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Ocelot II

(129,678 posts)
Tue Jan 6, 2026, 03:24 PM Jan 6

How would we react if a foreign country kidnapped Trump?

Would we be happy that he was gone or outraged that a foreign military force abducted our president? Let's say Trump actually did invade Greenland to attempt to seize it for the US. Denmark invokes NATO Article 5 and a coalition of NATO countries manages to do what the US did wrt Maduro in Venezuela? What would we do?

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How would we react if a foreign country kidnapped Trump? (Original Post) Ocelot II Jan 6 OP
A strongly worded letter, after the celebrations n/t leftstreet Jan 6 #1
"No give-backs!!!" ret5hd Jan 6 #2
Who's "we?" BlueTsunami2018 Jan 6 #3
This message was self-deleted by its author mr715 Jan 6 #7
"We" could mean either us right here on DU, or the country as a whole. Ocelot II Jan 6 #22
🤔 It really isn't "half the country". More like 35ish % with ?10% of that being violence prone. electric_blue68 Jan 6 #35
Who is we? mr715 Jan 6 #4
breathe a sigh jaymac Jan 6 #5
I'd be whistling zippity doo dah out of my arse. BannonsLiver Jan 6 #6
I think most would not be happy Ohioboy Jan 6 #8
Realistically? Watch fecklessly as Hegseth's Dept of War bombed said flvegan Jan 6 #9
I'd assume it's Putin just giving him Torchlight Jan 6 #10
Not or, and EdmondDantes_ Jan 6 #11
One can hold more than one pov, even conflicting ones electric_blue68 Jan 6 #36
I would be happy or not care. JI7 Jan 6 #12
I would make them... 2naSalit Jan 6 #13
In that particular set of circumstances, I would be far from outraged personally AZJonnie Jan 6 #14
Certainly Denmark and NATO would have a far better justification for doing it Ocelot II Jan 6 #23
🥂🥳 SuzyandPuffpuff Jan 6 #15
Joyous! ZDU Jan 6 #16
Well, I still have that bottle of Taittinger's in my fridge... Aristus Jan 6 #17
"How would we react if a foreign country kidnapped Trump?" LudwigPastorius Jan 6 #18
Both. Raven123 Jan 6 #19
The US would never accept Article 5 against itself (questionable these days walkingman Jan 6 #20
Happy that he'd be gone, scared how the US would retaliate sakabatou Jan 6 #21
Anyone that would kidnap Trump would quickly give him back Buckeyeblue Jan 6 #24
Like the O'Henry story, "The Ransom of Red Chief." Ocelot II Jan 6 #26
... SheltieLover Jan 6 #32
Oh! Lol electric_blue68 Jan 6 #37
First applause and then a big party. sinkingfeeling Jan 6 #25
Considering who would be in charge Tree Lady Jan 6 #27
👏👏👏👏👏👏 Rebl2 Jan 6 #28
After the past year? get the red out Jan 6 #29
celebration, parties, pay them to never send him back mike_c Jan 6 #30
Wasn't he the cofveevee boy? Lol usedtobedemgurl Jan 6 #43
Nominate them collectively for the biggest Nobel Peace Prize ever? SheltieLover Jan 6 #31
You even have to ask? NoRethugFriends Jan 6 #33
Hopefully, we'd refuse to pay the ransom. Jim__ Jan 6 #34
We'll party till we collapse Wicked Blue Jan 6 #38
With glee and tears in our eyes. gAI Obsession Jan 6 #39
It wouldn't do to make a habit of it. Buns_of_Fire Jan 6 #40
Who? Never heard of the guy. Low level staffer Johonny Jan 6 #41
I'm not happy with the instability in the world system right now nilram Jan 6 #42
Do you accept Visa / Mastercard? Mysterian Jan 6 #44
TRY IT AND FIND OUT !!!! nt eppur_se_muova Jan 6 #45

BlueTsunami2018

(4,911 posts)
3. Who's "we?"
Tue Jan 6, 2026, 03:28 PM
Jan 6

Half the country would be celebrating, half the country would be out for blood.

The government would be bombing the fuck out of people with full support from Congress.

Response to BlueTsunami2018 (Reply #3)

Ocelot II

(129,678 posts)
22. "We" could mean either us right here on DU, or the country as a whole.
Tue Jan 6, 2026, 03:57 PM
Jan 6

Including myself as part of the first "we" I'd be happy to see his fat orange ass hauled away. I'm sure there are plenty of Venezuelans who are glad Maduro is gone, too. The official national response certainly would be something else entirely, though Shady Vance probably would be secretly delighted to have his chance to be the tough guy who can fist-bump with Kegbreath.

electric_blue68

(26,346 posts)
35. 🤔 It really isn't "half the country". More like 35ish % with ?10% of that being violence prone.
Tue Jan 6, 2026, 04:50 PM
Jan 6
imho 👍

mr715

(3,139 posts)
4. Who is we?
Tue Jan 6, 2026, 03:29 PM
Jan 6

I mean, if, say, I don't know... some EU nation deployed their intelligence agents and kidnapped him for trial at the Hague, I'd be pretty happy.

As a nation? I think we'd be pretty upset. 100 million people or so

But the idea of him getting taken away? Made me happy. I also wanted that to happen to the Cheneys (all of them), the Bushes, Kissinger, Wolfowitz (who is still around I think at the World Bank)...

 

jaymac

(267 posts)
5. breathe a sigh
Tue Jan 6, 2026, 03:29 PM
Jan 6

of relief?
but we'd still have his minions...........could we politely ask the coalition to take a whole bunch of them?????

Ohioboy

(3,883 posts)
8. I think most would not be happy
Tue Jan 6, 2026, 03:31 PM
Jan 6

Even thought I don't like Trump's behavior and policies, I still would not like to have another country do what we did to Venezuela.

flvegan

(65,927 posts)
9. Realistically? Watch fecklessly as Hegseth's Dept of War bombed said
Tue Jan 6, 2026, 03:32 PM
Jan 6

foreign country back to the stone age, regardless of who it was.

Torchlight

(6,473 posts)
10. I'd assume it's Putin just giving him
Tue Jan 6, 2026, 03:33 PM
Jan 6

the agreed-upon escape and dacha in Yakut. If a western European nation did it, I'd (all other things being equal) watch the process play out with curiosity.

EdmondDantes_

(1,486 posts)
11. Not or, and
Tue Jan 6, 2026, 03:35 PM
Jan 6

I'd be happy and angry. Sometimes a bad action can result in good, although I suspect it would backfire and increase support for MAGA. I can likewise think Trump ordering Maduro's arrest and removal as a bad thing and be happy a dictator is removed. That happiness is tempered both by the means and very low confidence that it will benefit the Venezuelans or the world.

2naSalit

(100,813 posts)
13. I would make them...
Tue Jan 6, 2026, 03:38 PM
Jan 6

Promise not to send him back. It would be a positive move for everyone on the planet. Maduro had little impact on the global stage, this would be different in that it would benefit all life on the planet and, therefore, acceptable...even if they dropped him in the ocean on the way to his prison cell.

AZJonnie

(3,131 posts)
14. In that particular set of circumstances, I would be far from outraged personally
Tue Jan 6, 2026, 03:38 PM
Jan 6

However what you describe would be a much better justification than the one(s) given by the Marmalade Shartcannon for kidnapping Maduro, done by multiple countries acting in alliance, pursuant to their joint defence treaties.

If it were done by, say, Iran, I think I'd be pissed, even though generally I want Trump removed from office, that is not the proper means.

I can't really speak for 'we' however, given the lack of specificity regarding who "we" are, in the context of the initial query

Ocelot II

(129,678 posts)
23. Certainly Denmark and NATO would have a far better justification for doing it
Tue Jan 6, 2026, 03:58 PM
Jan 6

than Trump had for abducting Maduro.

LudwigPastorius

(14,354 posts)
18. "How would we react if a foreign country kidnapped Trump?"
Tue Jan 6, 2026, 03:47 PM
Jan 6

Unalloyed jubilation...

So, maybe that's not a good comparison to Venezuela.

walkingman

(10,454 posts)
20. The US would never accept Article 5 against itself (questionable these days
Tue Jan 6, 2026, 03:52 PM
Jan 6

if the US would accept it even today unless we agree), likely say that what we are doing is vital to our national security, and deny, deny, deny any culpability. This most devastating thing would be internal, not external. Would Congress authorize war? Withdraw from NATO? Would the troops follow orders that clearly violate international law?

IMO, we would see "state level" resistance based on political support and I suspect the end of our so-called "United States". I think that history shows (although we have a very short history) that the US never...ever, admits it's mistakes. We don't even allow the history of our atrocities to be taught these days.

BOTTOM LINE - unless we impeach this lunatic we have running our country we are setting ourselves up for some bad shit.

Buckeyeblue

(6,273 posts)
24. Anyone that would kidnap Trump would quickly give him back
Tue Jan 6, 2026, 04:10 PM
Jan 6

It would be short term reprive. And then he would come back and brag about how he saved himself.

Ocelot II

(129,678 posts)
26. Like the O'Henry story, "The Ransom of Red Chief."
Tue Jan 6, 2026, 04:15 PM
Jan 6

It's a short story about a couple of criminals who kidnap a rich man's young son for ransom, only to discover that the kid is a holy terror, and they end up having to pay the father to take him back. https://classicshorts.com/stories/redchief.html

Tree Lady

(13,090 posts)
27. Considering who would be in charge
Tue Jan 6, 2026, 04:15 PM
Jan 6

With him gone, we would be watching the circus start daily as all his minions fight over what to do.

Vance would pretend to try and get him back, but then make sure it never happened so he could stay being president. He would issue threats then say for the good of the country we aren’t going to war….

Buns_of_Fire

(19,049 posts)
40. It wouldn't do to make a habit of it.
Tue Jan 6, 2026, 05:10 PM
Jan 6

In that specific case, though, I forgive them in advance - so long as they don't try to give him back.

nilram

(3,500 posts)
42. I'm not happy with the instability in the world system right now
Tue Jan 6, 2026, 05:18 PM
Jan 6

and, given that they'd probably have to use a lot more force to get TSF, I'd probably be pretty frightened.

I'm just going to send him some gift cards to McDonalds and hope that does the trick.

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