General Discussion

gab13by13

(31,259 posts) Sat Jan 3, 2026, 01:55 PM Jan 3

Putin Had To Give Krasnov The OK To Do This

This is the quid part of the arrangement, wondering what the quo part will be? What will Krasnov have to do for Putin?

Will this make Putin's invasion of Ukraine look less egregious? Nah, don't think so.

If Krasnov went rogue on Putin, he's in deep shit. I still think Putin gave his blessing.

Will China feel more emboldened to take Taiwan?

What is Putin getting out of this? Putin needs the price of oil to go up, it went down here in central Pa.

13 replies

= new reply since forum marked as read

Highlight:

Putin Had To Give Krasnov The OK To Do This (Original Post) gab13by13 Jan 3 OP

No. mr715 Jan 3 #1

Rubio looked miserable today. Irish_Dem Jan 3 #4

Perhaps because he will be viceroy of Venezuela nt mr715 Jan 3 #6

Rubio has no influence. He just does what Trump orders him to do JI7 Jan 3 #11

Trump does mr715 Jan 3 #12

That makes 0 sense. sarisataka Jan 3 #2

It gives Putin cover for invading Ukraine. Irish_Dem Jan 3 #3

It's a trade off. Ukraine is finished. Klarkashton Jan 3 #7

I think Europe will have a say in that. Collectively they are stronger than Russia. Buckeyeblue Jan 3 #13

Yeah I'm surprised it hasn't happened sooner newdeal2 Jan 3 #9

Epstein Tetrachloride Jan 3 #5

I think I figured it out gab13by13 Jan 3 #8

All Russians left Venezuela last week malaise Jan 3 #10

mr715

(2,745 posts)

1. No.

Reply to gab13by13 (Original post)

Sat Jan 3, 2026, 01:57 PM

Jan 3

This is Rubio's baby.

Irish_Dem

(79,889 posts)

4. Rubio looked miserable today.

Reply to mr715 (Reply #1)

Sat Jan 3, 2026, 02:06 PM

Jan 3

mr715

(2,745 posts)

6. Perhaps because he will be viceroy of Venezuela nt

Reply to Irish_Dem (Reply #4)

Sat Jan 3, 2026, 02:10 PM

Jan 3

JI7

(93,232 posts)

11. Rubio has no influence. He just does what Trump orders him to do

Reply to mr715 (Reply #1)

Sat Jan 3, 2026, 02:42 PM

Jan 3

mr715

(2,745 posts)

12. Trump does

Reply to JI7 (Reply #11)

Sat Jan 3, 2026, 02:43 PM

Jan 3

what the last person in the room with Trump flatters him into doing.

sarisataka

(22,239 posts)

2. That makes 0 sense.

Reply to gab13by13 (Original post)

Sat Jan 3, 2026, 02:04 PM

Jan 3

Maduro is a firm ally of Russia
Venezuela owes Russia a lot of money. Their oil sales are being used to pay the debt.
A hostile (to the US) Venezuela is an asset to Russia by helping keep US focus distracted in the Caribbean.
Russia has been sending weapons to Venezuela that will need the assistance of Russian troops located there. That investment is now wasted