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Henry203

(845 posts) Tue Dec 30, 2025, 03:03 PM 2 hrs ago

Healthcare- single payer- how do we get there?

How do we get to single payer if 80% of the people are getting subsidies from employers or if they work for the government they are getting subsidies.
An example of that is a family of four might pay $500-$1000 with a $2,000 deductible.
My last year paying for my wife’s bronze plan was $832 per month with a $7,000 deductible.
My friend has his own business and he is paying $24,000 per year with a $7,000 deductible.
Why would people ever support single payer if they get their insurance through their employer?
Any ideas how we get to single payer?

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Healthcare- single payer- how do we get there? (Original Post) Henry203 2 hrs ago OP

I can tell you how we don't get there. BannonsLiver 2 hrs ago #1

Not many employers pay the full premiums leftstreet 2 hrs ago #2

They wouldn't have employees trapped because of healthcare Freddie 18 min ago #7

Excellent point. anciano 4 min ago #8

I can tell you canetoad 2 hrs ago #3

A congress and president that aren't useless and beholden to the industry. Job one flvegan 2 hrs ago #4

Highly unlikely due to the various industries, anciano 1 hr ago #5

Get rid of rethuglicans Bayard 27 min ago #6

BannonsLiver

(20,218 posts)

1. I can tell you how we don't get there.

Reply to Henry203 (Original post)

Tue Dec 30, 2025, 03:14 PM

2 hrs ago

And that’s by having a nimby attitude when it comes to reform.

leftstreet

(38,740 posts)

2. Not many employers pay the full premiums

Reply to Henry203 (Original post)

Tue Dec 30, 2025, 03:22 PM

2 hrs ago

Employees shoulder increasing premium contibutions from their paychecks

Why assume they wouldn't be happy to shift to a single payer system?

Freddie

(10,046 posts)

7. They wouldn't have employees trapped because of healthcare

Reply to leftstreet (Reply #2)

Tue Dec 30, 2025, 05:26 PM

18 min ago

But yes, most employers would pay less if single payer was financed by a payroll tax (both employers and employees pay in).
Medicare as we know it is financed by a mere 1.45% payroll tax. It could be done if we had the will.

anciano

(2,178 posts)

8. Excellent point.

Reply to Freddie (Reply #7)

Tue Dec 30, 2025, 05:40 PM

4 min ago

canetoad

(20,137 posts)

3. I can tell you

Reply to Henry203 (Original post)

Tue Dec 30, 2025, 03:32 PM

2 hrs ago

How Australia got there. You need a big, brash left wing leader with incredible vision and a genuine love for people. It would help if the health system was not bearing the cost of gunshot wounds too.

Good luck - Obama did the best he could. I fear that too many US citizens (magats) resent the idea of helping sick people.

flvegan

(65,712 posts)

4. A congress and president that aren't useless and beholden to the industry. Job one

Reply to Henry203 (Original post)

Tue Dec 30, 2025, 03:37 PM

2 hrs ago

is giving a shit about us, We the People. Remove the for profit health care system, maybe not spend a hundred quadrillion dollars on the military industry complex, tax the billionaires, take greed out of governing...I could go on, but it's all silliness and fantasy.

Never gonna happen.

anciano

(2,178 posts)

5. Highly unlikely due to the various industries,

Reply to Henry203 (Original post)

Tue Dec 30, 2025, 03:51 PM

1 hr ago

companies and providers with a vested financial interest in the current system.

Bayard

(28,446 posts)

6. Get rid of rethuglicans

Reply to Henry203 (Original post)

Tue Dec 30, 2025, 05:18 PM

27 min ago

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