shithole needs to take over the world.

I don't believe that the Bush crime family could have gotten away with what they did in Iraq and Afghanistan if we had had a draft. People wouldn't stand for it.

I support whatever it takes now to bring the country aware of our crisis....

I think I glanced thru a post here when the issues that our military was looking at how to increase and/or evaluate women being used in a battle field....which got me thinking of the draft..

Some women are fully capable on the battlefield, and anyway, modern warfare doesn't involve much hand to hand fighting.

... sweeping streets. Part of the benefits would be four free education/vocational training after service.

They may make promises but not comply. Heck, they don't even respect our current military leaders ....example would be retired Senator Kelly.

already don’t take care of those in past wars, so why would they start now.

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Even more than occurs now?

The demand for large armies is not what it was.

but we will need them for Venezuela as it has a more tropical terrain.... I see locals be it gangs or whatever going in and sabotaging mineral sites and oil sites.... evoking ground troops to address.

https://www.hoover.org/research/military-recruiting-shortfalls-recurring-challenge

Military Recruiting Shortfalls—A Recurring Challenge

Ever since the COVID-19 pandemic all but halted in-person recruiting in America’s high schools, the U.S. military has fallen short of its recruiting goals.

Tuesday, January 28, 2025 3 min read By: Peter R. Mansoor Research Team: Military History in Contemporary Conflict Working Group


https://americanmilitarynews.com/2025/03/us-army-losing-huge-number-of-recruits-during-first-two-years-of-enlistment-report/

US Army losing huge number of recruits during first two years of enlistment: Report

A new report claims that the United States Army has lost approximately 25% of the soldiers the military branch has recruited since 2022 prior to the completion of their service contracts.

According to Military.com, internal Army data obtained by Military.com shows that almost 25% of Army soldiers recruited since 2022 have not completed their initial contracts. The outlet noted that the report comes after the Army surpassed its recruitment goal and recruited 55,300 new active-duty troops last year after repeatedly struggling to meet recruitment goals under the Biden-Harris administration.


https://www.msn.com/en-us/society-culture-and-history/social-issues/america-s-military-recruitment-crisis-causes-comparisons-and-solutions/ar-AA1AZ7ZP

America’s Military Recruitment Crisis: Causes, Comparisons, and Solutions

For generations, the U.S. military has stood as a cornerstone of national security and civic duty — a force that not only defends the nation but also shapes its identity. Historically, young Americans were drawn to service by a blend of patriotism, purpose, and the promise of stability. For many, enlistment offered a pathway to education, career advancement, and a sense of belonging that transcended socioeconomic divides. Yet in recent years, this once-reliable pipeline has begun to fracture. Military recruitment has plummeted to record lows, with the Army, Navy, and Air Force all struggling to meet their enlistment goals.


https://www.businessinsider.com/marines-recruiting-crisis-enlistment-quotas-burnout-mental-health-2026-1?op=1


Inside the hidden Marine Corps recruiting crisis that's 'burning Marines' to fill the ranks

Business Insider, in an extensive investigation, found that Marine Corps recruiters face such intense pressure to meet enlistment quotas that some admitted to forging documents and cutting other corners to satisfy what one called an exhausting "numbers game."

Business Insider obtained documents from a Marine Corps investigation into one recruiting sector that found widespread rule-breaking and fraud. We also obtained two Marine Corps Inspector General reports detailing the firings and investigations of two regional recruiting leaders, which show how the pressure to find enlistees took a toll on higher-ups as well. Business Insider is the first to reveal these government reviews.

Business Insider's investigation, which also drew on other Marine Corps data and interviews with nearly four dozen recruiters and officials, found that Marine Corps recruiters face an unusual degree of depression, emotional stress, and elevated risks of divorce, with 15 apparent suicides between 2015 and 2024.

Volunteers ARE NOT stepping into the gap.

the tide will turn.This will be the unfortunate truth.

And they would have to protect and defend the Three Stooges (Hegseth, Rubio, Trump) and not the Constitution.

... so he came up with "Stop Loss" to keep a sufficient number of troops in the field by not allowing them to separate at the end of their hitches if they were in the field. There were no longer enough volunteers.

Our son was kept from coming home for 11 months. No joke. No exaggeration.

For Fiscal Year (FY) 2025, the U.S. military saw a strong recruitment rebound, with most services meeting or exceeding their goals, with the Army achieving 101.72% (62,050 recruits), the Navy 108.61% (44,096), Air Force 100.22% (30,166), Space Force 102.89% (819), and Marine Corps 100% (26,600), marking the best numbers in years

It’s been stated that when the economy sucks, more people tend to fall back on the military for jobs.
Hard to tell what the overall trend really is.
You would have to be *very* desperate to join today’s military with no idea what kind of fate trumph has in store for you !

... economic distress and without complete educations. It's huge wasted investment.

First - the increase appears to be due to a Biden era initiative to allow those that fail to meet standards for enlistment to enter a program where they are allowed to try to reach those standards, instead of being rejected outright.

Second - in my 28.5 years in the Navy, including a tour of Recruiting Duty, there was a constant truth. When the economy was lagging, we made, or exceeded goal every month. When the economy and job market was strong, we struggled to make goal.

Same shit, different decade.

The wealthy like Trump and a MAGA will never let their kids be drafted just like they did during Vietnam. If they do it there should be no exceptions. Everybody has to serve at least 3 years in the military or some type of peace corps job before they can enroll in college or trade school.