Why, if they were blocking the middle of the street, did they not prevent cars from entering the roadway that would be unable to get through or turn around?

He will go to prison for this

He would have killed her for getting out of the car too. As soon as he focused on her, he planned to kill her.

It was premeditated.

But now that everyone knows his name and can track him down, justice is going to happen one way or another. The federal government not holding him accountable just means a private citizen is, and its not going to be pretty.

would just create another right wing martyr. Trump would build a mausoleum for this guy in the middle of DC. We do not need a Horst Wessel.

And once he's convicted under state law, Schlump won't be able to do a thing. That's the scenario I'm rooting for.

Looking to hire people with a predisposition to violence. They got what they were looking for and the people in charge love the outcome.

It’s a requirement to be bat shit crazy to join the gop.

If you ask Noem or Vance or Patel, they will say because it was pre-determined she was a domestic terrorist where all laws don't apply.

He should have been taking in the totality of the situation instead of walking forward along the right side of the car while looking at his phone screen. I do not think he had coherent thoughts. I think his act of firing his sidearm was done impulsively. However, I can understand the opinion of other DUers who think his actions were premeditated.

I think he had a predisposition that got him into trouble, based on his past experiences – I've read that in a similar, previous incident, he'd been injured when he was dragged by a car for 100 yards – and feeling empowered by Trumpian rhetoric, etc. And I think he was angry over his past experience and her noncompliance and determined not to let her get away.

He probably shouldn't have been allowed to continue as an ICE agent.

That said, if it's important to stop people in cars, why can't ICE agents aim for the car tires, engine, or the person's shoulder? Or just check the license plate and arrest her later?

probably would be to tell her to turn off the engine, put her hands where he can see them, and slowly exit the vehicle. You rarely see a cop open the car door or stick his hands inside the window (which is why Jonathan Ross had been dragged in a previous incident) .

Of course, in a more realistic scenario, she would have been told to move her vehicle because she's blocking the road and the officer would have waved her on.

How would you handle a POI who doesn't follow instructions but flees?
You have overwhelming force in the area.

Wouldn't the real police call in the problem and ask for support apprehending? The vehicle could easily be id'd if it wasn't already, and it should be possible to block / trail the vehicle.

though probably not as much fun for these gun-totting cop wannabes. I wish more actual police officers would speak out about how poorly trained these agents are and explain how experienced, well trained officers would handle such situations.

If the agent hadn't chose to jump on the trunk and try to hang on, he wouldn't have gotten hurt. Who he was he trying to pretend he was? John Mclane in Diehard, or Martin Riggs in Lethal Weapon?

They had the make of the car. Like they couldn't have tracked the driver down even, if he drove away? Did he really think he was going to be able to stop the guy, by hanging onto the car? I guess even though he was a "trained agent," he wasn't immune to engaging in fantasy role play.

it is dangerous to stick your head or hands inside the vehicle. The driver or passenger could be armed or the car could start pulling away. Better to let the car drive away and take their plate number.

That's the sort of trick shot stuff that Hollywood has perpetuated in action movies and things like that. Any shooting course will teach to aim for center mass.

He shouldn't have had his gun out to begin with. I'm going by memory but I don't think any of the other agents had their weapons drawn. Even if they did, they definitely shouldn't have fired.

That said, the video captured by the shooter sure makes it seem like the car hit him. It sounds like an impact and a grunt and the image wobbles. I have a sneaky feeling they're going to lean on that as justification for the shooting, unfortunately.

Why did he want to stop her from leaving? I thought ice wanted them to leave.

they were going to arrest her.

I don't understand the timeline of what Good was/was not doing that morning. did she drop off her kid AND block ICE vehicles? I don't know.

"they" have already drawn the conclusion that she was a domestic terrorist that was "cat and mouse" blocking ICE vehicles and was a threat. that's the narrative that needs to be conclusively discredited.

There are license plates on her vehicle.

Keith Ellison, MN AG, said on Democracy Now this morning that the Goods were "observing" ICE that morning. which they're allowed to do.

the admin and their online hordes are seizing on that, contending the Goods were actively obstructing ICE vehicles and driving at ICE goons, and basically saying they deserved to be shot.

i don't understand what they were or weren't doing that morning, but regardless, i don't think it was necessary to shoot Renee Good in the face.

It all occured after she dropped her son off at school. Here is a timeline of the incident:

https://abcnews.go.com/US/minneapolis-ice-shooting-minute-minute-timeline-renee-nicole/story?id=129021809

I'm sure that won't settle anything in post-truth America, but I appreciate the link.

That shows it’s premeditated

When is that ever a good idea?

Real officers would start with a calm greeting and calmly ask questions, ask to see license and registration, maybe ask her to turn off the car, etc.

Trying to open the door as a first action is incredibly aggressive and unsurprisingly scared the crap out of her.

Ice basically created the situation they claimed they needed to kill to save themselves from,

Hitler's goons were hopped up on speed, and encouraged by their commanders to use it

He had years of training and ignored it all, letting his rage take over. He shot her to keep her from getting away, it's as simple as that.

First thing he did was draw his weapon.

And stood just enough in front of the vehicle so he could step out of the way if she attempted to drive away. Which she tried to do. He was locked and loaded, ready to murder her in an instant.

regarding the moments leading up to it. But? Not until and if she is ready to speak about it. Feel horrible for her. Thank god their son was not in the car.

I'd imagine the FBI is working her over in interviews.

around and hopefully lawyered up. You never know what the as$h@les have up their sleeves.

his gun drawn. I don't care about his supposed 10 years of working for them. Bottom line he comes off as a goon with an itchy trigger finger looking for an excuse to kill. Look at his reaction afterward. Never a more "I could care less" reaction have I ever seen.

he on the job? Placing himself stupidly by a car? Arghhhh

He was calm. He wanted to kill someone so he did.

during and after. It was weird, I thought, how he walked over to the car after shooting her and then walked back calmly up the street and got into a car and drove off.

He called her a 'fucking bitch' right afterwards.

His wife gets beat on the regular. He's that type of demon.

When you have a hammer, everything looks like a nail.

Basically in the line of fire.

for no particular reason. Except to intimidate the public.

They're all a bunch of wanna be Rambos.

biggest cowards on the planet