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Chasstev365

(7,120 posts) Mon Dec 22, 2025, 05:39 PM Dec 22

Trump's new class of battleships should be called the "Golden Fleece", not Fleet.

Are Trump companies going to get the contracts to build them?

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Trump's new class of battleships should be called the "Golden Fleece", not Fleet. (Original Post) Chasstev365 Dec 22 OP

"Fleet" might actually be OK, since it's a kind of enema. Ocelot II Dec 22 #1

Battleships were fazed out The Wizard Dec 22 #2

It's amazing, huh? They're now primarily for ship to shore bombardment. TheBlackAdder Dec 22 #5

The cost will be paid from Secret Service golf cart fees Emile Dec 22 #3

Of course. He gets a piece of all the govt contracts. Irish_Dem Dec 22 #4

Arguably, the Battleship became obsolete by the out of date British Swordfish Biplanes launched from aircraft carriers Chasstev365 Dec 22 #6

A nice ferryboat for Kash Patel's new luxory armored BMWs. jeffreyi Dec 22 #7

New battleships named after Trump are 'bomb magnets' -- and will never sail: expert LetMyPeopleVote Dec 26 #8

Top secret video of Trump's new fleet. Just released on Signal app. LetMyPeopleVote Dec 28 #9

Apropos of "Golden Fleece", it's a shame that Senator Proxmire... keep_left Dec 28 #10

USS Pedophile LetMyPeopleVote Dec 29 #11

Ocelot II

(129,076 posts)

1. "Fleet" might actually be OK, since it's a kind of enema.

Reply to Chasstev365 (Original post)

Mon Dec 22, 2025, 05:41 PM

Dec 22

The Wizard

(13,586 posts)

2. Battleships were fazed out

Reply to Chasstev365 (Original post)

Mon Dec 22, 2025, 05:41 PM

Dec 22

after the first Gulf War.

TheBlackAdder

(29,981 posts)

5. It's amazing, huh? They're now primarily for ship to shore bombardment.

Reply to The Wizard (Reply #2)

Mon Dec 22, 2025, 06:01 PM

Dec 22

I think the last battleship to sink in a gun battle was on October 24th, 1944 when the US sunk Japanese battleship Yamashiro.

Emile

(40,616 posts)

3. The cost will be paid from Secret Service golf cart fees

Reply to Chasstev365 (Original post)

Mon Dec 22, 2025, 05:42 PM

Dec 22

at Trump's golf courses?

Irish_Dem

(79,809 posts)

4. Of course. He gets a piece of all the govt contracts.

Reply to Chasstev365 (Original post)

Mon Dec 22, 2025, 05:45 PM

Dec 22

The most corrupt govt money can buy.

Chasstev365

(7,120 posts)

6. Arguably, the Battleship became obsolete by the out of date British Swordfish Biplanes launched from aircraft carriers

Reply to Chasstev365 (Original post)

Mon Dec 22, 2025, 06:09 PM

Dec 22

The Swordfish demolished the Italian fleet at Taranto in 1940 and then hit the German battle ship The Bismarck in May 1941 which, crippled it, allowing the British Royal Navy to sink it.

Battleships became obsolete and the aircraft carrier with planes became the main way to attack.

Of course, I'm sure Trump has read all about it.

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jeffreyi

(2,521 posts)

7. A nice ferryboat for Kash Patel's new luxory armored BMWs.

Reply to Chasstev365 (Original post)

Mon Dec 22, 2025, 07:07 PM

Dec 22

Somebody oughta send them a link to one of the multitudinous free documentaries out there that describe WWII, and how battleships became obsolete very quickly. In 1941.

LetMyPeopleVote

(174,961 posts)

8. New battleships named after Trump are 'bomb magnets' -- and will never sail: expert

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Fri Dec 26, 2025, 06:49 PM

Dec 26

This battleship makes no sense and will never be built

New battleships named after Trump are 'bomb magnets' â€” and will never sail: expert

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Donald Trump's much-hyped new battleship fleet, named after himself, "will never sail," a group of experts told CNBC in a new report, owing to the outdated design that will make them a "bomb magnet" in a real conflict.

Earlier this week, the president unveiled a new "Trump-class" of US Navy battleships, which he touted as "some of the most lethal surface warfare ships" and "the fastest, the biggest, and by far, 100 times more powerful than any battleship ever built." Despite his enthusiasm from Trump about maintaining "American military supremacy," CNBC on Friday noted the "glaring problem" putting them at odds with reality: "battleships have been obsolete for decades."

"The last was built more than 80 years ago, and the U.S. Navy retired the last Iowa-class ships nearly 30 years ago," CNBC explained. "Once symbols of naval might with their massive guns, battleships have long since been eclipsed by aircraft carriers and modern destroyers armed with long-range missiles."

The outlet conceded that Trump's labeling of these new ships with the outdated model name could be a "misnomer," and the actual ships might be more in line with modern sensibilities. Speaking to several experts about the ships, however, CNBC found that the "Trump-class" fleet is still out of step with naval realities, with Mark Cancian, a senior adviser at the Center for Strategic and International Studies, arguing that they "would take too long to design, cost far too much and run counter to the Navy’s current strategy of distributed firepower."

"A future administration will cancel the program before the first ship hits the water," Cancian said, also adding that "there is little need for said discussion because this ship will never sail."