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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(132,941 posts)
Fri Dec 26, 2025, 07:38 PM Dec 26

Days Before He Died by Suicide, Jeffrey Epstein Gave Specific Reason for Why He Would Never Take His Own Life

Days before Jeffrey Epstein died by suicide in 2019, the sex offender claimed he would never take his own life because, he said, suicide is forbidden in his Jewish faith.

In the Department of Justice’s latest release of files related to its Epstein investigation, prison notes from his time at the Metropolitan Correctional Center in New York City — where he was held while awaiting trial on federal sex trafficking charges — offer a closer look at his mental state.

The notes mentioned a possible suicide attempt on July 23, 2019. According to the notes, Epstein told an interviewers that "he could not remember what happened" on the day in question "because of his " 'sleep apnea.'"

During a psychological observation from July 26, 2019, it was written that Epstein "does not like pain and never attempt (sic) to harm himself."

https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/days-died-suicide-jeffrey-epstein-205112568.html

Make of it what you will.

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Days Before He Died by Suicide, Jeffrey Epstein Gave Specific Reason for Why He Would Never Take His Own Life (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Dec 26 OP
So according to Eps, his faith found it OK to rape and molest girls? fierywoman Dec 26 #1
Humans are complected... no surprise here NotHardly Dec 26 #2
Sure, but it's hard to claim his faith is so deep and true that he'd never commit suicide EdmondDantes_ Dec 26 #7
The "sin" of suicide can affect marriage-abilty of Ilsa Dec 26 #12
Yeah... I'm not buying this. yardwork Dec 27 #16
Where did that psych observer go to school? soldierant Dec 26 #3
that was just ONE observation (and more likely just a 'statement' taken down as attributed .. ) stopdiggin Dec 26 #9
He didn't kill himself blue blues Dec 26 #4
we know the answer to your question RainCaster Dec 26 #5
Yup. Not surprised. My money is on murder. Joinfortmill Dec 26 #6
I don't think liking or disliking pain is the driving force behind suicide, or the limiting factor. ToxMarz Dec 26 #8
you're correct. and also not the entirety (or even close to it) of this 'assessment' stopdiggin Dec 26 #10
I wouldn't even remotely consider any "faith" based reasoning to figure out whether he killed himself or not Takket Dec 26 #11
A few people I knew who attempted suicide did it because they couldn't handle the pain anymore Kaleva Dec 27 #13
My Dad came very close to committing suicide. Jedi Guy Dec 27 #14
I've always thought he was knocked off. The missing few minutes of security video is too convenient. Vinca Dec 27 #15
Or whatever he couldn't remember because of "sleep apnea" recurred. Igel Dec 27 #18
His brother swears he was murdered. Trump Emile Dec 27 #17

EdmondDantes_

(1,393 posts)
7. Sure, but it's hard to claim his faith is so deep and true that he'd never commit suicide
Fri Dec 26, 2025, 10:36 PM
Dec 26

Some people who go on to commit suicide will make efforts to hide what they are about to do to make sure they get to go through with it. Obviously others display signs they are going, but the path isn't the same for everyone.

Ilsa

(63,855 posts)
12. The "sin" of suicide can affect marriage-abilty of
Fri Dec 26, 2025, 11:35 PM
Dec 26

others in the family, depending on branch of Judaism, I've heard. I wonder if it affects business arrangements of close family?

yardwork

(68,983 posts)
16. Yeah... I'm not buying this.
Sat Dec 27, 2025, 10:02 AM
Dec 27

I don't know whether Epstein killed himself or not, but I can certainly imagine that somebody like Epstein might find suicide preferable to spending the rest of his life in prison.

I think it's very possible he bribed guards to let him get away with it.

soldierant

(9,287 posts)
3. Where did that psych observer go to school?
Fri Dec 26, 2025, 09:36 PM
Dec 26

Not liking pain is not a reason not to suixi3e. Many people suicide in order to STOP the mental and emotional pain they haven't been able to deal with any other way.

The ones who will never suicide are the ones who wouldn't dream of depriving the rest of the world of their wonderful presence.

stopdiggin

(15,042 posts)
9. that was just ONE observation (and more likely just a 'statement' taken down as attributed .. )
Fri Dec 26, 2025, 10:46 PM
Dec 26

within an entire interview/assessment.
And it is highly unlikely that any medical professional would (or indeed did) base an assessment on such tissue thin ...

I think you impute more here than is really there ...

blue blues

(22 posts)
4. He didn't kill himself
Fri Dec 26, 2025, 10:04 PM
Dec 26

He thought he was getting out of jail. With his wealth, power and friends.
I'm just saying O.J. got off
The real question is who ordered the killing?

ToxMarz

(2,761 posts)
8. I don't think liking or disliking pain is the driving force behind suicide, or the limiting factor.
Fri Dec 26, 2025, 10:37 PM
Dec 26

stopdiggin

(15,042 posts)
10. you're correct. and also not the entirety (or even close to it) of this 'assessment'
Fri Dec 26, 2025, 11:04 PM
Dec 26

no mental health professional is gong to be taken in by such (facile) statements.

Takket

(23,487 posts)
11. I wouldn't even remotely consider any "faith" based reasoning to figure out whether he killed himself or not
Fri Dec 26, 2025, 11:06 PM
Dec 26

nothing that guy ever did had anything to do with "faith."

Kaleva

(40,208 posts)
13. A few people I knew who attempted suicide did it because they couldn't handle the pain anymore
Sat Dec 27, 2025, 12:59 AM
Dec 27

The mental anguish was just too much to bear.

Jedi Guy

(3,424 posts)
14. My Dad came very close to committing suicide.
Sat Dec 27, 2025, 05:24 AM
Dec 27

As in, seconds away from pulling the trigger. He was in a very dark place due to a health condition, which ultimately did kill him. My family is very, very religious. So while he did have a moment of clarity and stop, highly religious people commit suicide, too.

I suspect the only thing that stopped him was the thought of what it would do to my Mom. Losing him was awful enough and she'll always bear that wound, as will I. Losing him to suicide would have been infinitely, horrifically worse. I'm very thankful he didn't go through with it.

Vinca

(53,368 posts)
15. I've always thought he was knocked off. The missing few minutes of security video is too convenient.
Sat Dec 27, 2025, 07:57 AM
Dec 27

One of the fat cat perpetrators probably greased the palm of a guard to suddenly "go on break" and then someone strung up Epstein.

Igel

(37,390 posts)
18. Or whatever he couldn't remember because of "sleep apnea" recurred.
Sat Dec 27, 2025, 10:52 AM
Dec 27

Whatever not remembering because he kept waking up because of breathing difficulties has to do with it.

You know, if you're contemplating suicide or at least have it as an open question and aren't quietly trying to find a way out, the last thing you do is tell a psychologist when you're in jail, "You know, doc, I'm thinking of suicide. Even tried it once." Because the next thing you know, not only are you subject to unlimited counseling but you're also deprived of anything that might actually let you do what you've kept open as a possibility.

In other words it's largely a meaningless answer--you'd expect the same reaction if the claim were true or if the claim were false. "Are you thinking of suicide" will, from anybody seriously pondering the act, get the response, "No!"

And that's not considering that Epstein was an unreliable narrator of his own story.

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