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Mysterian

(6,179 posts)
Mon Jan 5, 2026, 12:24 PM Monday

Unjustified Iraq invasion cost U.S. taxpayers $3 trillion and did nothing for the people

Democrats should be asking how much the unjustified Venezuela invasion is going to add to the national debt and why taxpayers should be paying so much for republican disasters.

How about inflation? What did the Venezuela disaster do to reduce inflation?

Where are the Epstein files?

Democrats need to stay on the attack as the giant Wurlitzer tries to sell this criminal attack as some kind of victory for the USA.

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Unjustified Iraq invasion cost U.S. taxpayers $3 trillion and did nothing for the people (Original Post) Mysterian Monday OP
The people that matter to the oligarchs enriched themselves malaise Monday #1
Totally agree... This was pushed by vp cheney to fatten his buddies pockets.. Follow the money... mitch96 Monday #4
We all knew they were false just like this crap malaise Monday #6
Did nothing for the people? MarineCombatEngineer Monday #2
Right-o. Nothing good for the people. Mysterian Monday #3
Can U.S. politicians fly into Iraq in broad daylight pre-announced? RedWhiteBlueIsRacist Monday #5
Iraqi oil still trades on the U.S. petrodollar. BlueTsunami2018 Monday #7
Very well said H2O Man Monday #9
Correct malaise Monday #10
Killed & wounded H2O Man Monday #8
"....asking how much the unjustified Venezuela invasion is going to add to the national debt" What "invasion"? EX500rider Monday #11
LOL! You think it's over? Mysterian Monday #12
It is currently over, yes. EX500rider Monday #13
Bookmarked Mysterian Monday #14
Even if we do go back the cost will be nowhere near Iraq's EX500rider Monday #15
You're supposed to say... Mysterian Monday #16
None of those Fwd supply bases were going to last 10 years+ EX500rider Monday #17
"Forward supply bases" LOL! Mysterian Tuesday #19
Fwd supply base's is what they are... EX500rider Tuesday #20
The European supply bases had prepositioned equipment and enough supplies for 90 days of combat generally EX500rider Wednesday #21
Al-Maliki who the US installed was one of the biggest drivers of the faction splits AZProgressive Monday #18

mitch96

(15,663 posts)
4. Totally agree... This was pushed by vp cheney to fatten his buddies pockets.. Follow the money...
Mon Jan 5, 2026, 02:57 PM
Monday

Key Reason: Claims that Iraq possessed WMDs and supported terrorism were central to the justification for war, but these claims were later proven false.
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MarineCombatEngineer

(17,761 posts)
2. Did nothing for the people?
Mon Jan 5, 2026, 12:29 PM
Monday

I wholeheartedly disagree, it did something for the Iraqi people, it allowed ISIS to set up shop in Iraq, it made the Iraqi people much worse off than they were.
Other than that, I 100% agree.

Mysterian

(6,179 posts)
3. Right-o. Nothing good for the people.
Mon Jan 5, 2026, 12:35 PM
Monday

But lots of bad.

And the criminals who lied us into that war walked free.

RedWhiteBlueIsRacist

(1,848 posts)
5. Can U.S. politicians fly into Iraq in broad daylight pre-announced?
Mon Jan 5, 2026, 03:03 PM
Monday

Last I heard, they still have to cowardly sneak in unannounced under cover of darkness 20 fucking years later. What, no fucking chocolates and flowers? Chickenshits.

BlueTsunami2018

(4,867 posts)
7. Iraqi oil still trades on the U.S. petrodollar.
Mon Jan 5, 2026, 03:15 PM
Monday

That’s the win. That was the reason we went there. Saddam was our guy right up until he switched to the Euro. They told him not to, he said fuck off, we killed him and destroyed the country. That’s how this goes. That’s how it always goes. We (the taxpayers) foot the bill for the oil companies, they extract the profits for themselves, we never get paid back.

Venezuela will capitulate and cut off the BRICS nations or they will suffer the same fate.

That’s all this is about.

H2O Man

(78,654 posts)
8. Killed & wounded
Mon Jan 5, 2026, 03:21 PM
Monday

a lot of people, too. Just my opinion, but I don't think that enricking Dick Cheney & friends was a wise investment in human life or economics.

Recommended.

EX500rider

(12,191 posts)
11. "....asking how much the unjustified Venezuela invasion is going to add to the national debt" What "invasion"?
Mon Jan 5, 2026, 04:44 PM
Monday

Do you mean the raid to capture Maduro?
US troops were in the country for 3.5 hrs, I don't think that will total trillions....

Mysterian

(6,179 posts)
12. LOL! You think it's over?
Mon Jan 5, 2026, 04:51 PM
Monday

And the invasion began with the deployment of a fleet and attacks on watercraft and ground facilities months ago.

Please try to keep up. Is it naivete or something else?

EX500rider

(12,191 posts)
13. It is currently over, yes.
Mon Jan 5, 2026, 05:03 PM
Monday

And the Naval vessels/crew would have cost about the same where ever they were, the sailors get paid off Venz the same as anywhere else.

EX500rider

(12,191 posts)
15. Even if we do go back the cost will be nowhere near Iraq's
Mon Jan 5, 2026, 05:40 PM
Monday

US supplies/troops to Iraq from the US is 7,000+ miles, Venz. is 2,000 or so.

Also Venz. does not have a Sunni/Shiite split like Iraq does, that's what drove most the violence there.

And Venz. does not have the neighbors Iraq did ready to feed $ & weapons to insurgents, Iran etc.

Mysterian

(6,179 posts)
16. You're supposed to say...
Mon Jan 5, 2026, 06:20 PM
Monday

"After while, crocodile." Not post meaningless, apparently ill-informed speculation.

Are you not aware of U.S. military bases, stockpiles, depots in Europe, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, etc. prior to the invasion of Iraq? Wow. It seems you are being willfully ignorant in an ineffective attempt to support your argument.

EX500rider

(12,191 posts)
17. None of those Fwd supply bases were going to last 10 years+
Mon Jan 5, 2026, 07:02 PM
Monday

Plus the difference between occupying a Muslim country with mostly Christian troops versus Catholic Venezuela would be a big difference, plus Latinos aren't so keen to strap on bomb vests and blow themselves up at checkpoints Etc

Mysterian

(6,179 posts)
19. "Forward supply bases" LOL!
Tue Jan 6, 2026, 01:36 PM
Tuesday

The U.S. had ammunition/materiel depots in Europe to fight WWIII that were never depleted by the Iraq clusterfuck. You don't have a clue about military operations and logistics. Your use of the term "forward supply base" proves this.

EX500rider

(12,191 posts)
20. Fwd supply base's is what they are...
Tue Jan 6, 2026, 03:53 PM
Tuesday

...if you want to be pedantic you could say:

Army Prepositioned Stocks (APS)

Maritime Prepositioning Force (MPF)

War Reserves for Allies (WRSA-I)

But makes no difference if the supplies come from there or straight from the US.

A. Supplies ship from US to Iraq

B. Supplies ship from fwd supply base to Iraq, then replacement supplies ship from the US to the fwd supply base to restock.

Either way 7,000+ mile route to Iraq, even further to Afghanistan where everything came by air, we had many daily cargo planes landing at Kandahar Airfield (KAF) when I was there in 2005.

EX500rider

(12,191 posts)
21. The European supply bases had prepositioned equipment and enough supplies for 90 days of combat generally
Wed Jan 7, 2026, 12:23 AM
Wednesday

Since we had the equivalent of 10 to 17 divisions of troops in Iraq for over a decade that was not going to be enough LOL

AZProgressive

(29,854 posts)
18. Al-Maliki who the US installed was one of the biggest drivers of the faction splits
Mon Jan 5, 2026, 07:33 PM
Monday

He brutally suppressed protests and discriminated against the Sunni population which helped recruiting for Al-Qaeda in Iraq which later rebranded as ISIS. Iran likely supplied the Iran backed Shia militias with weapons but it was more likely Saudi Arabia or whoever that aligns with Wahabbis that supplied the Wahabbi terror group with at least funding if not weapons. The Iran backed militias were the main ones fighting ISIS in Iraq. Your point on that still stands, just adding minor clarifications.

As far as SouthAmerica there has always been a divide since World War 2 between the left and right and most of those were proxy wars for the US & Russia(Soviet Union at the time). Now that a lot of the leftist governments in South America don't have a super power backing them they are more vulnerable but there is still a possibility of revolt if the US friendly government brutally suppresses the local population in Venezuela.

US is now threatening other governments in South & Central America including Mexico. Outside of them he is even threatening Greenland. It is still too early to tell what the long term consequences of all that will be.

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