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Henry203

(881 posts) Tue Dec 30, 2025, 03:03 PM Dec 30

Healthcare- single payer- how do we get there?

How do we get to single payer if 80% of the people are getting subsidies from employers or if they work for the government they are getting subsidies.
An example of that is a family of four might pay $500-$1000 with a $2,000 deductible.
My last year paying for my wife’s bronze plan was $832 per month with a $7,000 deductible.
My friend has his own business and he is paying $24,000 per year with a $7,000 deductible.
Why would people ever support single payer if they get their insurance through their employer?
Any ideas how we get to single payer?

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Healthcare- single payer- how do we get there? (Original Post) Henry203 Dec 30 OP

I can tell you how we don't get there. BannonsLiver Dec 30 #1

Not many employers pay the full premiums leftstreet Dec 30 #2

They wouldn't have employees trapped because of healthcare Freddie Dec 30 #7

Excellent point. anciano Dec 30 #8

I can tell you canetoad Dec 30 #3

A congress and president that aren't useless and beholden to the industry. Job one flvegan Dec 30 #4

Highly unlikely due to the various industries, anciano Dec 30 #5

Get rid of rethuglicans Bayard Dec 30 #6

BannonsLiver

(20,313 posts)

1. I can tell you how we don't get there.

Reply to Henry203 (Original post)

Tue Dec 30, 2025, 03:14 PM

Dec 30

And that’s by having a nimby attitude when it comes to reform.

leftstreet

(39,329 posts)

2. Not many employers pay the full premiums

Reply to Henry203 (Original post)

Tue Dec 30, 2025, 03:22 PM

Dec 30

Employees shoulder increasing premium contibutions from their paychecks

Why assume they wouldn't be happy to shift to a single payer system?

Freddie

(10,073 posts)

7. They wouldn't have employees trapped because of healthcare

Reply to leftstreet (Reply #2)

Tue Dec 30, 2025, 05:26 PM

Dec 30

But yes, most employers would pay less if single payer was financed by a payroll tax (both employers and employees pay in).
Medicare as we know it is financed by a mere 1.45% payroll tax. It could be done if we had the will.

anciano

(2,206 posts)

8. Excellent point.

Reply to Freddie (Reply #7)

Tue Dec 30, 2025, 05:40 PM

Dec 30

canetoad

(20,349 posts)

3. I can tell you

Reply to Henry203 (Original post)

Tue Dec 30, 2025, 03:32 PM

Dec 30

How Australia got there. You need a big, brash left wing leader with incredible vision and a genuine love for people. It would help if the health system was not bearing the cost of gunshot wounds too.

Good luck - Obama did the best he could. I fear that too many US citizens (magats) resent the idea of helping sick people.

flvegan

(65,898 posts)

4. A congress and president that aren't useless and beholden to the industry. Job one

Reply to Henry203 (Original post)

Tue Dec 30, 2025, 03:37 PM

Dec 30

is giving a shit about us, We the People. Remove the for profit health care system, maybe not spend a hundred quadrillion dollars on the military industry complex, tax the billionaires, take greed out of governing...I could go on, but it's all silliness and fantasy.

Never gonna happen.

anciano

(2,206 posts)

5. Highly unlikely due to the various industries,

Reply to Henry203 (Original post)

Tue Dec 30, 2025, 03:51 PM

Dec 30

companies and providers with a vested financial interest in the current system.

Bayard

(28,904 posts)

6. Get rid of rethuglicans

Reply to Henry203 (Original post)

Tue Dec 30, 2025, 05:18 PM

Dec 30

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