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JD Vance is living in an alternate Reality (Original Post) Coldwater Dec 26 OP
The republican party are void of reality......................... Lovie777 Dec 26 #1
Psychopaths like to claim victim status to justify their crimes. Irish_Dem Dec 26 #2
I am so tired of hearing them glorify that weirdo pissant podcaster. Diamond_Dog Dec 26 #3
I never heard of him until he was killed Grim Chieftain Dec 26 #4
Same! Delarage Dec 26 #5
I had kinda sorta heard of him, or least heard his name, before he died. ShazzieB Dec 26 #14
A college dropout with a website, a fat motormouth, a well-developed Gish Gallop and a shitty attitude . . . hatrack Dec 26 #6
He did look a lot like Gorn!! madinmaryland Dec 26 #16
As am I and so many others Hey Joe Dec 26 #10
So, apparently, people who are not in control of the White House, the Senate, the House of... Ol Janx Spirit Dec 26 #7
The boys in that wacked-out religious family where the shooter was from..... wolfie001 Dec 26 #8
From what I know about Mormon purity culture, this doesn't shock me in the least. ShazzieB Dec 26 #12
Sorry if I come across as over-the-top but our enemies (rePUKES) are so hateful mockery is one of our few weapons wolfie001 Dec 26 #15
I appreciate this response! ShazzieB Dec 27 #18
...... wolfie001 Dec 27 #19
Don't let the facts get in the way of your narrative, JD. yellow dahlia Dec 26 #9
The entire national legacy news and conservative talk show propaganda system is working hard to sell the lie that the ShazamIam Dec 26 #11
K&R spanone Dec 26 #13
Like Kirk, Vance dreams of B.See Dec 26 #17

Delarage

(2,539 posts)
5. Same!
Fri Dec 26, 2025, 10:19 AM
Dec 26

When I heard "Charlie Kirk was murdered!" I assumed immediately he was a Democrat somewhere. Because that's what usually happens. Did not have to mourn this one, though!

ShazzieB

(22,227 posts)
14. I had kinda sorta heard of him, or least heard his name, before he died.
Fri Dec 26, 2025, 05:28 PM
Dec 26

But I couldn't have told you who he was or anything about his beliefs or activities prior to the shooting.

hatrack

(64,273 posts)
6. A college dropout with a website, a fat motormouth, a well-developed Gish Gallop and a shitty attitude . . .
Fri Dec 26, 2025, 10:21 AM
Dec 26

And now he's St. Francis of Assisi, George Washington and Aragorn son of Arathorn all squished together into one greasy beatified sausage skin.

Hey Joe

(416 posts)
10. As am I and so many others
Fri Dec 26, 2025, 12:48 PM
Dec 26

Gaslighting, bullshitting , gishgalloping, and lying while talking down to those who questioned him were his only talents.
The right wants to elevate him to sainthood for it.

Ol Janx Spirit

(737 posts)
7. So, apparently, people who are not in control of the White House, the Senate, the House of...
Fri Dec 26, 2025, 10:26 AM
Dec 26

...Representatives, or the Supreme Court, are actually in charge of the country?

Or, as pointed out by Lakota Man, is he talking about people in his own party?

I'm confused....

So is he....

wolfie001

(7,115 posts)
8. The boys in that wacked-out religious family where the shooter was from.....
Fri Dec 26, 2025, 10:47 AM
Dec 26

....wore "I'm Proud To Be A Virgin" t-shirts. Fucking pathetic jack-offs if you ask me.

"Virginity Rocks!" How stupid and pathetic
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ShazzieB

(22,227 posts)
12. From what I know about Mormon purity culture, this doesn't shock me in the least.
Fri Dec 26, 2025, 05:24 PM
Dec 26

The LDS Church is obsessed with sexual purity, teaching that "sexual sin," defined as the "illicit sexual relations of men and women," is the worst sin of all, next to murder. That includes any sex outside marriage between a man and a woman: adultery, fornication, and (of course) any sexual activity between people of the same sex.

It's almost kind of refreshing to see boys wearing shirts like that, because Morman purity culture is so often laser focused on women and girls. That kind of preoccupation with policing people's personal lives is, of course, not healthy for anyone, but Mormon girls as young as 12 are particular targets, being frequently admonished to dress modestly, lest showing "too much skin" (whatever that means) should tempt males to sin.

Mormon kids who are LGBTQ+ get the worst of it, because their religion strictly forbids both sex outside of marriage and marriage between people of the same sex. They are left to choose between leaving the faith they were rraised in or living a life of celibacy.

I'm sorry if I sound like I'm dunking on Mormons. I'm not opposed to the LDS Church or its followers, per se. What I'm opposed to is the kind of strict and punitive purity culture that causes kids to feel guilty about every sexual urge they may feel and/or arouse in anyone else, and the purity culture of the LDS Church is particularly strict and punitive in that respect, from what I know. In my opinion, kids who are raised in a culture like that are more to be pitied than derided as "stupid and pathetic." They've been brainwashed since childhood. That is NOT their fault.

wolfie001

(7,115 posts)
15. Sorry if I come across as over-the-top but our enemies (rePUKES) are so hateful mockery is one of our few weapons
Fri Dec 26, 2025, 06:36 PM
Dec 26

And yes, I agree with your whole statement. Measured and logically coherent.

ShazzieB

(22,227 posts)
18. I appreciate this response!
Sat Dec 27, 2025, 12:39 AM
Dec 27

Confession: you did come across a *little" over the top, but I understood your meaning. Mocking Republican excesses is a popular activity into around here, and I consider it to be needed stress relief for the most part, so I get where you're coming from.

I had a different kind of reaction to this because I happened to have seen some videos about Mormon purity culture recently that made me aware of how extreme it is. (I also have some definite ideas about how that all relates to how a Mormon boy in a relationship with a trans person could have felt driven to kill someone like Charlie Kirk, but I won't get into that right now!)

Glad we are on the same wavelength about this!

ShazamIam

(3,039 posts)
11. The entire national legacy news and conservative talk show propaganda system is working hard to sell the lie that the
Fri Dec 26, 2025, 03:02 PM
Dec 26

Charlie Kirks deatj was caised by , liberal, lefty Democratic. Personally I had never heard of Chirlie Kirk until he was murdered.

B.See

(7,817 posts)
17. Like Kirk, Vance dreams of
Fri Dec 26, 2025, 07:23 PM
Dec 26

some alternate reality haven where "those people" don't exist except at their benevolent behest (hence the missus), where white is always right, and where they needn't be apologetic about believing it.

Someone just like THEM took out Kirk. But that won't stop em from believing it was someone... something, else.

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