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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forumswho is really in charge?
trump and his cabinet are not making decisions. no way no how. these guys are front men.
but somebody is giving them their scripts. who?
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Mike Niendorff
(3,641 posts)... but there are a lot of options in there that I really don't think are in the mix.
If I had to seriously answer, I'd say this:
* Putin, and his gangster circles
* MBS, and his gangster circles
* a trans-national circle of billionaires (Musk, Thiel, Adelson, Koch, etc), with Musk in particular trying to establish control over "the means of communication" so that he can control *dialog* on literally everything, and so he can advantage/disadvantage state-level actors to elevate them or diminish them at will. This will not end well for Musk.
* Organized crime -- whoever Trump has been working with since his early days (and probably his daddy's days). Trace out the groups Trump lifts up -- and those he pushes down -- and it's a roadmap to which criminal organizations he's directly involved with. And there are lots. And yes, they are 100% involved in child-trafficking.
* American Evangelical Churches -- the new homebase of the klan, neo-segregationists, Nazis, and general racists of all types, bound by a shared "end times" (black pill / accellerationist) ideology and a pure hatred of anyone culturally or physically different from themselves. Notably absent are any actual teachings even slightly resembling Christianity. These are "culture war" and "end times" churches -- and they have money, followers, private/segregated schools, and are tax-advantaged to the point of criminality.
And yeah, there are lots of others.
But these are the ones I really see pulling the strings -- or at least as the "big strings" that themselves get pulled and played by the real top guys.
Now, don't get me started on their money networks, their recruitment networks, their *massive* propaganda operations ... yeah, way to much to cover in a late-night off-the-cuff post like this. I'm sure others will do way better, so I leave it to them.
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rampartd
(3,856 posts)and he does do things for them, roe vs wade for 1
but i really think he controls the preachers with , well mostly kompromat but he will bribe them as well.
putin, , of course, and the russian mob, but i wonder if the bratva and putin aren't very close.
are there any ice agents working brighton beach?
Bettie
(19,296 posts)the flamboyantly "Christian"....you know, the ones who follow zero tenets of the religion they claim, while declaring that Jesus would hate anyone who wasn't white and male.
rampartd
(3,856 posts)that trump has a video of with the pool boy.
i blame their end times fixation for many of our troubles.
"why bother about the environment if jesus is coming to clean that all up?"
Bettie
(19,296 posts)They believe that end times stuff.
But,I was booted out of Sunday school at 13 for questioning what they were teaching.
SocialDemocrat61
(6,872 posts)Johonny
(25,506 posts)And that's why it's a shitshow as subordinates run rough shot over our country. This is Trumps payback for not.loving him despite him being unlovable.
OldBaldy1701E
(10,225 posts)He is the slime behind all of this domestic terror. He is the one trying to destroy our relations with countries that are more prone to democratic thinking and trying to curry favor with what is going to become the 'New Axis'.