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Now he looks like an idiot? ... (Original Post) aggiesal 2 hrs ago OP
One would think they should find that out first Uncle Joe 2 hrs ago #1
Came here to suggest he thought of that first. Irish_Dem 2 hrs ago #10
Did they not tell him that in their secret meetings beforehand? Beartracks 1 hr ago #27
Do you really think he would have listened? You can't tell him anything. paleotn 1 hr ago #30
I guess I needed a "facetious emoji" for my post! Beartracks 1 hr ago #41
Sorry for my misinterpretation. And big oil is most definitely NOT going to do that on their dime. paleotn 38 min ago #43
Unless you are Trump PatSeg 1 hr ago #29
Yeah, his uncle taught at MIT, you know!!! He has the best brain, you know!!! hatrack 1 hr ago #31
Poor, poor Donald PatSeg 35 min ago #44
It's like they didn't have a plan or something underpants 2 hrs ago #2
incredible how 'concepts of a plan" don't survive contact with reality rampartd 2 hrs ago #12
I've thought Trump was an idiot since the late 1970s PJMcK 2 hrs ago #3
So did his mother... GiqueCee 2 hrs ago #4
The only thing he's good at is manipulation of others. ImmigrantsWGTJD 1 hr ago #34
All dictators end badly PJMcK 1 hr ago #40
Now? Dan 2 hrs ago #5
My question exactly. patphil 16 min ago #48
Oopsie...a dead end alley! Hope22 2 hrs ago #6
I just broke this. You should pay for it. milestogo 2 hrs ago #7
He, not only, LOOKS like an idiot indigoth 2 hrs ago #8
I've always known that t-rump was a total idiot. He lucked into millions from his family and continues to be lucky... wcmagumba 2 hrs ago #9
Trump is a toddler with a loader gun that cannot be taken away Bok_Tukalo 2 hrs ago #11
Impeachment would do it. n/t returnee 2 hrs ago #17
That's not happening. Bok_Tukalo 2 hrs ago #21
Didn't say it was happening. returnee 22 min ago #46
He has always looked like an idiot. I have always thought he was an idiot. cksmithy 2 hrs ago #13
He's looked like an idiot for decades... NotHardly 2 hrs ago #14
He stated emphatically that the Oil Companies can't wait to get in there and get all that oil. Marie Marie 2 hrs ago #15
Fortunately for everyone concerned (except Trump), the oil execs are smarter than he is, Ocelot II 2 hrs ago #23
Kick dalton99a 2 hrs ago #16
He was born an idiot. It doesn't change during your life when you're born that way. ashredux 2 hrs ago #18
He was born a lot of things state of stupid 1 hr ago #39
Appropriate Aviation Pro 2 hrs ago #19
When didn't he? Ocelot II 2 hrs ago #20
How ungrateful of them. RELEASE THE EPSTEIN FILES Raven123 2 hrs ago #22
That's cuz the moran thinks he knows everybody's business better than they do. usonian 2 hrs ago #24
His idiocy is CONFIRMED, yet again. Martin Eden 1 hr ago #25
But it knocked Trump's Epstien files connection out of the headlines for a week... Beartracks 1 hr ago #26
Exxon's CEO tells Trump that Venezuela's Oil is uninvestible! LetMyPeopleVote 1 hr ago #28
It's a negotiating ploy. sop 1 hr ago #32
They didn't have a long range plan for after the abduction of Machado. WestMichRad 1 hr ago #33
I foresee the Sunni Triangle with jungles. paleotn 1 hr ago #36
Anyone with a function frontal cortex knew it all along.... paleotn 1 hr ago #35
Does that mean we fly Maduro back and drop him off? NBachers 1 hr ago #37
"Garbage": How Trump Used to Talk About Venezuelan Oil LetMyPeopleVote 1 hr ago #38
I look forward to the day when nobody cares how he feels or what he says. calimary 15 min ago #49
NOW? 3Hotdogs 1 hr ago #42
Can't pass the buck to Biden for THIS fuck-up, clown. Grokenstein 34 min ago #45
I bet security is the main issue. BradBo 17 min ago #47
Yeah and Fuck Off Blowhard PEDO Homicidal Cha 8 min ago #50

Irish_Dem

(79,919 posts)
10. Came here to suggest he thought of that first.
Sun Jan 11, 2026, 05:10 PM
2 hrs ago

He assumed everyone would do his bidding.

paleotn

(21,607 posts)
30. Do you really think he would have listened? You can't tell him anything.
Sun Jan 11, 2026, 06:14 PM
1 hr ago

The country is being run by a complete moron and minions who repeat everything the moron utters like it's fucking gospel.

See Rex Tillerson on Big Oil's take on Trump. A useful idiot on some occasions. A complete moron few want to associate with if they can help it.

Beartracks

(14,377 posts)
41. I guess I needed a "facetious emoji" for my post!
Sun Jan 11, 2026, 06:29 PM
1 hr ago

I completely agree with your response. They probably did tell him, but Trump likely thought that by going ahead with "breaking Venezuela" he could force their hand into "fixing it."

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paleotn

(21,607 posts)
43. Sorry for my misinterpretation. And big oil is most definitely NOT going to do that on their dime.
Sun Jan 11, 2026, 07:12 PM
38 min ago

"Sorry. Ain't touching it. You should have asked us BEFORE you broke it. We would have told you...ain't touching it."

Now, Donnie is stuck with a humanitarian disaster of monumental proportions, an incarcerated dictator who will probably walk, and no artificial decline in US gas prices before the 2026 elections. The price of lack of forethought.

hatrack

(64,273 posts)
31. Yeah, his uncle taught at MIT, you know!!! He has the best brain, you know!!!
Sun Jan 11, 2026, 06:14 PM
1 hr ago
&list=RDZxPwVK_Z4YI&start_radio=1

PatSeg

(52,226 posts)
44. Poor, poor Donald
Sun Jan 11, 2026, 07:15 PM
35 min ago

There actually were some brains in his family, but he seemed to be the family misfit and he knows it, which is probably why he overcompensates all the time.

rampartd

(3,856 posts)
12. incredible how 'concepts of a plan" don't survive contact with reality
Sun Jan 11, 2026, 05:12 PM
2 hrs ago

if those oil companies weren't loading ships with equipment by new years this is all bullshit.

but the joke is on us. we get to pay for this infrastructure and security in venezuela and trump profits.

PJMcK

(24,771 posts)
3. I've thought Trump was an idiot since the late 1970s
Sun Jan 11, 2026, 05:00 PM
2 hrs ago

It’s gratifying to see others catching up.

GiqueCee

(3,428 posts)
4. So did his mother...
Sun Jan 11, 2026, 05:06 PM
2 hrs ago

... in fact, she said he was an idiot, and that she hoped he never got into politics because he'd be a disaster. Truer words have never been said, before or since.

ImmigrantsWGTJD

(9 posts)
34. The only thing he's good at is manipulation of others.
Sun Jan 11, 2026, 06:19 PM
1 hr ago

Soon may it all come to a screeching halt. They say that dictatorships always end suddenly.

PJMcK

(24,771 posts)
40. All dictators end badly
Sun Jan 11, 2026, 06:29 PM
1 hr ago

Except for North Korea, they always collapse and the leader ends up dead or in exile. Look at history.

patphil

(8,734 posts)
48. My question exactly.
Sun Jan 11, 2026, 07:34 PM
16 min ago

The guy's been an idiot for several decades. Believe me, I know. I live about 60 miles north of NYC, and have seen this guy in action since the 1980's.
Nothing has changed since then. He was an idiot back then, and still is now, except over the years he's perfected idiocy.

Hope22

(4,484 posts)
6. Oopsie...a dead end alley!
Sun Jan 11, 2026, 05:08 PM
2 hrs ago

Get a map people and quit wasting our money. This episode of your TV show is a dud!!!

wcmagumba

(5,661 posts)
9. I've always known that t-rump was a total idiot. He lucked into millions from his family and continues to be lucky...
Sun Jan 11, 2026, 05:10 PM
2 hrs ago

not smart, except for grifting, he's good at that...

Bok_Tukalo

(4,526 posts)
11. Trump is a toddler with a loader gun that cannot be taken away
Sun Jan 11, 2026, 05:10 PM
2 hrs ago

All that can done is distraction (Ballroom Kennedy Center) or manipulate him into firing the gun in your preferred direction.

Someone sold him on this operation and used oil as the reason to get him on board. Who knows the real reason?

Bok_Tukalo

(4,526 posts)
21. That's not happening.
Sun Jan 11, 2026, 05:34 PM
2 hrs ago

We are a politically bifurcated society. You cannot get a supermajority in the Senate to do anything of consequence.

returnee

(827 posts)
46. Didn't say it was happening.
Sun Jan 11, 2026, 07:27 PM
23 min ago

I said it would work. I’m not unaware of the current situation in Congress. However, in these times I decline to predict what is or isn’t possible.

Marie Marie

(10,899 posts)
15. He stated emphatically that the Oil Companies can't wait to get in there and get all that oil.
Sun Jan 11, 2026, 05:18 PM
2 hrs ago

And I know that Daddy would never lie to us.

OTOH - I wanted to see these greedy fucks go all in and Trump would provide them with all the military protection he can send. Then we get a new Democratic President and Congress who immediately withdraw all our troops, leaving them to use their obscene profits to protect themselves. Aaaah, a girl can dream....

Ocelot II

(129,163 posts)
23. Fortunately for everyone concerned (except Trump), the oil execs are smarter than he is,
Sun Jan 11, 2026, 05:35 PM
2 hrs ago

and they know that getting involved in oil extraction and refining in Venezuela right now is a fool's errand - and they told him so.

ashredux

(2,878 posts)
18. He was born an idiot. It doesn't change during your life when you're born that way.
Sun Jan 11, 2026, 05:25 PM
2 hrs ago

However, he’s turned being an idiot into an art form

usonian

(23,610 posts)
24. That's cuz the moran thinks he knows everybody's business better than they do.
Sun Jan 11, 2026, 05:37 PM
2 hrs ago

Seems to have turned horribly jaundiced color.

Beartracks

(14,377 posts)
26. But it knocked Trump's Epstien files connection out of the headlines for a week...
Sun Jan 11, 2026, 05:56 PM
1 hr ago

... so he's got that going for him.

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sop

(17,491 posts)
32. It's a negotiating ploy.
Sun Jan 11, 2026, 06:15 PM
1 hr ago

Oil companies will get U.S. taxpayers to subsidize the full cost of modernization. Then they'll demand all revenues from Venezuela's oil sales, in perpetuity, along with a zero tax rate on all future profits. The imbecile will cave, he can't afford to lose face now.

WestMichRad

(2,939 posts)
33. They didn't have a long range plan for after the abduction of Machado.
Sun Jan 11, 2026, 06:19 PM
1 hr ago

Now, the country has no ruling government, no income, and cannot support themselves with basic food needs. It will descend into utter chaos, making Haiti’s anarchy look civil and orderly. Expect mass migration as people flee to neighboring countries. If the U.S. tries to send in forces to “run” the country, they’ll be bogged down for many years and welcomed by hostile well-armed gangs.

It’s gonna make Shrub’s Iraq fiasco look quaint, any everyone in northern South America will end up despising the U.S.

But hey, this administration will get to fuck over Cuba, so it’s a win, yes?

paleotn

(21,607 posts)
36. I foresee the Sunni Triangle with jungles.
Sun Jan 11, 2026, 06:22 PM
1 hr ago

Iraq 2.0 with far better cover for the insurgents.

paleotn

(21,607 posts)
35. Anyone with a function frontal cortex knew it all along....
Sun Jan 11, 2026, 06:20 PM
1 hr ago

Sometimes all you can do is just let lunatics do their thing. They won't listen to you anyway.

Speaking of oil execs...what did Rex Tillerson call him? A fucking moron? Yes, that about sums him up.

&t=1s

LetMyPeopleVote

(175,074 posts)
38. "Garbage": How Trump Used to Talk About Venezuelan Oil
Sun Jan 11, 2026, 06:24 PM
1 hr ago

The US is going to extreme lengths to control oil that Trump used to regularly disparage.

"Their oil is garbage. It’s horrible. The worst you can get. Tar. It’s like tar."

Read how Trump used to talk about Venezuelan oil.

Mother Jones (@motherjones.com) 2026-01-09T16:31:41.946Z

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2026/01/garbage-trump-disparage-venezuelan-oil-crude-maduro-tar-horrible-worst-oil/

Not long ago, President Donald Trump had a clear opinion of Venezuelan oil.

Throughout his 2024 presidential campaign, he called the country’s crude “horrible,” “tar,” “the dirtiest stuff you can imagine,” and the “worst oil probably anywhere in the world.” But, less than two years later, President Trump has framed his move to depose Nicolás Maduro in large part as a move to seize this “garbage” oil.

His reservations about the quality of the fossil fuels he plans to acquire have disappeared. Instead, the president has suggested he may be willing to send in more US troops to keep control of it and that he’s not “afraid of boots on the ground.” Gone, too, are Trump’s warnings that Venezuelan heavy crude will pollute the air in American communities when it’s refined stateside.

Trump’s disparaging remarks about Venezuelan oil were not a one-off. He made a version of the same argument at least five times between June 2023 and August 2024. The typical pitch went something like this: When I was president, we drilled top-tier American oil. Now we import tar from Venezuela and pollute our country in the process.

Here’s a longer version from a speech to North Carolina Republicans in June 2023:

When I left Venezuela was ready to collapse. We would have taken it over. We would have gotten all that oil. It would have been right next door. But now we’re buying oil from Venezuela. So we’re making a dictator very rich. Can you believe this? Nobody can believe this.

Their oil is garbage. It’s horrible. The worst you can get. Tar. It’s like tar. And to refine it you need special plants … We have liquid gold. The best, most beautiful stuff you can get. Liquid gold. Better than gold. Right under our feet … But with Venezuela, they put their oil and they refine it in Houston! So all those pollutants go right up in the air … So, we lose economically. And we also lose from an environmental standpoint. Because it is really dirty stuff. The dirtiest stuff you can imagine.


The bit has a typically Trumpian cognitive dissonance to it. If he’d been re-elected in 2020, America would have benefited greatly by taking control of Venezuela’s oil, he claimed. At the same time, Democrats were idiots for using such horrible, polluting oil.

Most of the oil in Venezuela is heavy tar that will require a great deal of investment to produce and refine. It is no wonder why US oil companies are not willing to make this investment

calimary

(89,060 posts)
49. I look forward to the day when nobody cares how he feels or what he says.
Sun Jan 11, 2026, 07:35 PM
15 min ago

I keep thinking about the aviation term “no longer a factor”. And boy do I look forward to the day that phrase starts applying to the donald, because he, too, is no longer a factor.

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