouse the idea that the United States is a Christian nation appear eager to those of minority faiths, as well as those whove chosen no religious path, Youll be tolerated, but youre still The Other, relegated to second-class status......
Its no secret that Vance is positioning himself as Donald Trumps heir apparent and the incoming leader of the so-called MAGA movement. We continue to learn how, exactly, the vice president intends to claim that mantle.
Attilatheblond
(8,291 posts)Is he really working to get the wife to file for divorce?
efhmc
(16,077 posts)valleyrogue
(2,580 posts)to force their beliefs via the law on everybody else. They will claim they are bringing the country "back" to a time that never was, of course.
Nothing else.