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sheshe2

(95,890 posts)
Mon Dec 22, 2025, 04:39 PM Dec 22

Remember Edward R. Murrow?

‪Robert Reich‬
‪@rbreich.bsky.social‬

I’m old enough to remember when CBS News would never have surrendered to a demagogic president or any other politician. Remember Edward R. Murrow?


I’m old enough to remember when CBS News would never have surrendered to a demagogic president or any other politician. Remember Edward R. Murrow?

Robert Reich (@rbreich.bsky.social) 2025-12-22T18:01:10.799001Z
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Remember Edward R. Murrow? (Original Post) sheshe2 Dec 22 OP
i was thinking the exact same think earlier Stargleamer Dec 22 #1
I sure do Jilly_in_VA Dec 22 #2
You had great parents, Jilly. sheshe2 Dec 22 #3
I sure do. LoisB Dec 22 #4
Goodnight and Good Luck .. 2005 movie ... doublethink Dec 22 #5
F**k George Clooney! SocialDemocrat61 Dec 22 #8
Different ownership and different values. Frasier Balzov Dec 22 #6
If Bari Weiss ran CBS News in 1940 SocialDemocrat61 Dec 22 #7
We Fought Against the Nazis then... Cha Dec 22 #9
You are right, Cha. sheshe2 Dec 22 #10
Yes, Everyone that supports the Neo Nazi Take Over Cha Dec 22 #12
He may have Cirsium Dec 22 #11

Stargleamer

(2,611 posts)
1. i was thinking the exact same think earlier
Mon Dec 22, 2025, 04:54 PM
Dec 22

how the network of Murrow and Cronkite has become so crappy.

Jilly_in_VA

(13,812 posts)
2. I sure do
Mon Dec 22, 2025, 04:57 PM
Dec 22

He was on right before dinner time at our house. When we kids were old enough, we were supposed to listen to him because we knew we might be asked questions about what he talked about that evening during dinner. Our parents, particularly our dad, wanted to be sure that we knew what was going on in the world. We sort of followed that tradition with our kids, having the TV news on either before or during dinner, usually Walter Cronkite/Dan Rather. I knew early on that at least the middle one was paying attention when I was hearing his prayers one night around Christmas and he prayed for "the kids in Poland to have a nice Christmas". (This was 1981, I think, and times were really tough there.)

doublethink

(7,301 posts)
5. Goodnight and Good Luck .. 2005 movie ...
Mon Dec 22, 2025, 06:07 PM
Dec 22

Produced by George Clooney ... Epic. Worth the watch, rewatching on DVD now that it's gonna rain in Cali the next couple days. All the best and Merry Christmas!

SocialDemocrat61

(6,842 posts)
8. F**k George Clooney!
Mon Dec 22, 2025, 06:45 PM
Dec 22

If he had any character, he’d move back here from Italy and endure the president that he helped to elect.

Frasier Balzov

(4,869 posts)
6. Different ownership and different values.
Mon Dec 22, 2025, 06:11 PM
Dec 22

Murrow could just as easily have been fired by Bill Paley.

Fred Friendly would have quit in protest, but today's Ellison would say so what.

SocialDemocrat61

(6,842 posts)
7. If Bari Weiss ran CBS News in 1940
Mon Dec 22, 2025, 06:12 PM
Dec 22

she would have fired Murrow and sent Charles Lindbergh to do a softball interview with Hitler.

Cha

(316,772 posts)
9. We Fought Against the Nazis then...
Mon Dec 22, 2025, 07:19 PM
Dec 22

and Now the Neo Nazis have Taken Over America's Government.

For Now..

sheshe2

(95,890 posts)
10. You are right, Cha.
Mon Dec 22, 2025, 07:36 PM
Dec 22

You give me some hope for your additional comment.

For Now..


I would love to see this regime and everyone that supports them teleported back in time to Nazi Germany with a role reversal and them as the persecuted. If not that, send them all to Cecot to spend the rest of their lives.

Cha

(316,772 posts)
12. Yes, Everyone that supports the Neo Nazi Take Over
Mon Dec 22, 2025, 09:03 PM
Dec 22

which includes the media brass that's selling America down the drain to Russia.

At least they know that's the Direction... Our job as Patriots is to Stop them.

Miracles happen. 💖

Cirsium

(3,363 posts)
11. He may have
Mon Dec 22, 2025, 07:45 PM
Dec 22

Murrow may have caved to political pressure.

At the threshold of the McCarthy era, William L. Shirer was abruptly fired from his highly rated CBS radio broadcast by the sponsor, a shaving-cream manufacturer, who pronounced him to be “too liberal.” To Shirer’s shock and grief, the decision was endorsed by CBS as well as Shirer’s boss and former comrade-in-arms as a war correspondent in World War II, Edward R. Murrow. The firing “destroyed my career in broadcasting,” Shirer writes, “and almost destroyed me.”

The blacklisting of Bill Shirer--and his rebirth as a popular historian and the author of “Rise and Fall of the Third Reich”--is at the heart of “A Native’s Return,” the third volume of Shirer’s memoirs, “20th Century Journey.” Now in his mid-80s, Shirer’s valedictory is bittersweet, and nothing captures his sense of disappointment in the downward spiral of history more poignantly than the Murrow incident.

Shirer excoriates the executives of the American media--including the networks, the advertising agencies, the sponsoring corporations--for surrendering to McCarthyism and making it work. “They were the shabby cowards,” he writes. “If just one of them had shown a little courage and decency and said he was going to hire people on their merits and not on whether they were in Red Channels , the blacklists would have faded away. But none dared. Not one.”

Murrow is not the only man whom Shirer justifiably sees as a betrayer. Shirer recalls that his own attorney, Morris Ernst, “one of the foremost champions of civil liberties in the country,” refused to file a libel action on Shirer’s behalf against “Red Channels.” (“I see no valid basis,” Ernst advised, “for letting you spend your money on a libel suit.”) Much later, as Shirer explains, it was revealed that Ernst had been a secret but fawning admirer of J. Edgar Hoover who shared private correspondence--and actually screened prospective cases and clients--with the FBI.

https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1990-01-17-vw-17-story.html
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