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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsKristi Noem doxxed the ICE murderer.
8 second clip in which she IDs Ross as having been dragged by a car in June, 6 months ago. The Minneapolis Star Tribune took it from there.
Jesus these people are stupid.
Link to tweet
?s=46&t=3VBm1LJ8j8qLp6JTs_8J2A
malaise
(295,392 posts)Good
AZJonnie
(3,640 posts)While his partners in crime swarmed in from the drivers side screaming at an innocent US citizen exercising their constitutional rights to "get out of the fucking car". Dude had ALREADY pulled a stupid move around moving vehicles, just 6 months before.
If what Noem is saying is even true in the first place, this particular tidbit is the OPPOSITE of exculpatory, rather it provides MOTIVE.
Good job, KKKristi!
underpants
(196,154 posts)Yeah this is pretty telling about literally being any warm body. 6 months?
No evaluation? Down time? Normal HR stuff Id think law enforcement or not.
I said yesterday that he looked like he was chomping at the bit. He really was.
MineralMan
(151,113 posts)I'd laugh, but that wouldn't be polite.
malaise
(295,392 posts)😀
MineralMan
(151,113 posts)😀
underpants
(196,154 posts)I posted earlier that he apparently got 33 stitches from the first instance.
Just put him back out there I guess.
Johonny
(26,060 posts)Which was nice of her.
lastlib
(28,105 posts)Politesse escapes me at this moment.
Krusty Noem is a stupid lying silo-load of dysenteric whaleshit.
Moostache
(11,143 posts)Learn something new all the time!
Marcuse
(8,967 posts)

Skittles
(171,249 posts)no way would she have lasted any amount of time in the IT world I worked int
no_hypocrisy
(54,813 posts)From Title 1, U.S. DOJ Policy on Use of Force:
"Firearms may not be discharged solely to disable moving vehicles. Specifically, firearms may not be discharged at a moving vehicle unless: (1) a person in the vehicle is threatening the officer or another person with deadly force by means other than the vehicle; or (2) the vehicle is operated in a manner that threatens to cause death or serious physical injury ... and no other objectively reasonable means of defense appear to exist, which includes moving out of the path of the vehicle."
Also, placing oneself in the path of a moving vehicle constitutes officer-created jeopardy and undermines any claim that deadly force was necessary.
BurnDoubt
(1,640 posts)Lack of training or proper supervision as well as any evidence this person has the mental capacity and the psychological makeup to handle complex interactions in a professional manner. Im sure willingness to do violence and an abiding hatred of WOKE and fealty to a Tyrant was all the resume they needed. Unqualified and unprincipled is the demographic they are sifting for.
Im sure they DID get a chalk-talk about Warrior Ethos" and Masculine Superiority and pumped-full of hate speech and bravado. You know, The Sayings Of Secretary Of DEFENCE" Shit-For Brains, to the beat of chest-thumping.
Toxic Masculinity writ in Spades, literally.
And KKKristi shes their poster-child for Equal Rights. Women CAN be just as Evil and Deplorable as the Worst Toxic Male.
Congratulations.
Conjuay
(3,049 posts)We can't confirm or deny anything she claims about his previous actions because he was a masked and unidentified felon then as well.
flashman13
(2,341 posts)erronis
(23,625 posts)SSJVegeta
(2,772 posts)paleotn
(22,104 posts)It's normal for sane, rational people to think that. Then we quickly discover no, that isn't the case. They're dumber than fucking fence posts. Really, the only thing we have going for us right now.
marble falls
(71,724 posts)paleotn
(22,104 posts)underpants
(196,154 posts)Noem especially. Everythings Miller down to political operatives.
Shipwack
(3,049 posts)However
niyad
(131,885 posts)underpants
(196,154 posts)God this would be hilarious if it wasnt about such a tragic event.
paleotn
(22,104 posts)Gee thanks, Botox moron!!!
Kid Berwyn
(24,157 posts)...what they don't understand...
...who they don't know...
...how it doesn't profit them...
underpants
(196,154 posts)He was so fueled with rage (I mean aside from firing three rounds in the middle of a residential street) that he didnt process that someone was basically in the line of fire?
Kid Berwyn
(24,157 posts)Automatic hate as muscle memory that overrides frontal lobe processing in sending messaging commands. The guy had his hands full, filming the arrest scene with one hand and grabbing his semiautomatic with the other. Think it was Glenn Kirschner who asked if his body cam was on.
vapor2
(4,380 posts)Shooting someone in the head 3 times should land him in jail for years. The continued lawlessness befuddles me
Iggo
(49,884 posts)Kid Berwyn
(24,157 posts)When panic arises, I try to use what critical faculties I can muster to find a way forward.
LOL. Like it helps.
Just Jerome
(486 posts)Now go shit in your hat.
marble falls
(71,724 posts)Bluetus
(2,680 posts)It is a normal size hat. It is just that her brain is so tiny, it looks like the hat is resting on her shoulders.
marble falls
(71,724 posts)W_HAMILTON
(10,306 posts)Cha
(318,631 posts)So he's a Trigger Happy Homicidal Maniac... Needs to be put away in Prison.
TY
marble falls
(71,724 posts)Klarkashton
(5,242 posts)That matters more than his identity I guess.
underpants
(196,154 posts)Is there any actual management at ICE/DHS?
Klarkashton
(5,242 posts)Shooting from the hip. They have been underthinking this thing from the start.
underpants
(196,154 posts)Their hubris makes Dick&W look like hopeful teenagers at a dance.
He cant be wrong. Theres no way he can ever be wrong. Very dangerous.
carpetbagger
(5,479 posts)I said that in more words below.
Attilatheblond
(8,750 posts)The goons don't understand what the job is LEGALLY. They are just happy to be overpaid to act on their untreated mental problems
11 Bravo
(24,304 posts)smoking Corey Lewandowski's pole, and less time murdering Minnesota moms.
Just a thought.
tazcat
(276 posts)Hassler
(4,900 posts)Why should she care about a killer goon when she can easily find another magat goon.
mysteryowl
(9,268 posts)Norbert
(7,726 posts)surfered
(13,105 posts)Ms. Toad
(38,537 posts)I found a different ICE agent who was dragged by a car. That agent killed the driver. (
)SunSeeker
(58,204 posts)But as the video points out, Viegas Gonzalez had no criminal record, just a few speeding tickets, the last one in 2014.
Now make his life hell.
carpetbagger
(5,479 posts)Sounds like this guy had a Shawinigan Handshake moment (look it up, it's pretty funny in that case because the guy lived), a cop in a rogue force with ptsd from his experience and nobody trying to mitigate it, and the guy snapped in a predictable situation.
I will change my opinion about this if evidence shows the guy to be a total bad seed vs. an average bad seed of ICE.
underpants
(196,154 posts)We may never know if he is indeed a bad seed. I kinda hope he is but from what Ive seen , theres quite a culture of violence.
AntiFascist
(13,751 posts)then they will have a better excuse to advance their invasion and ultimately declare martial law. Noem probably wants to put him out there as a pawn.
Gov. Walz has already activated the National Guard. He has talked about using the Guard to protect against "a rogue ICE agent" and has also suggested it may be necessary to use armed guards to protect children at certain schools. Meanwhile, there should be plenty of support for a civil suit in state court against the murderer.
Warpy
(114,555 posts)but one will get her fired while the other will get her appreciated.
Now it's time for people who can see well enough to do the job to search the perp's history for ties to various flavors of fascist good ole boy clubs.
I can foresee a day when putting "ICE Agent" oin a resumé disqualifies them on the spot from any job that allows them to carry a gun.
Attilatheblond
(8,750 posts)creon
(2,064 posts)It is a kakistocracy.
A Kasistocracy that is assaultive, vindictive and gormless.
The Blue Flower
(6,463 posts)Stupid is the other side of the coin from incompetent narcissist.
underpants
(196,154 posts)Attilatheblond
(8,750 posts)in hopes someone will take him down and give her an excuse to unleash them all on the population. It would get her a lot of brownie points with the Felon In Chief.
Dave Bowman
(7,093 posts)Ranting Randy
(429 posts)Mysterian
(6,388 posts)when the rule of law is re-established in the U.S.A.
Native
(7,346 posts)I'm honestly surprised it took as long as it did. They really are a whole new level of stupid.
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