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LuckyCharms

(22,146 posts)
Wed Jan 7, 2026, 03:35 PM Jan 7

Like probably many of you, I am having trouble containing my anger.

I've been out most of the day, and now I am watching TV about the events in Minneapolis.

As I type this, I'm hearing on the TV that Trump is calling the deceased woman something like a "professional agitator".

I think this is a tipping point.

I knew this would happen, but I can't wrap my head around it.

Fighting mad here, literally.

I don't know what else to say.

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Like probably many of you, I am having trouble containing my anger. (Original Post) LuckyCharms Jan 7 OP
To me the ICE agents are just goons who DURHAM D Jan 7 #1
Donvict's THUGs malaise Jan 7 #2
It appears H2O Man Jan 7 #34
I missed it as well malaise Jan 7 #35
Oh, well..... H2O Man Jan 7 #36
LOL malaise Jan 7 #41
Absofuckinlutely! yellow dahlia Jan 7 #52
Probably on his orders Clouds Passing Jan 7 #55
Post removed Post removed Jan 7 #3
This message was self-deleted by its author LuckyCharms Jan 7 #4
Message auto-removed Name removed Jan 7 #7
Very serious indeed. Torchlight Jan 7 #9
fuck off troll Kali Jan 7 #5
Sounds serious Torchlight Jan 7 #6
Right there with you. mr715 Jan 7 #8
I am sick with sadness and rage. demmiblue Jan 7 #10
Oh no... LuckyCharms Jan 7 #11
Message auto-removed Name removed Jan 7 #18
Alerted, fuckstick. hatrack Jan 7 #19
Sometimes it's the little things that catch you... electric_blue68 Jan 7 #45
She has a 6 year old in school in the area. SunSeeker Jan 7 #65
Another reason the old ways are dead. The Grand Illuminist Jan 7 #12
I am angry and sad and scared. MIButterfly Jan 7 #13
They are all monsters BonnieJW Jan 7 #30
I think a lot of us perhaps see ourselves in this scenario. hamsterjill Jan 7 #14
Someone's mom... LuckyCharms Jan 7 #15
I'm as angry as I can ever remember being . . . hatrack Jan 7 #16
Same. n/t LuckyCharms Jan 7 #17
Parallel lives hatrack Billsdaughter Jan 7 #44
I've posited this a couple of times: In the rush to ramp up ICE and meet quotas, the Administration has... surfered Jan 7 #20
They deliberately recruit among groups like Proud Boys & Oath Keepers--thugs and bully boys. tblue37 Jan 7 #32
And they're paying them with taxpayer money. Let that sink in. llmart Jan 7 #62
They have hired many Just Jerome Jan 7 #40
Actually They Lack the Credentials to Be Out and About in the Company of Actual Human Beings, The Roux Comes First Jan 8 #77
They wanted a martyr. Got one not what they wanted. Blue Full Moon Jan 7 #21
Yep. Wrong kind of martyr. paleotn Jan 7 #31
Any rational person would be white hot with rage MarineCombatEngineer Jan 7 #22
Agree. This feels historical. LuckyCharms Jan 7 #24
They are Fully "OUT"... BurnDoubt Jan 7 #23
This our "Kent State" moment jmbar2 Jan 7 #25
May 4, 1970 comes again. lastlib Jan 7 #37
Its always the outside agitators 🤨 Devilsun Jan 7 #26
I am also very very mad LetMyPeopleVote Jan 7 #27
These thugs are totally out of control catchnrelease Jan 7 #28
What did the police do to the perpetrators? Boomerproud Jan 7 #59
So far she hasn't posted any more catchnrelease Jan 7 #61
my house is feeling the same .. proud patriot Jan 7 #29
I hear there are candlelight vigils and protests being organized, yellow dahlia Jan 7 #54
thanks proud patriot Jan 7 #57
There is one in my state capitol tomorrow evening. yellow dahlia Jan 7 #58
I'm with you. paleotn Jan 7 #33
This is not who WE the people are... mysteryowl Jan 7 #38
I'm furious, and grieving, and frightened Laurelin Jan 7 #39
Remember...there are more of us than them - NT CommonHumanity Jan 7 #68
Are there really? jaymac Jan 8 #79
YES there are CommonHumanity Jan 9 #82
10 for one, Captain Zero Jan 7 #42
This message was self-deleted by its author Prairie_Seagull Jan 7 #43
I have previously thought it was best to try to stay connected with people, even though we disagree concering Trump. dedl67 Jan 7 #46
Hell, I did not know about this. Just saw the videos and the BS excuse lies. I'm in tears. Doodley Jan 7 #47
Half an hour ago . . . AverageOldGuy Jan 7 #48
I'm watching krist noem on msnow AverageOldGuy Jan 7 #49
I'm with you. Joinfortmill Jan 7 #50
In my small town there is a street called Heather Heyer way Keepthesoulalive Jan 7 #51
Malcolm Nance on this. He is spitting mad and calling for people to get out in the streets, organize. Amaryllis Jan 7 #53
Tin soldiers and Nixon's coming, PatrickforB Jan 7 #56
We're finally on our own. NT CommonHumanity Jan 7 #67
🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬 Chicagogrl1 Jan 7 #60
not mad yet CommonHumanity Jan 7 #63
Replying to my own post above CommonHumanity Jan 7 #66
This certainly negates the 'Trump captures Maduro' story.... Jack Valentino Jan 7 #64
To use my original idiom, "I ain't containing shit!" OldBaldy1701E Jan 8 #69
it's a boiling kettle right now. Javaman Jan 8 #70
i relate oldinmtdem92 Jan 8 #71
I think you hit it. WinstonSmith4740 Jan 8 #72
my anger meters have been busted for years. AllaN01Bear Jan 8 #73
I wish I thought this was a tipping point quakerboy Jan 8 #74
PUTIN IS POPPING CHAMPAGNE IN THE KREMLIN RIGHT NOW. AZ8theist Jan 8 #75
It's difficult to protest when the management at your job are trumpers☹️ Ziggysmom Jan 8 #76
Why doesn't Truth, honor, merit and valor ever win anymore? Under The Radar Jan 8 #78
So Angry! Humanityfirst Jan 8 #80
Maybe a few of us should get hired by ice. Destroy from inside. Linda ladeewolf Jan 8 #81

DURHAM D

(32,978 posts)
1. To me the ICE agents are just goons who
Wed Jan 7, 2026, 03:38 PM
Jan 7

are excited to have a job where they can harm/kill women and minorities for shits and grins.

H2O Man

(78,815 posts)
34. It appears
Wed Jan 7, 2026, 05:07 PM
Jan 7

that I missed a troll responding to you. Darn it! It's funny, in a way, because I had recently discussed some suspects that target our forum's very best members!

H2O Man

(78,815 posts)
36. Oh, well.....
Wed Jan 7, 2026, 05:11 PM
Jan 7

We still thank you for telling the Truth in such a manner that our beast fiend lost control and exposed themself.

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SunSeeker

(57,820 posts)
65. She has a 6 year old in school in the area.
Wed Jan 7, 2026, 11:06 PM
Jan 7

The 1-minute video at the link is hard to watch. It is the woman and the dog who were in the car with victim. The woman, in shock and crying, is sitting on the sidewalk near the victim's crashed car. She identifies herself as the victim's wife to a bystander who is filming the aftermath of the shooting. The victim's car can be seen in the background. The woman says she doesn't know what to do, that they have no family nearby as they are new to the area, and that they have a 6 year old child who is at school.


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/video/news/video-3582471/Bystander-films-crying-wife-Minneapolis-woman-shot-dead-ICE.html

The Grand Illuminist

(2,026 posts)
12. Another reason the old ways are dead.
Wed Jan 7, 2026, 04:16 PM
Jan 7

Last edited Thu Jan 8, 2026, 11:34 PM - Edit history (1)

There is a silent growing movement going on.

MIButterfly

(2,260 posts)
13. I am angry and sad and scared.
Wed Jan 7, 2026, 04:18 PM
Jan 7

I am angry at what happened and angry at the soulless bastards (DJT included) who condone this type of thing. I'm angry that there are armed goons patrolling our streets. I'm angry about the idiots who voted for that miserable cretin, especially after having lived through his first term and J6 which we all saw with our own eyes.

I am sad for the woman and sad for all the people who knew her and loved her.

And I'm scared about what atrocity is going to happen next and who's going to be next. And I'm afraid there's nothing going to be done to stop it.

BonnieJW

(3,092 posts)
30. They are all monsters
Wed Jan 7, 2026, 04:58 PM
Jan 7

This entire regime are monsters of misery. I include all republican lawmakers who do nothing to stop this outrage and choose to allow their constituents to live in fear, sickness, and poverty.

hamsterjill

(17,146 posts)
14. I think a lot of us perhaps see ourselves in this scenario.
Wed Jan 7, 2026, 04:20 PM
Jan 7

The woman is being approached by masked, unidentified goons demanding she get out of her car. What would any of us do?

We'd try to get away. I'd have been scared to death.

LuckyCharms

(22,146 posts)
15. Someone's mom...
Wed Jan 7, 2026, 04:23 PM
Jan 7

wife

girlfriend

daughter

sister

aunt

friend

Someone who simply had an automatic flight from danger reaction.

hatrack

(64,458 posts)
16. I'm as angry as I can ever remember being . . .
Wed Jan 7, 2026, 04:26 PM
Jan 7

Had enough, America?

Had enough of thugs and crooks and liars and buffoons?

Had enough of bullshit and fantasy and opioid hallucinations dressed up as "policy"?

Had enough of endless lies and happy-talk, flag-waving "news"?

Had enough of boot-licking, dick-sucking, ass-kissing politicians who gobble their God-King's shit and proclaim it caviar?

Had enough of naked, bloody force deployed by overweight, incompetent assclowns who couldn't get a job guarding a Cracker Barrel parking lot? Naked bloody force coming soon to a city near you at the command of the Littlest President?

This is the last straw. The only benefit of where I am right now is that today is helping me to substantially simplify my life (as in numbers blocked, contacts erased, relationships ended) , so I guess that's the upside of anger.

Billsdaughter

(130 posts)
44. Parallel lives hatrack
Wed Jan 7, 2026, 05:38 PM
Jan 7

I deleted some of those too today. I can no longer abide. Abiding at this juncture is capitulation.

surfered

(12,197 posts)
20. I've posited this a couple of times: In the rush to ramp up ICE and meet quotas, the Administration has...
Wed Jan 7, 2026, 04:31 PM
Jan 7

...hired people who have no business being in law enforcement and compounded that mistake by not adequately training them. It's apparent from their actions they are unprofessional and shame the profession.

tblue37

(68,325 posts)
32. They deliberately recruit among groups like Proud Boys & Oath Keepers--thugs and bully boys.
Wed Jan 7, 2026, 05:06 PM
Jan 7

llmart

(17,418 posts)
62. And they're paying them with taxpayer money. Let that sink in.
Wed Jan 7, 2026, 09:32 PM
Jan 7

The ads I've seen on TV say $50K bonus to sign up.

Just Jerome

(449 posts)
40. They have hired many
Wed Jan 7, 2026, 05:17 PM
Jan 7

who have no business being outside of a penal institution or, perhaps, a place with soft walls and pastel meds.

The Roux Comes First

(2,207 posts)
77. Actually They Lack the Credentials to Be Out and About in the Company of Actual Human Beings,
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 02:27 PM
Jan 8

Never mind in a position of "responsibility" or "authority."

paleotn

(21,788 posts)
31. Yep. Wrong kind of martyr.
Wed Jan 7, 2026, 05:05 PM
Jan 7

But this was inevitable, one way or another. Hopefully a turning point. Don't let this woman die in vain!!!!!

MarineCombatEngineer

(17,842 posts)
22. Any rational person would be white hot with rage
Wed Jan 7, 2026, 04:33 PM
Jan 7

with the lies coming out of puppy killer Noem and Trumpedo's pie holes.
This could very well be the tipping point like when George Floyd was murdered by Derek Chauvin.

BurnDoubt

(1,572 posts)
23. They are Fully "OUT"...
Wed Jan 7, 2026, 04:33 PM
Jan 7

Not even the veneer of a question, anymore.
The last seven days are an indication they have neutralized any guardrails or controls on their depravity.
They’ve sopped the dogs and drugged the jailers and they’re letting their worst iterations out to parade on the streets and in broad daylight (Literally).
I wouldn’t be surprised if Xi attacks Taiwan, and Putin nukes Kyiv before Easter.
Welcome to the Triumvirate! Fourth Reich, Yahr Null, written across the Globe… In Sharpie!!!!!!
WINNING!!!!!!!!!!!!!
(Why isn’t there Black-Letter Law preventing this, and WHY didn’t we know for Two-Hundred-Fifty Years???????)
S-O-Fucking-S.

lastlib

(27,745 posts)
37. May 4, 1970 comes again.
Wed Jan 7, 2026, 05:11 PM
Jan 7

Time to take to the streets, people!

Response to Kent State was a nationwide student strike. Needs to be bigger this time. MUCH, MUCH bigger!

catchnrelease

(2,138 posts)
28. These thugs are totally out of control
Wed Jan 7, 2026, 04:51 PM
Jan 7

Just another example of how little control these goons have--just yesterday a friend in a SoCal city posted online how in the am she and her husband heard a loud bang. They went outside and find an ICE pickup truck (like one seen in the Minneapolis video) was rammed into the side of their own truck, parked in their own driveway! The friend lives on a corner lot at the junction of a moderately busy street/residential street. She said that the ICE truck was after someone and apparently drove across her front yard when trying to make the corner turn, and slammed into her vehicle. Total madness!! It's like these 'agents' think they're all in Smokey and the Bandit or something, just do whatever you want, drive like a maniac, shoot wildly etc.

And it occurs to me that the friend's house is across the street from a school, where there are always kids walking. It would have easily been a massacre if there were kids walking to school when that truck went through there. Point here being that you don't even have to be an immigrant or out protesting or attending an event to be impacted by ICE thugs.

catchnrelease

(2,138 posts)
61. So far she hasn't posted any more
Wed Jan 7, 2026, 08:46 PM
Jan 7

She did say that the ICE goons got the person they were after. It sounds like there might have been more than one vehicle of agents, as she made one comment about 'they kept circling (the block) until they knew they had him before they stopped. They came by to survey the wreckage but then went on their way'. There's no way the vehicle that hit their car could have driven on. It was T boned into the side of the friend's truck and the front tires were flat. She posted photos but I don't want to repost or link in case she could be ID'd by anyone out there.

I'm assuming they got contact info from whoever was driving, and there at the time of the crash, otherwise how would they know it was ICE. Many people commented on her post recommending she contact her Congressperson, police, etc. Crazy stuff.

proud patriot

(102,429 posts)
29. my house is feeling the same ..
Wed Jan 7, 2026, 04:52 PM
Jan 7

I just pulled out a poster board .. thinking of painting a sign today !!!
I'm going to check mobilizeus for any protests near me .

paleotn

(21,788 posts)
33. I'm with you.
Wed Jan 7, 2026, 05:07 PM
Jan 7

Past time we stood up and said ENOUGH!

I could literally tear these motherfuckers apart with my teeth!!!!

mysteryowl

(8,566 posts)
38. This is not who WE the people are...
Wed Jan 7, 2026, 05:12 PM
Jan 7

it is our government.

Protest (mass numbers) peacefully America!

Laurelin

(779 posts)
39. I'm furious, and grieving, and frightened
Wed Jan 7, 2026, 05:15 PM
Jan 7

They are monsters. Our country has become evil
And my fellow citizens want this. How did I not realize what monsters we are? (I mean collectively, Americans not individually, all of you here)

CommonHumanity

(351 posts)
82. YES there are
Fri Jan 9, 2026, 09:32 AM
Jan 9

Notice opinion polls.

Also, bear in mind that a minority of greedy mother fuckers have warped the opinions of a significant portion of our population with talk radio and other misinformation, propaganda, corrupt legislation and limitless money, not to mention stealing elections and Russian interference.

Also bear in mind the huge number of people that are disengaged and disenfranchised by design. I'm not just talking about purging voter rolls. I'm talking about a system that breeds a feeling of powerlessness.

Response to LuckyCharms (Original post)

dedl67

(190 posts)
46. I have previously thought it was best to try to stay connected with people, even though we disagree concering Trump.
Wed Jan 7, 2026, 06:00 PM
Jan 7

No more. Anyone who still supports Trump is morally sick and not worth my time and effort. Let them stew in their own juices.

AverageOldGuy

(3,497 posts)
48. Half an hour ago . . .
Wed Jan 7, 2026, 06:23 PM
Jan 7

. . . I unloaded on the TV my real feelings.

My wife-- we have been married almost 60 years -- was aghast.

She immediately locked up the liquor cabinet and called my son to come over here and remove all my firearms.

Keepthesoulalive

(2,170 posts)
51. In my small town there is a street called Heather Heyer way
Wed Jan 7, 2026, 06:40 PM
Jan 7

Our response to the little Nazi shits was to hound them. There was nowhere they could go without crowds of people screaming and protesting. Many of us are too old to hit the streets but we can donate and make signs. Let’s protest them find the companies that support them and boycott them. Let’s make sure the powers that support the felonious thugs feel our wrath and power. Can the people that can do the research find the silent monsters that support them and make a list, so I can choose where to spend my dollars also check if my state is purchasing anything from them.

Amaryllis

(11,069 posts)
53. Malcolm Nance on this. He is spitting mad and calling for people to get out in the streets, organize.
Wed Jan 7, 2026, 06:44 PM
Jan 7
https://levremembers.substack.com/p/breaking-live-with-malcolm-nanceminneapolis

There are already a bunch of protests and national calls for today and tomorrow.

PatrickforB

(15,377 posts)
56. Tin soldiers and Nixon's coming,
Wed Jan 7, 2026, 07:34 PM
Jan 7

We're finally on our own.
This summer I hear the drumming,
Four dead in Ohio.

What if you knew her and found her dead on the ground?
How can you run when you know?

CommonHumanity

(351 posts)
63. not mad yet
Wed Jan 7, 2026, 09:59 PM
Jan 7

Just overwhelmingly sad and super sick to my stomach and horrified and so so sad and distressed about where we are.

CommonHumanity

(351 posts)
66. Replying to my own post above
Wed Jan 7, 2026, 11:21 PM
Jan 7

After listening to Malcolm Nanace's suggestions, I plan to go to an Interstate 40 overpass during morning traffic on Friday and hang a huge banner that says "ICE murders Americans-Abolish ICE".

And yes, I know that ICE murders and tortures many more non-Americans than Americans, but I'm going for maximum impact to the largely American morning commuters.

Jack Valentino

(4,594 posts)
64. This certainly negates the 'Trump captures Maduro' story....
Wed Jan 7, 2026, 10:50 PM
Jan 7



I've been so overloaded with outrage that I have little left to summon,
and I have to be careful not to say what I really think,
because much of it would violate the just rules of this blessed 'safe space' !


Yes, it is an outrage, a crime and yet another ICE murder.
I hope that justice will be served to the perpetrator
and to those under whom he served...





OldBaldy1701E

(10,560 posts)
69. To use my original idiom, "I ain't containing shit!"
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 07:41 AM
Jan 8

I am furious with them for doing it and us for letting it get this far.

I am furious that we had plenty of warnings and decided not to listen. (Not unusual for this nation, I am afraid.)

I am furious that the programming worked this well. I remember when I laughed at the fact that they were trying to do so.

Not any more. The depth to which this worked is beyond frightening. People are literally afraid to stand up for themselves because they were told not to.

Have we had enough yet? Considering the damage done already, I would have thought so.

But...

Javaman

(65,340 posts)
70. it's a boiling kettle right now.
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 07:42 AM
Jan 8

as I told Mrs Java, "this year is going to be one for the record books"

she responded, "how much worse can it get?

Me, "oh so very much worse"

oldinmtdem92

(118 posts)
71. i relate
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 09:46 AM
Jan 8

me too the point to all the fascist shit is get us to openly revolt then he can have the stormtroopers kill us.

WinstonSmith4740

(3,420 posts)
72. I think you hit it.
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 10:18 AM
Jan 8
I think this is a tipping point.
After the horror of what happened sank in, that was pretty much my first thought.
When Charlie Kirk was killed, I saw posts on facebook about how we libs had to watch out because his murder was the "turning point". I guess the threat was they were going to get worse than they already are.
They ain't seen nothin' yet.

quakerboy

(14,770 posts)
74. I wish I thought this was a tipping point
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 12:28 PM
Jan 8

I think this is just par for the course, and nothing will be changing on our slide into fascism. Let me know when Governors and mayors start sending the national guard and the local PD to protect people from ICE. That could be a tipping point.

When I see local PD standing with their backs to protestors and their weapons towards the violent RW thugs endangering the nation, I will start to believe theres a chance of turning this around. Otherwise, we are just sitting in a kids tobaggan, having experienced the kiddy ski slopes of previous Republican administrations without jumping off or stopping, having somehow jumped over to the advanced ski slope of fascism, picking up speed towards the cliff at the bottom.

AZ8theist

(7,123 posts)
75. PUTIN IS POPPING CHAMPAGNE IN THE KREMLIN RIGHT NOW.
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 12:38 PM
Jan 8

America being torn apart by Fascists without him firing a shot.

Another poster said Putin will nuke Kiev soon. And Dotard won't lift a finger to do anything about it.

Ziggysmom

(4,081 posts)
76. It's difficult to protest when the management at your job are trumpers☹️
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 01:59 PM
Jan 8

I know many people who would love to gather but live in fear of losing their income!

Under The Radar

(3,429 posts)
78. Why doesn't Truth, honor, merit and valor ever win anymore?
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 02:45 PM
Jan 8

This Ice agent will get away with this murder, the administration will see to it, just as Kyle Rittenhouse walked free. If you are on their side, you are immune.
Clear video footage shows the truth of the tragedy but right wing talking point tell you that you are not seeing what you are clearly seeing.

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