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mountain grammy

(28,778 posts)
Sun Jan 11, 2026, 02:33 PM Jan 11

He shot her in the face

And then growled “you fucking bitch “as the car moved away. Maybe the last words she heard.

How many women have heard the words “you fucking bitch” screamed in their face right before a fist, or worse, slams into them?

I’ll go first. Me 😢 if you can answer you survived. The latest victim of state sponsored violence did not.

men are afraid women will laugh at them. Women are afraid men will kill them.. The Handmaids Tale

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He shot her in the face (Original Post) mountain grammy Jan 11 OP
Has anyone else had their anxiety triple with the murder of Renee Good? vapor2 Jan 11 #1
How about a hug? Trailrider1951 Jan 11 #3
Yes. mountain grammy Jan 11 #8
My anxiety soared when the Orange Hellbeast attacked a sovereign nation and abducted their head of state. ShazzieB Jan 11 #27
I needed this Joinfortmill Jan 11 #31
I'm exactly there, SB. Anyone can join, just BYOBlanket. littlemissmartypants Jan 12 #45
That video. mountain grammy Jan 12 #50
I have heard it for many different reasons, was raised with it. MuseRider Jan 11 #2
Yep mountain grammy Jan 11 #10
That man is a domestic abuser sboatcar Jan 11 #4
Sure not the actions of an innocent man. mountain grammy Jan 11 #5
Me, right before I hit the wall with abdominal staples dehisced Maru Kitteh Jan 11 #6
You're still here mountain grammy Jan 11 #7
You too MG. You too. Maru Kitteh Jan 11 #9
How awful, Maru Kitteh. My heart breaks for you. MIButterfly Jan 11 #19
Thank you for your kind MuseRider Jan 11 #39
"We know what we see when we see it." Silver Gaia Jan 12 #43
The real question is xmas74 Jan 11 #11
Well.. stillspkg Jan 11 #15
This is why my ex-husband is my ex..... Bayard Jan 11 #33
I'm so sorry mountain grammy. Scrivener7 Jan 11 #12
Thank you mountain grammy Jan 11 #16
That doesn't go away. No matter how long ago. Scrivener7 Jan 11 #17
It's a common phrase spoken by weak men... LuckyCharms Jan 11 #13
It is a common phrase popsdenver Jan 12 #54
I hope i say this right Srkdqltr Jan 11 #14
You just did MuseRider Jan 11 #40
Say it with me: BurnDoubt Jan 11 #18
Me, moved on, survived, and surpassed. I saw it again in tRump when he first ran for office, txwhitedove Jan 11 #20
Hugs to all of us who have had to listen to this verbal hateful abuse. Clouds Passing Jan 11 #21
the only time I heard YOU FUCKING BITCH Skittles Jan 11 #22
👍 mountain grammy Jan 11 #28
Yes, a very long time ago. Joinfortmill Jan 11 #23
Dead!? We'll be lucky if they don't apotheosize him! nt Wednesdays Jan 11 #32
Post today from JoJoFromJerz erronis Jan 11 #24
That's a good read. Highly recommend it underpants Jan 11 #29
Great piece mountain grammy Jan 11 #37
Yes. Thank you for sharing this with us. Silver Gaia Jan 12 #44
Thanks Cirsium Jan 12 #53
I've re-read her (JoJo's) piece several times and these paragraphs exemplify her writing. erronis Jan 12 #56
I am very lucky. I have been called that a number of times, as well as niyad Jan 11 #25
Every time I've been called that... Pacifist Patriot Jan 11 #26
This may be the reason why this incident resonates with so many Wednesdays Jan 11 #30
If that asshole murderer doesn't beat his wife, there ain't a cow in Texas. raccoon Jan 11 #34
This is the first time I've heard this aspect of the murder Bayard Jan 11 #35
I was putting gas in my car and a truck Zackzzzz Jan 11 #36
Thank you for this mountain Grammy. democrank Jan 11 #38
My neighbor calls me that though not to my face. He just tells everyone Raine Jan 11 #41
So very sad for all those who have been on the receiving end of violent, ugly words. summer_in_TX Jan 12 #42
My first marriage was a short one, not even a year. ... littlemissmartypants Jan 12 #46
She did not hear those words. He needlessly & illegally shot her point blank inches away. But it's telling that he.. themaguffin Jan 12 #47
Here's My Theory DallasNE Jan 12 #48
I made a lot more money - the marriage lasted 2 years TBF Jan 12 #49
The instant I learned what that murderer said Grammy23 Jan 12 #51
I've called all my reps to demand mountain grammy Jan 12 #55
"Men are afraid women will laugh at them. Women are afraid men will kill them." - Margaret Atwood Ocelot II Jan 12 #52

vapor2

(4,045 posts)
1. Has anyone else had their anxiety triple with the murder of Renee Good?
Sun Jan 11, 2026, 02:39 PM
Jan 11

Mine has after seeing her face and believing the fbi will cover this up. Along with his constant threats of taking Greenland (fuck Stephen Miller ). I really could use Xanax right now.

ShazzieB

(22,313 posts)
27. My anxiety soared when the Orange Hellbeast attacked a sovereign nation and abducted their head of state.
Sun Jan 11, 2026, 04:44 PM
Jan 11

Last edited Sun Jan 11, 2026, 11:20 PM - Edit history (1)

Then the murder in Minneapolis made it soar even higher until my mental health suddenly did a barrel roll and then nosedived toward the ground. Fortunately I was able to regain control of the craft before it crashed and burned.

Living in America these days is exhausting. This is how I feel right now:

MuseRider

(35,160 posts)
2. I have heard it for many different reasons, was raised with it.
Sun Jan 11, 2026, 02:57 PM
Jan 11

All above. Catching a bit of it now so I think I will stop here. There are days when I just can't shut up. KWIM?

sboatcar

(770 posts)
4. That man is a domestic abuser
Sun Jan 11, 2026, 03:02 PM
Jan 11

He checks all the boxes. I worry for his wife.


So rumor has it, immediately after the shooting, he went home (not to the hospital), and started packing, and within an hour or so, a line of SUVs showed up and he threw a bunch of boxes into them, then got in his own truck and was escorted away, and no one has seen him or his wife ever since. They're probably in a luxury bungalo at Mar a Lago right now.

Maru Kitteh

(31,363 posts)
6. Me, right before I hit the wall with abdominal staples dehisced
Sun Jan 11, 2026, 03:12 PM
Jan 11

and broken ribs. Three days after giving birth.



Too many of us have been through it. We know what we see when we see it.



MuseRider

(35,160 posts)
39. Thank you for your kind
Sun Jan 11, 2026, 07:03 PM
Jan 11

response to my post.

I missed some I am certain but I love and appreciate you all.

It feels like a blanket here.

stillspkg

(171 posts)
15. Well..
Sun Jan 11, 2026, 03:44 PM
Jan 11

I am angry with those who have, even as I have never been called that. It is shocking when I hear of it and I don't ever want it to become normal. I stand with my sisters and brothers. Women deserve better and men should be held accountable for violent language,

Bayard

(28,929 posts)
33. This is why my ex-husband is my ex.....
Sun Jan 11, 2026, 05:25 PM
Jan 11

I've heard it from other sources too, though. Usually men who feel threatened by a strong woman.

LuckyCharms

(22,146 posts)
13. It's a common phrase spoken by weak men...
Sun Jan 11, 2026, 03:41 PM
Jan 11

when they realize that a woman is stronger than he is.

I'm so sorry for what you went through. I know that doesn't help anything, but I'm truly sorry.

popsdenver

(1,832 posts)
54. It is a common phrase
Mon Jan 12, 2026, 12:53 PM
Jan 12

the is a common phrase spoken by weak men, who are grossly insecure, with small dicks, carrying massive firepower and now, with the Backing of the Trump/Republican CABAL, they all are free to act out in anyway they wish.

I think they should be rounded up, with all their battle garb and assault weapons, and parachuted into a war zone, in a foreign country, and we can watch them all hide and cry when confronted by REAL men, who shoot back........

Srkdqltr

(9,480 posts)
14. I hope i say this right
Sun Jan 11, 2026, 03:43 PM
Jan 11

I have never in my 84 years been subjected to that sort of treatment.
My heart breaks for those of you who have.
I would love to hug you all and take away all that hurt.

txwhitedove

(4,353 posts)
20. Me, moved on, survived, and surpassed. I saw it again in tRump when he first ran for office,
Sun Jan 11, 2026, 03:57 PM
Jan 11

and told everyone not to vote for him.

Skittles

(170,080 posts)
22. the only time I heard YOU FUCKING BITCH
Sun Jan 11, 2026, 04:21 PM
Jan 11

was when I smashed the toes of a pervert with my combat boot

yes indeed

Cirsium

(3,551 posts)
53. Thanks
Mon Jan 12, 2026, 12:28 PM
Jan 12

Excerpt:

And that speed is its own kind of confession. A woman is dead, and the machinery is already humming, gears grinding, scripts sliding into place, moving with the well-rehearsed urgency of a system that knows exactly how to shield a man with power while quietly laying the weight of it all back onto the woman he killed. It’s a reflex so old and so deeply trained into our politics you can almost hear it click into gear — close ranks, lock arms, protect the man, and if there’s any blame left over, make sure it lands on her.

We’ve seen it in Donald Trump, in the way he talks about women as if they’re props in his personal pageant, things to be graded, mocked, and publicly humiliated. Piggy. Dog. Stupid. Ugly. He bragged about grabbing women by the pussy and was rewarded with the highest office in the land. That kind of language doesn’t just vanish into the air. It settles into the soil. It seeps into the seams of culture. It teaches people, quietly and relentlessly, what they’re allowed to get away with.

When leaders model contempt for women, when they make cruelty look like confidence and dominance look like strength, it doesn’t stay confined to podiums and cable news. It leaks outward, into parking lots and traffic stops and ordinary moments where someone with a weapon decides a woman has crossed an invisible line simply by not shrinking.

Renee Good tried to live. She tried to speak. She tried to calm a situation that never should’ve existed in the first place. She offered the only things she had left in that moment — her voice, her steadiness, her refusal to let fear be the last word. And for that, she was killed, then blamed, then pressed into a story that made her death easier for powerful people to swallow, as if a woman’s life could be wrapped in official language and made to disappear.

erronis

(22,988 posts)
56. I've re-read her (JoJo's) piece several times and these paragraphs exemplify her writing.
Mon Jan 12, 2026, 02:29 PM
Jan 12

A clarion voice.

niyad

(130,285 posts)
25. I am very lucky. I have been called that a number of times, as well as
Sun Jan 11, 2026, 04:41 PM
Jan 11

the c-word (which, as I have posted previously, I proudly claim, knowing the origin) but physical violence never followed. For some reason, those trying to frighten and insult me have tended to be intimidated. The times someone did try, "you fucking bitch" was not part of it.

However, from many years of DV work, I know all too well that far too many other women have not been so fotunate.

Pacifist Patriot

(25,204 posts)
26. Every time I've been called that...
Sun Jan 11, 2026, 04:41 PM
Jan 11

I either feared for my physical safety or my career was sabotaged.

Men have no idea how dangerous it is to simply allow a man to experience his insecurities.

Wednesdays

(21,816 posts)
30. This may be the reason why this incident resonates with so many
Sun Jan 11, 2026, 04:58 PM
Jan 11

You're having an ordinary day, then *BAM* ... you're dead within milliseconds.

Something everybody fears in the back of their minds. But females, especially.

Zackzzzz

(307 posts)
36. I was putting gas in my car and a truck
Sun Jan 11, 2026, 05:38 PM
Jan 11

drove up on the other side. I looking at the gas meter
and the guy who was on the other side said to me,
"You're the reason the world is the way it is".
I looked behind me. Was he talking to me?
I turned back and said, "Who me"?
There has been worse, much worse.
But why the blanket hatred from men?

He was speaking from a comfortable space.
I stayed...until he drove off, first.

democrank

(12,350 posts)
38. Thank you for this mountain Grammy.
Sun Jan 11, 2026, 06:20 PM
Jan 11

This deadly incident….murder….caused by that brutal ICE agent and all the turmoil and chaos that followed felt like it blew me wide open. It brought back old feelings of terror and dread, of desperation . Those feelings and tears are just below the surface, as real as ever, .even after decades.

I’m sending a hug to anyone here that needs one.

Raine

(31,113 posts)
41. My neighbor calls me that though not to my face. He just tells everyone
Sun Jan 11, 2026, 08:08 PM
Jan 11

else that's what I am. I just laugh it off, I have my own words for him! No one has ever hit me, thank goodness.

summer_in_TX

(4,059 posts)
42. So very sad for all those who have been on the receiving end of violent, ugly words.
Mon Jan 12, 2026, 12:57 AM
Jan 12

The old wounds may have scabbed over, but this has broken many of them back open. Sending hugs to each of you.

littlemissmartypants

(32,505 posts)
46. My first marriage was a short one, not even a year. ...
Mon Jan 12, 2026, 08:59 AM
Jan 12

I was physically restrained and forced to spend my wedding night on the floor while he slept in the bed above me.

Every day after that was spent enduring physical and emotional abuse and planning my escape. If I had not been financially able I don't know if I would have survived.

themaguffin

(4,985 posts)
47. She did not hear those words. He needlessly & illegally shot her point blank inches away. But it's telling that he..
Mon Jan 12, 2026, 09:02 AM
Jan 12

said those words. She said kind words to him. He killed her and then called her a fucking bitch.

DallasNE

(7,980 posts)
48. Here's My Theory
Mon Jan 12, 2026, 09:42 AM
Jan 12

On the shooting. His 1st shot was not lethal, but his 2nd and 3rd were in the face, as she continued to watch him.

https://democraticunderground.com/10143596977#post31

TBF

(35,922 posts)
49. I made a lot more money - the marriage lasted 2 years
Mon Jan 12, 2026, 09:54 AM
Jan 12

having money is key to surviving, whether you work or friends help you.

And this guy Jonathan Ross - he is not just one ICE agent in Minnesota, he is everywhere in this country.

Grammy23

(6,099 posts)
51. The instant I learned what that murderer said
Mon Jan 12, 2026, 10:31 AM
Jan 12

Within moments after killing her, it was obvious he was livid and out for revenge. If he had been trained properly (or removed from the program for failing to be trained) he would know how to control his anger and his response to the situation. Sadly for Renee Good, he reacted in rage and shot her point blank and ended her life in an instant. He reacted in anger and on impulse shot her dead.

That should throw cold fear into the heart of all of us. Not just women, people of color or those who may be protesting (legally or within our constitutional rights). ANYONE who gets within range of monsters like the ICE agent who killed Renee should be forewarned that they could be the next national headline. It is meant to have a chilling effect on those of us who protest or speak up about what is going on.

If Congress and others with the power to investigate this situation do not act immediately, we are done as the nation we thought we were. Since Trump retook office last year, they have been on a quest to destroy the USA as we know it. They have moved swiftly and relentlessly to overwhelm us with fear, strongman tactics and rhetoric. Now they are using outright murder to get their point across. If this does not push Congress into action, I do not know what will.

Ocelot II

(129,659 posts)
52. "Men are afraid women will laugh at them. Women are afraid men will kill them." - Margaret Atwood
Mon Jan 12, 2026, 10:33 AM
Jan 12
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