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babylonsister

(172,629 posts)
Wed Dec 24, 2025, 09:57 AM Dec 24

Trump's New Battleship Will Never Sail



https://politicalwire.com/2025/12/24/trumps-new-battleship-will-never-sail/


Trump’s New Battleship Will Never Sail
December 24, 2025 at 9:49 am EST By Taegan Goddard


Mark Cancian: “On December 22, President Trump announced a new class of ‘battleships’ that will be 100 times more powerful than previous battleships and larger than any other surface combatant on the oceans. The ship’s purported characteristics are so extraordinary that the announcement will surely spark immense discussion.”

“However, there is little need for said discussion because this ship will never sail. It will take years to design, cost $9 billion each to build, and contravene the Navy’s new concept of operations, which envisions distributed firepower. A future administration will cancel the program before the first ship hits the water.
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dutch777

(4,944 posts)
7. Build more carriers if anything. Or 4 Aegis class cruisers for same price. Agree, we'll never see one Trump class.
Wed Dec 24, 2025, 10:57 AM
Dec 24

Real thing the Navy needs to work on is surface ships that can reload their missile batteries quickly while at sea. Almost all present vertical launch missile systems, the backbone of anti ballistic missile and anti air protection for the fleet have to return to port to be reloaded. China especially has taken note and has built enough missiles and rockets to simply overload the defense capacity of the fleet. Sure they have to fire 500 units in carefully timed coordination to have maybe 50 get thru but that will be devastating to the US and allies in ships and sailors. And yes, US long range bombers will exact a high price in return but the US will see losses that will take years to replace and stagger the US public. And assuming the war continues, China's production capacity to replace far exceeds the US and allies. One can expect that along with attacking surface combatants, in an all out war, China will eventually strike South Korean and Japanese military production facilities as they are more capable in the near term than anything the US has.

Volaris

(11,453 posts)
8. Lets sink the fucker off mar a lago as a free tourist reef,
Wed Dec 24, 2025, 11:23 AM
Dec 24

He will HATE seeing the plebes from his patio, wrecking his view.

LetMyPeopleVote

(176,048 posts)
10. Here are some previews of trump's new "battleship"
Thu Dec 25, 2025, 04:34 PM
Dec 25

The internet has been hard at work coming up with designs for trump's new battleships



















LetMyPeopleVote

(176,048 posts)
11. A friend posted this on facebook
Fri Dec 26, 2025, 10:19 AM
Dec 26

This is from a retired naval officer

The following was posted by Gary Clamurro, a retired Navy captain who I have known for over 40 years:

The Administration has announced the launch of a new class of 'old' naval vessels: the Trump Class Battleship. Is this a wise development for projecting US Naval power?

Disclaimer: Y'all will recall that my first assignment in the USN was on a ballistic missile submarine where stealth and silence meant survival at sea.

Big beautiful 'Gold' battleships are a sea animal whose time has passed. From the time of Teddy Roosevelt's Great White Fleet (white because they were painted white, not for any other reason), nearly 120 years ago, the battleship was meant to be a visible projection of national power. Naval Air power at the end of WW II ended the era of the battleship. They are indeed big and visible and easily targeted on the 21st Century battle space at sea. Not good. We have tactical strategies in place to keep our large aircraft carriers out of harms way, and to mitigate the effectiveness of our adversaries' hypersonic missiles. The USN would need to do the same for each battleship.

The best fleet, the most deadly fleet, is the one that you cannot see, the one you cannot track, the one you cannot hear. The one that you cannot know when it is just off your coast and ready to launch hundreds of cruise, guided and ballistic missiles. Of course, every once and a while you need to demonstrate the deadly power of such weapons platforms: ask the Iranians about the effectiveness of 30 or 40 submarine launched cruise missiles.

And you don't have to sink a battleship (or any ship, for that matter) to take it out of commission. A well positioned Electro Magnetic Pulse near a vessel would destroy its electronics capabilities and render the ship useless for combat.

In a war at sea between or among nations with such EMP capabilities, size doesn't matter. There will be ship casualties. In my thinking it is better to have more vessels (especially submarines) than a few Big Beautiful Battleships.

Just saying.

LetMyPeopleVote

(176,048 posts)
13. New battleships named after Trump are 'bomb magnets' -- and will never sail: expert
Fri Dec 26, 2025, 06:45 PM
Dec 26

This battleship makes no sense and will never be built

New battleships named after Trump are 'bomb magnets' — and will never sail: expert

www.rawstory.com/alternet-pos...

(@bobshaw-28.bsky.social) 2025-12-26T21:50:29.523Z

https://www.rawstory.com/alternet-posts/trump-battleship/

Donald Trump's much-hyped new battleship fleet, named after himself, "will never sail," a group of experts told CNBC in a new report, owing to the outdated design that will make them a "bomb magnet" in a real conflict.

Earlier this week, the president unveiled a new "Trump-class" of US Navy battleships, which he touted as "some of the most lethal surface warfare ships" and "the fastest, the biggest, and by far, 100 times more powerful than any battleship ever built." Despite his enthusiasm from Trump about maintaining "American military supremacy," CNBC on Friday noted the "glaring problem" putting them at odds with reality: "battleships have been obsolete for decades."

"The last was built more than 80 years ago, and the U.S. Navy retired the last Iowa-class ships nearly 30 years ago," CNBC explained. "Once symbols of naval might with their massive guns, battleships have long since been eclipsed by aircraft carriers and modern destroyers armed with long-range missiles."

The outlet conceded that Trump's labeling of these new ships with the outdated model name could be a "misnomer," and the actual ships might be more in line with modern sensibilities. Speaking to several experts about the ships, however, CNBC found that the "Trump-class" fleet is still out of step with naval realities, with Mark Cancian, a senior adviser at the Center for Strategic and International Studies, arguing that they "would take too long to design, cost far too much and run counter to the Navy’s current strategy of distributed firepower."

"A future administration will cancel the program before the first ship hits the water," Cancian said, also adding that "there is little need for said discussion because this ship will never sail."
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