Thanks for the thread aggiesal

He assumed everyone would do his bidding.

will suggest to him, that he takes all the monies he is withholding from Blue States, and give it to them to rebuild the oil industry down there in Venezuela.............If he needs more money,..... he can just wave his magic fecal covered finger, and run the national debt up a few trillion more......

And pays the oil companies a bonus to take the gamble.

Trump seems hell bent on destroying the US and global economies.

The country is being run by a complete moron and minions who repeat everything the moron utters like it's fucking gospel.

See Rex Tillerson on Big Oil's take on Trump. A useful idiot on some occasions. A complete moron few want to associate with if they can help it.

I completely agree with your response. They probably did tell him, but Trump likely thought that by going ahead with "breaking Venezuela" he could force their hand into "fixing it."

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"Sorry. Ain't touching it. You should have asked us BEFORE you broke it. We would have told you...ain't touching it."

Now, Donnie is stuck with a humanitarian disaster of monumental proportions, an incarcerated dictator who will probably walk, and no artificial decline in US gas prices before the 2026 elections. The price of lack of forethought.

And has!

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They are actual businessmen / women. Trump just plays one on TV.

and know more about everything than anyone else.

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There actually were some brains in his family, but he seemed to be the family misfit and he knows it, which is probably why he overcompensates all the time.

if those oil companies weren't loading ships with equipment by new years this is all bullshit.

but the joke is on us. we get to pay for this infrastructure and security in venezuela and trump profits.

It’s gratifying to see others catching up.

... in fact, she said he was an idiot, and that she hoped he never got into politics because he'd be a disaster. Truer words have never been said, before or since.

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2019/dec/18/facebook-posts/no-evidence-trumps-mother-called-him-idiot-zero-co/

though she would have been correct.

Was quoted as saying that

... a while back, under a photo of his mother speaking to an unidentified reporter with a mike.
Regardless of attribution, the statement has been proven to be true beyond the remotest shadow of a doubt.

Soon may it all come to a screeching halt. They say that dictatorships always end suddenly.

Except for North Korea, they always collapse and the leader ends up dead or in exile. Look at history.

The guy's been an idiot for several decades. Believe me, I know. I live about 60 miles north of NYC, and have seen this guy in action since the 1980's.
Nothing has changed since then. He was an idiot back then, and still is now, except over the years he's perfected idiocy.

Get a map people and quit wasting our money. This episode of your TV show is a dud!!!

That's his internal moral compass.

He IS an idiot.

not smart, except for grifting, he's good at that...

All that can done is distraction (Ballroom Kennedy Center) or manipulate him into firing the gun in your preferred direction.

Someone sold him on this operation and used oil as the reason to get him on board. Who knows the real reason?

We are a politically bifurcated society. You cannot get a supermajority in the Senate to do anything of consequence.

I said it would work. I’m not unaware of the current situation in Congress. However, in these times I decline to predict what is or isn’t possible.

Now let's see if, as I suspect he will, he will use taxpayers money (added to the national debt) to give to big oil for them to do his bidding.

He'll cut Social Security & Medicare if he can get away with it. It's not about the oil staying in tankers for a decade. He doesn't care.

And I know that Daddy would never lie to us.

OTOH - I wanted to see these greedy fucks go all in and Trump would provide them with all the military protection he can send. Then we get a new Democratic President and Congress who immediately withdraw all our troops, leaving them to use their obscene profits to protect themselves. Aaaah, a girl can dream....

and they know that getting involved in oil extraction and refining in Venezuela right now is a fool's errand - and they told him so.

However, he’s turned being an idiot into an art form

Thanks!

Seems to have turned horribly jaundiced color.

Has he graduated from idiot to imbecile yet?

... so he's got that going for him.

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Link to tweet

Oil companies will get U.S. taxpayers to subsidize the full cost of modernization. Then they'll demand all revenues from Venezuela's oil sales, in perpetuity, along with a zero tax rate on all future profits. The imbecile will cave, he can't afford to lose face now.

Now, the country has no ruling government, no income, and cannot support themselves with basic food needs. It will descend into utter chaos, making Haiti’s anarchy look civil and orderly. Expect mass migration as people flee to neighboring countries. If the U.S. tries to send in forces to “run” the country, they’ll be bogged down for many years and welcomed by hostile well-armed gangs.

It’s gonna make Shrub’s Iraq fiasco look quaint, any everyone in northern South America will end up despising the U.S.

But hey, this administration will get to fuck over Cuba, so it’s a win, yes?

Iraq 2.0 with far better cover for the insurgents.

And in Cuba, and in Greenland, and in Columbia, and in Mexico, and in Canada.

Anything to distract from the Epstein files.

Sometimes all you can do is just let lunatics do their thing. They won't listen to you anyway.

Speaking of oil execs...what did Rex Tillerson call him? A fucking moron? Yes, that about sums him up.

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The US is going to extreme lengths to control oil that Trump used to regularly disparage.

"Their oil is garbage. It’s horrible. The worst you can get. Tar. It’s like tar."

Read how Trump used to talk about Venezuelan oil.

— Mother Jones (@motherjones.com) 2026-01-09T16:31:41.946Z

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2026/01/garbage-trump-disparage-venezuelan-oil-crude-maduro-tar-horrible-worst-oil/


Most of the oil in Venezuela is heavy tar that will require a great deal of investment to produce and refine. It is no wonder why US oil companies are not willing to make this investment

I keep thinking about the aviation term “no longer a factor”. And boy do I look forward to the day that phrase starts applying to the donald, because he, too, is no longer a factor.

I've seen that "oil". At room temperature it is a solid waxy substance that looks like poop and smells as bad. I'm a retired geochemist who used to work at a multinational core testing laboratory in Houston. The sample came from PDVSA. That "oil" requires lots of treatment with heat, water, and surfactants to get it to move at all. Very expensive. Also, when you go to refine it into gasoline, kerosene, fuel oil and other useful things, you get very little of the lighter fractions with much wax and tar left over. Not much $$ in that. Those oil company execs know this. JMHO.

The oil tankers he confiscated are in such bad shape that they cannot dock at a US facility without significant repair. The Coast Guard is apparently trying to recruit personnel to go out to these boats to work on them. Once emptied, they would need to be demolished -- look up ship breaking; it's expensive, dangerous and dirty.

ONLY NOW?

You broke it, you bought it.

Trumps throwing ketchup tonight. Watch out!

Maniac inside the WH.

He doesn't know how to count other people's money. He thinks by threatening them they will shower him with bundles of cash (they will not make).

You have forced other companies to do your bidding.

II's called 'republican free market capitalism'.

During his campaign, he told the Oil CEO's that if you give him $1B, he would clear regulations

...he really is an idiot." -- Groucho Marx

I could have sworn that the state department is informing any American in Venezuela to leave the country immediately.

But don’t let that fool you.

He really is an idiot!

(Apologies to Mr. Marx).

... is the real reason he went into Venezuela. He made a deal with Putin, because Pootie was losing his shirt in Venezuela and he had to get out. So Pootie told Chump to move in and take over V., and I'll make a deal with you on Ukraine.

Chump was never dealing with the oil barons, he just assumed they would jump at the chance to pump out V.'s oil.

Yes of course he's an idiot, but we already knew that.

but now what’s up with the pink hair?

Trump, the billion-dollar loser — I was his ghostwriter and saw it happen

Charles Leerhson
Yahoo.com, May 9, 2019

EXCERPT...

I tend to see my time with him — the first part of it, anyway, before things started going bad in a hurry — as his “King Midas” period. I never said this to him; if I had, he probably would have thought I was suggesting he enter the muffler business. But there was a stretch of months when everything he touched turned into a deal. The banks seemed to accept the version of him depicted in his first book, “The Art of the Deal,” which we now know from his previous ghostwriter, Tony Schwartz, was entirely invented. They believed it over what they saw on his balance sheets or heard coming out of his mouth, and they never said no to his requests for more money. Often they came up with things he could say yes to before he could think of them himself. As a result, a failing real estate developer who had little idea of what he was doing and less interest in doing it once he’d held the all-important press conference wound up owning three New Jersey hotel-casinos, the Plaza Hotel, the Eastern Airlines Shuttle and a 281-foot yacht.

A real go-getter, right? But Trump’s portfolio did not jibe with what I saw each day — which to a surprisingly large extent was him looking at fabric swatches. Indeed, flipping through fabric swatches seemed at times to be his main occupation. Some days he would do it for hours, then take me in what he always called his “French military helicopter” to Atlantic City — where he looked at more fabric swatches or sometimes small samples of wood paneling. It was true that the carpets and drapes at his properties needed to be refreshed frequently, and the seats on the renamed Trump Shuttle required occasional reupholstering. But the main thing about fabric swatches was that they were within his comfort zone — whereas, for example, the management of hotels and airlines clearly wasn’t. One of his aides once told me that every room at the Plaza could be filled at the “rack rate” (list price) every night, and the revenue still wouldn’t cover the monthly payment of the loan he’d taken out to buy the place. In other words, he’d made a ridiculous deal. Neither he nor the banks had done the math beforehand. Or perhaps Trump knew it because someone had told him, but didn’t want to think about it. The one thing he is above-average at is compartmentalization.

Source:

https://news.yahoo.com/trump-the-billiondollar-loser-his-ghostwriter-recalls-the-king-midas-years-090000640.html