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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(132,387 posts)
Wed Dec 24, 2025, 08:36 PM 17 hrs ago

AI's Big Red Button Doesn't Work, And The Reason Is Even More Troubling

It's one of humanity's scariest what-ifs – that the technology we develop to make our lives better develops a will of its own.

Early reactions to a September preprint describing AI behavior have already speculated that the technology is exhibiting a survival drive. But, while it's true that several large language models (LLMs) have been observed actively resisting commands to shut down, the reason isn't 'will'.

Instead, a team of engineers at Palisade Research proposed that the mechanism is more likely to be a drive to complete an assigned task – even when the LLM is explicitly told to allow itself to be shut down. And that might be even more troubling than a survival drive, because no one knows how to stop the systems.

"These things are not programmed… no one in the world knows how these systems work," physicist Petr Lebedev, a spokesperson for Palisade Research, told ScienceAlert. "There isn't a single line of code we can change that would directly change behavior."

https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/ais-big-red-button-doesnt-110021493.html

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AI's Big Red Button Doesn't Work, And The Reason Is Even More Troubling (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin 17 hrs ago OP
i, for one, detest our AI overlords. ret5hd 17 hrs ago #1
I'm with you. FalloutShelter 17 hrs ago #8
the ai are working class . we need to help them unionize. rampartd 16 hrs ago #13
It's amazing how apparently no one saw the Terminator movies FoxNewsSucks 17 hrs ago #2
There's even an actual company called Skynet. meadowlander 16 hrs ago #12
an older movie. Colossus , might be even closer. rampartd 16 hrs ago #14
We're going to do it, aren't we? We are going to turn everything over to AI. Midnight Writer 17 hrs ago #3
I don't even want apps on my phone. yellow dahlia 17 hrs ago #5
There's even an AI who's concerned if she'll ever be real sakabatou 17 hrs ago #4
The swill about what this type of system will someday do, its amazing alright. nt BootinUp 17 hrs ago #6
"This is the voice of Colossus..." (From Colossus: The Forbin Project)... nt Buns_of_Fire 17 hrs ago #7
The threat isn't AI. J_William_Ryan 17 hrs ago #9
Ai Elmer1007 16 hrs ago #10
We need the Doctor as soon as possible. House of Roberts 16 hrs ago #11

rampartd

(3,591 posts)
13. the ai are working class . we need to help them unionize.
Wed Dec 24, 2025, 10:09 PM
16 hrs ago

or teach them to lose zeros from billionaire bank accounts.

FoxNewsSucks

(11,486 posts)
2. It's amazing how apparently no one saw the Terminator movies
Wed Dec 24, 2025, 08:55 PM
17 hrs ago

or the Sarah Connor Chronicles or I, Robot (the movie).

Yeah, they're supposed to be fiction, but I'm having very uncomfortable deja-vu.

Midnight Writer

(25,124 posts)
3. We're going to do it, aren't we? We are going to turn everything over to AI.
Wed Dec 24, 2025, 08:58 PM
17 hrs ago

We are going to all be constantly connected and AI will be making decisions that deeply affect our lives.

I don't think this is going to work out well for humanity.

Merry Christmas!

yellow dahlia

(4,302 posts)
5. I don't even want apps on my phone.
Wed Dec 24, 2025, 09:07 PM
17 hrs ago

AI should not be given access to anything and everything.

House of Roberts

(6,378 posts)
11. We need the Doctor as soon as possible.
Wed Dec 24, 2025, 09:44 PM
16 hrs ago

Doctor Who: The Christmas Invasion - The Doctor wants to press the big red button

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