Thanks for the thread LetMyPeopleVote

Chump is the one who's try to hide. Chump is such a lying weasel and now he's getting the Repukes to believe that it's all about Clinton and not him.

Once again, the mistaken belief in "presidential immunity" has no bearing here. Whatever crimes Chump committed in cahoots with Epstein happened long before he was president. He has no immunity and he can't claim it now. The Supreme Court cannot get him out of this one.

All that money and power won't mean squat if he is sick and dying.

Trump is not well and may not last much longer

No one wants to 'touch' him is the problem.

Mainly because of what will come out once they start that snowball rolling.

So, they won't do it because they are beholden to their 'sugar daddies'.

That "Pantoad" is the word you were aiming for!
Somehow it evokes a wonderfully surreal image of the Hellbeast.
Thank you.

they would have to make full disclosure.

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Would be interested in how folks feel about these photos. The second one below is kind of hard to excuse. trump is still guilty, but what about others-- Clinton, Gates, Dimon, Chomsky, Derkowhich (?), etc.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/see-photos-and-documents-from-the-latest-epstein-file-release

Here’s Tim Kaine saying he owes an explanation.

…his demand that they make public all information in the files about him suggests he feels he has nothing to hide.

And the fact that Bondi released a long-available, public domain photo of Clinton, Michael Jackson, and Diana Ross, along with their children, except that the kids have their faces redacted to give the impression that they were some of Epstein’s trafficked children, makes me even more suspicious that this may be a deliberate hit-job. I’m all in favor of tossing Bill behind bars if he was found to be involved in sexually assaulting children, but his response here is the first time I’ve thought there might be nothing behind such accusations.

Actually, an EXCELLENT point!

That old “drag Clinton into it” distraction strategy won’t be working so well for trump anymore.

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to be apologizing and trying to make it right for the victims, not trying to blame it on trump DOJ.

Again, trump is still a rapist and POS, but not impressed with Clinton's press release.

Would be interested in how folks feel about these photos. The second one below is kind of hard to excuse. trump is still guilty, but what about others-- Clinton, Gates, Dimon, Chomsky, Derkowhich (?), etc.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/see-photos-and-documents-from-the-latest-epstein-file-release

I have not seen it.

He was in a public pool surrounded by people.

You are saying stuff that isn't accurate.

Where is it?

Like trump, Clinton should explain.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c8r38ne1x2mo

Empire Hotel. Fact. Again see post #35 in this thread. Have to debunk this shit propaganda, nip it in the bud immediately. Peace.

Just stop it.

Geesh... Sorry for yelling lol ... but first get your facts straight. The pics were taken in the Empire Hotel, Brunei Darussalm. Borneo, Southeast Asia. The Pool and Hot Tub ....

Start from the 9 minute mark of this video for proof.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100220881023

If Bill wants all this stuff out there .... lets see it then. Whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty in this country? Assumptions make a fool out of you and me etc .... lol. Same ol same ol... NOT EPSTEIN'S POOL. Let's just start with 'facts'. Have a great afternoon.

WTF? EPSTEIN IS DEAD. AND NOT IN THE POOL PICS EITHER. HOW THE HELL IS A DEAD PERSON GOING TO EXPLAIN? RELEASE THE FILES F%$#k !!! Geesh ... you're NOT being at all logical and just again being incoherent. Not worth my time anymore conversing with you. All the best and Merry Christmas anyway.

In a hotel pool overseas, wonder how much MSM will mention this?

But our MSM is either complicit or just lazy now-a-days. Our power is debunking IMMEDIATELY, AND spreading the truth fast, far and wide. Either on Social Media, Word Of Mouth, however we can like a wildfire. We all have a part. Merry Christmas!

Video provided by post #35 proves it was an overseas hotel swimming pool and everyone was wearing
swimming suits and no Epstein in sight. Simply more of the DOJ lying about President Clinton as another
distraction from dumpie's own Epstein problem. That's two sets of photos now there was absolutely no way
the DOJ found them in the Epstein files.

Pam Bondi and others in the DOJ should be behind bars for their masquerade.

It was a hotel pool at a stop during one of the Clinton Foundation’s tours.

Epstein helped fundraise for the Foundation and lent it his plane since the Clintons didn’t have a plane of their own. I’m assuming he came along for the ride.

In 20/20 hindsight it’s shitty optics but this was before Epstein’s crimes were known.

At a conference. How do you know who was next to him? It wasn't Hillary, but it could have been. They blacked out Diana Ross' own kids to make it look like she and Clinton were being pedos, instead of presenting together at a fundraiser.

You are really buying into the Bondi Coverup hook, line, and sinker.

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Would be interested in how folks feel about these photos. The second one below is kind of hard to excuse. trump is still guilty, but what about others-- Clinton, Gates, Dimon, Chomsky, Derkowhich (?), etc.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/see-photos-and-documents-from-the-latest-epstein-file-release

you sure uhhh got a lot to say ... all in fun. Thanks for keeping it uhhh interesting

You just called Bill Clinton a rapist with no proof.

That is, why the fuck would the Clintons come within 100 yards of the pieces of shit Epstein and Maxwell, we are on much different paths.

I see a picture with Clinton in a pool, one female blocked out, one looks like Maxwell. You seem ready to convict based on that. Possible explanations, the Clintons were swimming in a pool, Maxwell jumps in and a pic is snapped.

Now, we also should agree that the Jackson/Ross photo was absolute bullshit, agree?

So if one bullshit pic is pushed by the DOJ, I am definitely going to question the veracity of other photos.

Why do you keep apologizing?

There's no comparison. Clinton is demanding the complete files' release; Piggy is a pedophile rapist and sex trafficker.

Sorry. There's no comparison.

Serious question.

That was such a lame attempt to incriminate Clinton as a distraction. These idiots are very good at this kind of deceit.

Bill Clinton has nothing to hide and has done nothing wrong.

He doesn't have the files--Trump does.

covering his rear, shifting blame from his own actions, etc. Lawyers probably told him to do it.

It is unbelievable to see this here on DU.

It is gobsmacking to me you are putting a spin on pix that show nothing weird, and one of them was 100% manipulated and added (the one with him and Jackosn, and Diana Ross and her kids).


Interesting to me you are buying the coverup.

tripling, and quadrupling down.

And the poster is literally making stuff up and posting it ie was an Epstein Party at Epstein Island, when it was literally at a public hotel pool with other people cropped out by the DOJ, like teh Diana Ross pic.

If it had been incriminating of Clinton, all of it would have been released. Note how the DoJ included a publicity photo of Clinton and Diana Ross? They’ve got nothing.

why he was on Epstein's plane. Clinton has never been on that rape Island and Bill has never had events with him like the orange sack of shit has.

Mr Clinton is guilty of sheesh 🙄, must be guilty of SOMETHING, no matter what facts with appropriate links, are put before you. Just wondering WHY you are really here? Finding it IMPOSSIBLE you are fighting so bloody hard for this particular DOJ, which at this point should carry the label DOf INJUSTICE. They’ve shown who and what they’re about ad nauseum. Where you been?? Not paying attention it appears

Your post sounds a little like this; "Hey, Mega dittos Rush. Let me tell you, I am a lifelong Democrat, but......."

You are creating that from nothing but air.

I find Clinton's affairs awful and if true the multiple accusations of sexual violence even worse, but sitting in a hot tub or with his arm around but not touching a girl/young woman's waist aren't crimes.

This is the problem with releasing random pictures that aren't part of a specific allegation. Shockingly a rich guy trying to maximize his power met with lots of powerful, rich, or important people. Doesn't mean they were involved with any crime.

if dumpie will manipulate a photo with Bill, Diana Ross and Jackson and claim "look what we found in the
Epstein files", I'd damn sure add 2 & 2 together and assume this hot tub photo was manipulated also.

Where can this hot tub photo be found? Time for a little search by image.

Fact.

You have been told many times this was at a public pool at a conference and not a party on anyone's island.

At a public hotel pool.

found a couple really large ones that show Bill is wearing his dark colored swimming trunks, and the one
with the 2 women in a swimming pool with him, they both have their bikinis on. Believe the one FQX is
calling a hot tub is in the same swimming pool. Surprised someone here hasn't gotten a hide.

Now saying it was an Epstein Party in Asia.

They keep moving the goalposts.

It is being misrepresented in thsi thread.

Clinton is a cheater, not a rapist of minors.

I did not have sexual relations with that woman!

Guess what, that was a lie. Why is this different?

…is no different than bigots who claim gay men who have consensual relationships with other gay men are all child sex abusers.

For God’s sake, man…

The poster I responded to thought clinton should be believed while I pointed out he has lied before

Because none of them have said Clinton ever did anything inappropriate with them; in fact, one of the victims (Davies) in the pictures that some deplorables are using to try to smear Clinton has said that Clinton was a "perfect gentleman" when she met him during a humanitarian trip to Africa to help with AIDS awareness.

It has nothing to do what Bill Clinton is saying. The facts of the photo are that it was at a public pool at a hotel while Clinton was at a conference/fundraising tour. Epstein was not there.

Not Epstein's pool or hot tub. Fact.

None of this is true.

before judging what Clinton may or may not have done.

Not Epsteins pool.

Not everyone in the photos are pedophiles, and survivors have pointedly said Bill Clinton didn't do anything with them.

None of the photos show anything sketchy of him.

Epstein worked hard to seem legit and as a wealthy person familiar with financial matters he was often in the company of important people who knew nothing at the time of his crimes.

influence peddling. Epstein got credibility by pulling in famous people, pretending to be interested in supporting their foundations and charity work, creating opportunity and networking for himself and his guests.

Some wanted his perverse activities, while others might have been lured in just enough to be subject to blackmail based on ‘appearance of impropriety’.

So photos of Clinton prove nothing. If he was participating with underage girls, disclose it and prosecute. The DOJ would have shown it if they had anything actually incriminating. Epstein’s victim Chauntae Davies was 22 years old, and she was photographed — fully clothed — massaging the shoulders of a fully clothed Bill Clinton; she described him as ‘a perfect gentleman’.

Bill Clinton is a lot of things to a lot of people, but he's never been that kind of dumb. He just called trumps bluff, and there will be a screaming fit in the WH today, and I'm here for it.
Played like a master...Bill knows they have NOTHING on him.

That's scary.

Some documents other parties will have, bit not all.

Pool and hot tub is in Brunei Darussalm Boreno Souteast Asia. Fact.

... to make Clinton seem like the abuser will fail. Researching the "scandalous" photos reveals they are presented falsely. The one with Diana Ross has her kids "redacted". It's NOT even an Epstein photo! Plus, the singer has always had tight caregivers - not even Michael Jackson would get near her kids. And, the "hot tub" photo isn't an Epstein photo, either... distract, distract, distract...

can be made suspicious by simply 'redacting' the face of a person in it.

Those black blobs work both ways.
Protect the guilty and implicate the innocent.

where he bleeps out certain words but our brains automatically fill in the blanks.....

relations with a minor. Bill Clinton must be confident he is in the clear or he wouldn't want
the files released.

They say he didn't do anything to any of them.

Now, none of the public victims have accused Trump of any wrongdoing but quite a few met him and several have said they felt uncomfortable when they were in the presence of Trump and Epstein at the same time.

When she went to the police they ignored and ridiculed her and we know Florida gave Epstein a sweetheart deal

The rich men she named harassed her to the point she recanted but I choose to believe the victims

There’s a guardian article from jan 8, 2024 that lays things out but he has been accused

She said she was mistaken.

Very interesting you left that part of.

As I said, Bill Clinton is not implicated. I am right.

if you're innocent, which you clearly are not.
Bill Clinton, although far from perfect knows he's not guilty of the crimes you are being accused of and therefore demands full disclosure of all evidence. Only the actual guilty parties would object to it's release.

GUILTY! GUILTY! GUILTY!

And worse for those who want the narrative to be about anyone else.

but I still like to see the lies that they promulgate.

How about down votes?

Release the evidence. All of it. Clinton was not Epstein's best buddy.

Kick and Rec.

I was waiting on Clinton and his team to step up. They should sue Trump's DOJ!

Lawrence asked the question "With the world now wondering about the 10 co-conspirators who Jeffrey #Epstein referred to in some of the #EpsteinFiles released today, it is worth considering...what would someone who is mentioned in the #Epstein files do, if he or she believes that he or she is totally innocent of any wrongdoing with Jeffrey Epstein?"

Former President Bill Clinton's office (told DOJ to release everything)...and there it is, that's the model for how you handle the situation if...you believe you did nothing wrong...Donald Trump has never demanded that

@lawrenceodonnell.bsky.social: Trump was flying with Epstein around the time FBI got its first tip about Epstein youtu.be/mhPvffgGBbc?...

— The Last Word with Lawrence O'Donnell (@lastwordmsnow.bsky.social) 2025-12-24T04:44:38.269Z