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usonian

(23,585 posts)
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 12:42 PM Thursday

The data center rebellion is here, and it's reshaping the political landscape

WAPO, archived
https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2026/01/06/data-centers-backlash-impact-local-communities-opposition/
https://archive.ph/MYv7n

Anger over the perceived trampling of communities by Silicon Valley has entered the national political conversation and could affect voters of all political persuasions in this year’s midterm elections.

Many of the neighbors fighting the project in Sand Springs voted for Trump three times and also backed Republican Gov. J. Kevin Stitt, who implores tech firms to build in his state.

“We know Trump wants data centers and Kevin Stitt wants data centers, but these things don’t affect these people,” said Brian Ingram, a Trump voter living in the shadow of the planned project. “You know, this affects us.”

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The grassroots blowback comes from deep red states as much as from left-wing groups such as the Democratic Socialists of America, which have helped draw hundreds of residents to hearings in Arizona, Indiana and Maryland.


In related news:
Sen. Bernie Sanders: Here's Why We Need to Halt AI Data Center Construction
https://www.pcmag.com/news/sen-bernie-sanders-heres-why-we-need-to-halt-ai-data-center-construction



And then, there's ...

Democrats reject Bernie Sanders’ data center pause
https://www.politico.com/live-updates/2026/01/07/congress/democrats-reject-bernie-sanders-data-center-pause-00713664

Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) wants to block the construction of any new data centers to protect people from the harms of artificial intelligence. But few Democrats — including some of his picks in key midterm races — have joined his call for a moratorium despite agreeing that regulators aren’t keeping up with the threats artificial intelligence poses to utility bills and resources.

The split shows how neither party has a united strategy to take advantage of voters’ distrust of artificial intelligence heading into the 2026 midterms. Democratic candidates in Virginia and New Jersey have already capitalized on that distaste to win key gubernatorial races, highlighting how powerful of an issue AI could be in November.


It's pretty simple. Who counts?
The 99%


Or the less than 1%



You must choose wisely.
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Hugin

(37,444 posts)
1. I consider myself somewhat tech literate...
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 01:17 PM
Thursday

And I struggle to even understand what the purpose of a so-called data center is other than yet another buzzword to throw around in boardrooms.

usonian

(23,585 posts)
4. They're to process as much data as can be grabbed, all in parallel, each at a giant environmental hit (power, water.. )
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 03:28 PM
Thursday

Many times over! X, Meta, Google, Amazon, Apple, OpenAI, .... EVERYONE. (that we know of!!!!! )

The latest push is to grab every single medical record (now stored in silos -- providers --- and protected by HIPAA) on earth.

My prediction at this point is that massive LLM databases will all produce similar results, give or take bias (as in Musk pushing porn and child exploitation) and that part will commoditize as in "This shit comes free when you buy a phone" (Ask Apple about this).

Any focused verticals, such as medical or engineering may thrive, though without proprietary and private data, I wonder.

Hugin

(37,444 posts)
7. Besides Earth smothering amounts of greenhouse gasses what are data centers intended to do or produce?
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 05:34 PM
Thursday

What do they provide? I don’t get the verb here.

usonian

(23,585 posts)
8. Artificial Intelligence, kind of by definition, is to replace humans. (intelligence)
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 05:40 PM
Thursday

Trouble is (IMO) they always look backwards, to data that is already collected, and are programmed to reinforce the user's point of view (such as suicide, it turns out rather sadly).

LLM's (large language models) lack foresight, though I suppose they have it if they ingest science-fiction, which turns out to be true, many years after it was written.

IMO, this can have really negative effects, and maybe a positive one or two.



Around dinner time for Kanamits.

Hugin

(37,444 posts)
9. If intelligence is the product it seems to me that investing in say early childhood education would give...
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 09:54 PM
Thursday

More bang for the buck. What’s that cost? Around five billion a year for all the sop those thirsty minds can soak.

Infinitely adaptable and they are powered mainly by sugar and stimulating environments. That’s just me. These people have crypto, so they must know what they are doing. Right?

usonian

(23,585 posts)
10. Education is mostly un-education.
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 10:18 PM
Thursday

Collaboration, essential to success in work and life, is "cheating"

There is only ONE correct answer or means, whereas the perl motto is TMTOWTDI

There's more than one way to do it.

Authoritarianism.

Offbeat ideas (we call them creativity, genius and entrepreneurism) are BANNED.

And since I went to school, iron fences and gates. Preparation for prison.

Walter F. Hendricks (1) was creating colleges, not megachurch celebs.

Big Brother (2) was a kiddie show personality, not the government iron ruler.


But I digress. 🎓

(1) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_F._Hendricks

(2) https://www.massbroadcastershof.org/hall-of-fame/hall-of-fame-2010/bob-emery/

mwmisses4289

(3,243 posts)
2. I don't think people would have a problem with data centers
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 01:37 PM
Thursday

if it wasn't for the fact that tech bros pushing them want to publicize the costs, but privatize the profits (if any).
They are asking ordinary folks to give up access to water and electricity to run these monster centers that take up more space than the original main frame computers of the early 1960's.

usonian

(23,585 posts)
5. Compare something like this with a "microscopic" IBM 360 from the good old days.
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 03:32 PM
Thursday


I can't tell if this is a photo or AI generated, but it at least gives the kind of scale we are talking about (OpenAI)

reference:
https://geekflare.com/news/openai-is-building-a-massive-new-ai-data-center-across-the-u-s/

mwmisses4289

(3,243 posts)
6. Yes.
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 03:36 PM
Thursday

We used to think that main frames that took up part of the wing of a building were huge, but they were nothing compared to this bigger is better mindset these tech bros seem to have.

usonian

(23,585 posts)
11. Thanks for the kick.
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 10:26 PM
Thursday

We really have a chance to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory on this issue.

I'd call party HQ but they are attacking the shrimp cocktail. (ON ICE)



I WANT FIGHTERS



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