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rampartd

(4,132 posts)
Sun Jan 11, 2026, 03:51 AM Jan 11

who is really in charge?

trump and his cabinet are not making decisions. no way no how. these guys are front men.

but somebody is giving them their scripts. who?


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putin / kremlin
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boris nayfeld
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gangsers , casa nostra, some kind of cartel etc
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freemason/illuminati/skull&bones
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grok
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tech/ crypto billionaire gamers
1 (4%)
the deep state/ pentagon
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other
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combinations of the above
18 (69%)
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who is really in charge? (Original Post) rampartd Jan 11 OP
I would vote "combinations of the above", but ... Mike Niendorff Jan 11 #1
i considered the fundies rampartd Jan 11 #2
Putin, Billionaires, and Bettie Jan 11 #3
i think of the flamboyant christian as someone rampartd Jan 11 #6
I still don't understand how Bettie Jan 11 #8
Melania SocialDemocrat61 Jan 11 #4
No one is in charge Johonny Jan 11 #5
Stephen Miller. OldBaldy1701E Jan 11 #7

Mike Niendorff

(3,644 posts)
1. I would vote "combinations of the above", but ...
Sun Jan 11, 2026, 07:04 AM
Jan 11

... but there are a lot of options in there that I really don't think are in the mix.

If I had to seriously answer, I'd say this:

* Putin, and his gangster circles
* MBS, and his gangster circles
* a trans-national circle of billionaires (Musk, Thiel, Adelson, Koch, etc), with Musk in particular trying to establish control over "the means of communication" so that he can control *dialog* on literally everything, and so he can advantage/disadvantage state-level actors to elevate them or diminish them at will. This will not end well for Musk.
* Organized crime -- whoever Trump has been working with since his early days (and probably his daddy's days). Trace out the groups Trump lifts up -- and those he pushes down -- and it's a roadmap to which criminal organizations he's directly involved with. And there are lots. And yes, they are 100% involved in child-trafficking.
* American Evangelical Churches -- the new homebase of the klan, neo-segregationists, Nazis, and general racists of all types, bound by a shared "end times" (black pill / accellerationist) ideology and a pure hatred of anyone culturally or physically different from themselves. Notably absent are any actual teachings even slightly resembling Christianity. These are "culture war" and "end times" churches -- and they have money, followers, private/segregated schools, and are tax-advantaged to the point of criminality.

And yeah, there are lots of others.

But these are the ones I really see pulling the strings -- or at least as the "big strings" that themselves get pulled and played by the real top guys.

Now, don't get me started on their money networks, their recruitment networks, their *massive* propaganda operations ... yeah, way to much to cover in a late-night off-the-cuff post like this. I'm sure others will do way better, so I leave it to them.


MDN

rampartd

(4,132 posts)
2. i considered the fundies
Sun Jan 11, 2026, 08:28 AM
Jan 11

and he does do things for them, roe vs wade for 1

but i really think he controls the preachers with , well mostly kompromat but he will bribe them as well.

putin, , of course, and the russian mob, but i wonder if the bratva and putin aren't very close.

are there any ice agents working brighton beach?

Bettie

(19,410 posts)
3. Putin, Billionaires, and
Sun Jan 11, 2026, 09:24 AM
Jan 11

the flamboyantly "Christian"....you know, the ones who follow zero tenets of the religion they claim, while declaring that Jesus would hate anyone who wasn't white and male.

rampartd

(4,132 posts)
6. i think of the flamboyant christian as someone
Sun Jan 11, 2026, 09:59 AM
Jan 11

that trump has a video of with the pool boy.

i blame their end times fixation for many of our troubles.


"why bother about the environment if jesus is coming to clean that all up?"

Bettie

(19,410 posts)
8. I still don't understand how
Sun Jan 11, 2026, 11:07 AM
Jan 11

They believe that end times stuff.

But,I was booted out of Sunday school at 13 for questioning what they were teaching.

Johonny

(25,719 posts)
5. No one is in charge
Sun Jan 11, 2026, 09:55 AM
Jan 11

And that's why it's a shitshow as subordinates run rough shot over our country. This is Trumps payback for not.loving him despite him being unlovable.

OldBaldy1701E

(10,571 posts)
7. Stephen Miller.
Sun Jan 11, 2026, 10:06 AM
Jan 11

He is the slime behind all of this domestic terror. He is the one trying to destroy our relations with countries that are more prone to democratic thinking and trying to curry favor with what is going to become the 'New Axis'.

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