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Donald Trump ordered JSOC to plan an invasion of Greenland, but senior military leaders and joint chiefs resisted, citing legality and lack of Congressional support.
US President Donald Trump has ordered his special forces commanders to prepare a plan for the invasion of Greenland though the plan has been resisted by senior military figures.
The Daily Mail quoted the sources saying the President has asked the Joint Special Operations Command (JSOC) to prepare the invasion plan, but it is being resisted by the joint chiefs of staff on the grounds that it would be illegal and would not be supported by Congress.
They have tried to distract Trump by talking about less controversial measures, such as intercepting Russian ghost ships a clandestine network of hundreds of vessels operated by Moscow to evade Western sanctions or launching a strike on Iran," one of the sources said.
The sources said that the plan, led by political adviser Stephen Miller, has been formulated after the success of the operation to capture Venezuelan leader Nicolas Maduro and they aim to seize the island before Russia or China makes a move.
However, The Daily Mail quoted British diplomats saying that Trump is also motivated by a desire to distract American voters from the performance of the US economy before the mid-term elections later this year, after which he could lose control of Congress to the Democrats.
This comes days after Trump renewed his threat to own the territory.
https://www.news18.com/world/trump-orders-special-forces-to-prepare-plan-to-invade-greenland-report-ws-l-9823013.html
Jim__
(15,084 posts)Dave Bowman
(6,686 posts)chicoescuela
(2,650 posts)yellow dahlia
(4,607 posts)The decision to go to war rests with you. Time to do your job.
Totally Tunsie
(11,584 posts)Call the goon squad. He's nuts and it's time to stop pandering to him.
Fiendish Thingy
(22,071 posts)There have been plans for WWIII for decades, and plans to invade Canada for almost as long.
They are contingency plans, so if the need arises, and the order is given, the military wont be caught unprepared..
Second of all, the source is the Daily Mail, the original clickbait before there were clicks.
I believe theres a good chance that if Trump attacks Greenland he will be impeached and removed from office, by Republicans if it happens before the midterms.
Cha
(316,893 posts)Wish!
lame54
(39,216 posts)LudwigPastorius
(14,198 posts)That's called 'closing the barn door after the horse has bolted'.
If Trump invades Greenland, that breaks the NATO alliance.
angrychair
(11,709 posts)The EU has, is clear and unambiguous terms, stated that they will go to war to defend Greenland.
Norway has already stated that Norwegian forces have standing orders to repel any attack on Greenland with any and all force necessary.
Canada and Mexico has also implied they would side with Greenland and that EU. So have a couple other South American countries.
It will be a full blown world war on multiple fronts.
Fiendish Thingy
(22,071 posts)They have used diplomatic weasel words to imply they would be severely disgruntled if such an attack were to take place.
Not even Denmark has said they would respond with force to such an attack.
The EU has only said, clearly and unambiguously, that an attack by the US would mean the end of NATO.
Greenland themselves (not Norway) have said their troops have standing orders to respond to any incursion with deadly force without waiting for orders from superiors.
If Canada and the EU were truly serious about dissuading Trump from attacking Greenland, they would have already deployed several thousand troops there, along with planes, ships, and a nuclear armed sub- that would shut Trump right up.
Disaffected
(6,168 posts)to invade just about anywhere. And yeah, the Daily Mail...
Ilikepurple
(437 posts)First of all, totally normal cuz we do it all the time. Secondly, its probably not true cuz of the source. But if it was, nothing to see here. Trump is just making sure that if his need to invade Greenland arises, the military will not be unprepared. Also if this invasion I dont believe will happen happens, the Rs will give us President JD.
It must be nice to have direct access to facts plus the answers to all the various counterfactuals.
MorbidButterflyTat
(4,201 posts)if a Democrat had done this.
Has anyone asked why the fuck an "invasion" is necessary? Because the baby wants to "own" it?
This is cool: They have tried to distract Piggy by talking about less controversial measures, such as....launching a strike on Iran..."
What the actual fuck.
Maybe someone could "distract" the psycho baby by throwing a Big Mac and Filet O'Fish at him.
Better yet, distract him with handcuffs and leg shackles and take Nosferatu with him.
Attilatheblond
(8,317 posts)and then they might re-negotiate their pre-nup
BurnDoubt
(1,486 posts)BurnDoubt
(1,486 posts)AND YEP!!!!!!!!!
H2O Man
(78,650 posts)BlueSpot
(1,247 posts)And then the 25th. Should have happened much sooner. I have more to say but don't want to be deleted or banned.
Historic NY
(39,669 posts)SeattleVet
(5,834 posts)You can't convince me that they aren't keeping him apprised of what they're trying frantically to redact, and it's scaring the shit out of him.
CatWoman
(80,243 posts)leftstreet
(38,869 posts)Attilatheblond
(8,317 posts)BidenRocks
(2,788 posts)It's coming for you Donnie!
Hear the footsteps!!
Die!
Ms. Toad
(38,311 posts)It's this being reported by any reputable source?
SamuelTheThird
(601 posts)Arazi
(8,709 posts)Beyond that though, the Daily Mail has been weirdly plugged into Pentagon reporting.
Any US special forces invasion of Greenland would need staging at a Canadian or British base which makes me wonder if some British military staff got roped into preliminary planning.
The paper is owned by a member of British royalty. Not sure what connection that might have. Just a weird factoid
flvegan
(65,793 posts)DJ Synikus Makisimus
(1,188 posts)They weren't nice enough to Donnie, so they need to pay. Does he get that Noble Prize now?
USA! USA! USA!
What a shithole country the USA is. It's know this because it's the only place in the known universe that elected Trump President. Twice.
Bayard
(28,626 posts)Honest question--Would they consider sending troops into the U.S., or even bombing us?
DetroitLegalBeagle
(2,465 posts)As they dont really have the means to do so in any meaningful way. Their ability to move personnel and equipment any distance from Europe is very limited, and under combat situations and tempo, even more limited.
Ford_Prefect
(8,514 posts)the law. Special Forces are for specific limited engagements of a particular target, not a national invasion.
IMO Mr. Miller needs to come before Congress and 'splain a few things. Like how an unelected presidential aide such as he decided how and when to invade a sovereign ally and fellow member of NATO, AND how it is he is giving orders to military leaders to prepare for an immediate war.
The last time I looked it was the responsibility of the President to consult with Congress and the Senate over such matters PRIOR to engaging in a war and to seek their approval of such PRIOR to putting members of the forces in harm's way and risking the good faith of the American people, as well as that of our friends and allies.
Mr. Miller has already a reputation for exaggeration, and for an exotic interpretation of US law and history. It would be wise of him to get Congressional approval under the law rather than risk serious legal consequences, not to say personal humiliation.
orangecrush
(28,512 posts)Uncle Joe
(64,250 posts)Thanks for the thread CatWoman
orangecrush
(28,512 posts)mjvpi
(1,886 posts)spanone
(141,035 posts)GusBob
(8,136 posts)That might be needed
SKKY
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