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bigtree

(94,672 posts)
Wed Feb 4, 2026, 03:09 PM Feb 2026

Republicans cooked their own goose with the Clintons testifying

Kyle Griffin @kylegriffin1 14m
Democrats now say Republicans have established a precedent when it comes to Congress' ability to subpoena and haul in past presidents and family members under threat of criminal charges — thanks to how Republicans threatened the Clintons — and they plan to use it against Trump.

"We are absolutely going to have Donald Trump testify under oath."



After Republicans push Clintons to testify on Epstein, Democrats warn they'll haul in Trump
Democrats say Republicans have set a precedent with subpoenas of an ex-president and first lady. "We will follow it ... Donald Trump, all of his kids. Everybody," Rep. Maxwell Frost said.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/republicans-push-clintons-testify-epstein-democrats-warn-haul-trump-rcna257275
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Republicans cooked their own goose with the Clintons testifying (Original Post) bigtree Feb 2026 OP
Recommended. H2O Man Feb 2026 #1
Constitutional Law isn't their strong suit, but it is ours MagickMuffin Feb 2026 #8
Comer may be the dumbest Repub in Congress, and that's really saying something. FadedMullet Feb 2026 #17
Not by far Jilly_in_VA Feb 2026 #28
Well, it coulda been... returnee Feb 2026 #43
That's why Jilly_in_VA Feb 2026 #59
Comer is dumb and also willfully ignorant about Trump's blatant wrong-doing Redleg Feb 2026 #35
He's dumb alright, but he's hardly willfully ignorant about the wrongdoing.... Ol Janx Spirit Feb 2026 #60
This is what I meant Redleg Feb 2026 #62
It is truly amazing how pretty much every Repukelicon has adapted the ability... Ol Janx Spirit Feb 2026 #63
Jim Jordan never passed the bar exam. iluvtennis Feb 2026 #21
They can't see past the next 5 minutes ToxMarz Feb 2026 #30
I always think Trump as a demented toddler ... ananda Feb 2026 #32
Exactly. H2O Man Feb 2026 #41
Or Plain Ignorant, Actually The Roux Comes First Feb 2026 #45
Don't tell them that Bill was more popular after the kerfuffle spanone Feb 2026 #39
Right! H2O Man Feb 2026 #40
Can I presume Bill has immunity or does that only apply MadameButterfly Feb 2026 #64
He does in H2O Man Feb 2026 #66
Why do I think that somehow Trump's relationship MadameButterfly Feb 2026 #67
Of course the H2O Man Feb 2026 #68
But delay, Tom Delay, kick the can SCROTUS... GreenWave Feb 2026 #2
LOCK HER U...no wait! leftstreet Feb 2026 #3
Tomorrow he will be ranting that Bill and Hillary ran a horrific child torture center. travelingthrulife Feb 2026 #33
Out of a Mexican restaurant..... SergeStorms Feb 2026 #36
Well done UpInArms Feb 2026 #4
I like that! "Jacketoff Jim Jordan". calimary Feb 2026 #31
"Jim Jacketoff"..... SergeStorms Feb 2026 #37
Shows you how important I thought he was. calimary Feb 2026 #38
republicons would still refuse to show up RandiFan1290 Feb 2026 #5
I don't think so ScratchCat Feb 2026 #6
With any luck whatsoever Jilly_in_VA Feb 2026 #29
Why wouldn't Trump appear. He will lie like all his appointees LiberalArkie Feb 2026 #57
And family (I don't think Trump's going to make it to be an ex president) aeromanKC Feb 2026 #7
Clinton Precedent gfarber Feb 2026 #9
Another winner, gfarber! calimary Feb 2026 #53
It will never happen, he will either be dead or in a mental facility before he ever Bev54 Feb 2026 #10
Not very good chess players C_U_L8R Feb 2026 #11
Tic-tac-toe is the limit of their mental faculties..... lastlib Feb 2026 #15
Ding ding malaise Feb 2026 #12
king piggy: "I'm not worried..." Grokenstein Feb 2026 #13
Yup yup yup. mr715 Feb 2026 #14
Let us "prey"...go to it Hil and Bill. yorkster Feb 2026 #16
And how many years has Jim Jordan thumbed his nose at his congressional subpoena? dlk Feb 2026 #18
Comer... GiqueCee Feb 2026 #19
Do you suppose his name is really stage left Feb 2026 #26
I wouldn't be surprised... GiqueCee Feb 2026 #27
Bullshit. intheflow Feb 2026 #20
Exactly. This. n/t progressoid Feb 2026 #22
Post removed Post removed Feb 2026 #23
Wait wait wait. So a family of known law breakers is suddenly going to agree to appear from a subpoena that has no teeth progressoid Feb 2026 #24
Republicans are counting on him being 80+ Renew Deal Feb 2026 #25
Don't forget Jared. Kid Berwyn Feb 2026 #34
That being said... 2naSalit Feb 2026 #42
Assuming we have fair elections. returnee Feb 2026 #44
... if swong19104 Feb 2026 #46
Problem is - will Anal Fistula even be alive when he is an ex president? 3Hotdogs Feb 2026 #47
The rest of the trump crime family will be. n/t tinymontgomery Feb 2026 #49
Clinton's Precedent graycampervan Feb 2026 #48
As much as I tend to agree with this, I don't see tsf ever testifying in Congress. Ever chicoescuela Feb 2026 #50
He 'll be long dead. Figarosmom Feb 2026 #51
Wasn't the precedent already set with Clinton following ecstatic Feb 2026 #52
Democrats are getting played again oldmanlynn Feb 2026 #54
Republicans don't care about looking hypocritical iemanja Feb 2026 #55
I fear/hope that trump will not make it to the end of this term LetMyPeopleVote Feb 2026 #56
Kentucky Representative James Comer is... augyboston Feb 2026 #58
And remember: AverageOldGuy Feb 2026 #61
I can already hear it. The Democrats issue a subpoena to Trump, Trump says NO. Democrats say ok fine. LiberalArkie Feb 2026 #65
MaddowBlog-As Clintons prepare to answer questions about Epstein, Trump balks LetMyPeopleVote Feb 2026 #69

H2O Man

(79,257 posts)
1. Recommended.
Wed Feb 4, 2026, 03:12 PM
Feb 2026

I think the Clintons played the republicans on this. I've long believed that one should always be mighty careful who they pick a fight with. The republicans have made a serious error here, and will pay a price.

MagickMuffin

(18,362 posts)
8. Constitutional Law isn't their strong suit, but it is ours
Wed Feb 4, 2026, 03:26 PM
Feb 2026


Comer a farmer. He is ignorant of Constitutional Law. Same thing goes for Jim Jordan.


Jilly_in_VA

(14,624 posts)
28. Not by far
Wed Feb 4, 2026, 05:07 PM
Feb 2026

That dubious honor goes to Tommy Tuberville, the fool "representing" Alabama while living in FloriDUH. Just above him are Ron Johnson and Marsha Blackburn. I leave out Chuck Grassley because he's obviously got dementia. Gym Jordan is right down there too.
Comer may be the dumbest committee chair, I'll give him that anyway.

Jilly_in_VA

(14,624 posts)
59. That's why
Thu Feb 5, 2026, 10:00 AM
Feb 2026

Tuberville and Johnson prayed so hard for him to win. It would have moved them up a notch.

Redleg

(7,026 posts)
35. Comer is dumb and also willfully ignorant about Trump's blatant wrong-doing
Wed Feb 4, 2026, 05:32 PM
Feb 2026

I wish he represented my district in KY so I could vote against him. Instead I have Thomas Massie as my rep.

Ol Janx Spirit

(1,078 posts)
60. He's dumb alright, but he's hardly willfully ignorant about the wrongdoing....
Thu Feb 5, 2026, 10:59 AM
Feb 2026

He certainly saw it in everything Hunter Biden ever did didn't he?

He knows full well, and he cheers it on.

The dumbest part is in thinking it is okay to cheerlead and provide cover for all of the blatant wrong-doing as if it will not destroy the America that has allowed an idiot like himself to succeed.

Comer Pyle will go down in history as a major player in burning democracy to the ground unless Democrats can thread the needle on winning elections and beating back the ensuing violent insurrections.... It really feels like that is where we stand.

Redleg

(7,026 posts)
62. This is what I meant
Thu Feb 5, 2026, 11:15 AM
Feb 2026

"The Biden Crime Family" was his concern, not the overt corruption DJT. Likewise he appears concerned about the relationships between the Clintons and Epstein but mute on that between Trump and Epstein.

Ol Janx Spirit

(1,078 posts)
63. It is truly amazing how pretty much every Repukelicon has adapted the ability...
Thu Feb 5, 2026, 11:49 AM
Feb 2026

...to only look in one direction to see any wrongdoing or even impropriety.

It is astounding that this now extends to sexual assault, falsifying business records, hush-money payments, and an impossible-to-ignore longtime "friendship" with a person running a child-sex ring--in addition to all of the more run-of-the-mill corruption in plain sight.

“Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother’s eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye?"

You'd think these "Christians" would actually take lines like that to heart, but that would require having one....

iluvtennis

(21,527 posts)
21. Jim Jordan never passed the bar exam.
Wed Feb 4, 2026, 04:34 PM
Feb 2026

Jim Jordan earned a Juris Doctor (J.D.) law degree from Capital University Law School in Columbus, Ohio. While he holds this degree, which he earned in 2001, he never took the bar exam and is not a practicing attorney. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Jordan

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The Clintons may be older now, but both are very astute lawyers - the lying MAGAts are no match for them.

ToxMarz

(3,069 posts)
30. They can't see past the next 5 minutes
Wed Feb 4, 2026, 05:16 PM
Feb 2026
Children often don't understand consequences because their brains are still developing, lacking the mature prefrontal cortex needed for impulse control, long-term planning, and risk assessment. Younger children, especially under age 3, cannot connect past actions to present outcomes, often living in the immediate moment. Furthermore, when children are dysregulated, stressed, or in "survival mode," their brain cannot process logic or lessons, rendering traditional consequences ineffective.

ananda

(35,518 posts)
32. I always think Trump as a demented toddler ...
Wed Feb 4, 2026, 05:26 PM
Feb 2026

with no impulse control and a mean streak
a mile wide.

H2O Man

(79,257 posts)
41. Exactly.
Wed Feb 4, 2026, 05:59 PM
Feb 2026

I'll take it a step further -- there is no area of law that they know better than the Clintons. None. They are wasy over their heads. I know that republicans on the committee are in close contact with the DOJ on this and related matters. But the DOJ maga are not in the Clintons' league. They really just aren't.

H2O Man

(79,257 posts)
40. Right!
Wed Feb 4, 2026, 05:56 PM
Feb 2026

Either one of the Clintons is a hundred times smarter than the combined sum of every republican in the House. When I first heard the committee was calling them, I thought it was a terrible mistake on their part. Of course, I find their terrible mistakes to be a very good thing.

H2O Man

(79,257 posts)
66. He does in
Thu Feb 5, 2026, 03:01 PM
Feb 2026

the context of events in his presidency. I am not aware of either of the Clintons having anything to do with Epstein in those years. I could be wrong, but I am under the impression that their marginal contact was limited to getting a donation to the Clinton Foundation to help in Africa.

Likewise, the felon's much, much closer to Epstein relationship came before he took office, and is thus not covered.

I note that the Clintons wanted their testimony to be public. At least it will be recorded. I am 100% convinced that they have some surprises in store for the republicans. First, they are far more intelligent than any republican on the committee. Second, they have the truth on their side, whereas the republicans only have smears and attempts to distract.

MadameButterfly

(4,159 posts)
67. Why do I think that somehow Trump's relationship
Thu Feb 5, 2026, 04:05 PM
Feb 2026

will be considered part of his presidential duties and the Clintons' won't? I know that is a stretch, but that's what we always say.....

H2O Man

(79,257 posts)
68. Of course the
Thu Feb 5, 2026, 04:31 PM
Feb 2026

felon will try to pretend they were. But the vast majority of his relationship with Epstein was well before 2016.

leftstreet

(41,257 posts)
3. LOCK HER U...no wait!
Wed Feb 4, 2026, 03:15 PM
Feb 2026
Jake Sherman
@JakeSherman
18h
"I think it's a shame," Trump says, of the House bringing Bill and Hillary Clinton into testify.

"I always liked him," Trump says of Bill Clinton.

"She's a very capable woman," Trump on Hillary Clinton.

"I hate to see it in many ways," Trump says.



?s=20



Sure changing his tune
DURec

SergeStorms

(20,818 posts)
36. Out of a Mexican restaurant.....
Wed Feb 4, 2026, 05:36 PM
Feb 2026

run by "the worst of the worst."

Yeah, Trump's "opinions" depend solely on the last person he talked to.

calimary

(90,822 posts)
31. I like that! "Jacketoff Jim Jordan".
Wed Feb 4, 2026, 05:17 PM
Feb 2026

It’s deviously perfect!

Is that an “ UpInArms Original”?

SergeStorms

(20,818 posts)
37. "Jim Jacketoff".....
Wed Feb 4, 2026, 05:40 PM
Feb 2026

has been used for years now. I'm surprised you missed it, calimary. You're pretty plugged-in to DU.

ScratchCat

(2,753 posts)
6. I don't think so
Wed Feb 4, 2026, 03:20 PM
Feb 2026

James Comer solicited two Republican-leaning law firms who both told him that the courts would not uphold the committees subpoena against the Clintons for multiple reasons.

If a future Democrat-controlled house tries this in 2029 - assuming Donald Trump is even alive then - the courts will just tell the House what they would have told Comer.

Donald Trump will never sit in front of Congress under oath.

Jilly_in_VA

(14,624 posts)
29. With any luck whatsoever
Wed Feb 4, 2026, 05:09 PM
Feb 2026

A few current sitting justices will either be dead, retired, or better yet, impeached. Looking at YOU, Thomas and Alito!

LiberalArkie

(19,919 posts)
57. Why wouldn't Trump appear. He will lie like all his appointees
Thu Feb 5, 2026, 04:42 AM
Feb 2026

And nothing will happen to him.

aeromanKC

(3,963 posts)
7. And family (I don't think Trump's going to make it to be an ex president)
Wed Feb 4, 2026, 03:23 PM
Feb 2026

But the family will!!

 

gfarber

(278 posts)
9. Clinton Precedent
Wed Feb 4, 2026, 03:40 PM
Feb 2026


There once was a hearing so rough,
Where Congress cried, “Enough is enough!”
“You dragged Bill through the mud,
So we’ll return the good thud—
Now Trump gets the cuffs and the huff.”

The GOP smirked with delight,
Hauling Clintons in late every night.
But the Dems just laughed back,
Said, “You scratched a big crack—
Now it’s our turn to give you a bite.”

Said Frost with a leer and a grin,
“You opened the door—let us in.
If you like it real raw,
With subpoenas and law,
We’ll call Don and the kids and the kin.”

When Epstein got waved like a flag,
The whole damn thing started to sag.
“You wanted the past? Just
Hope you’re ready—because
We’re subpoenaing everything you brag.”

“There’ll be oaths,” said the Dems, “nice and tight,
No wiggle, no dodging, no flight.
You set the damn bed,
Now lie in it,” they said,
“And we’ll watch while you squirm in the light.”

So beware when you threaten with glee,
To drag ghosts in for all eyes to see:
If you tug on that thread,
Soon it’s your ass instead
Getting hauled in by precedent—whee!”

Bev54

(13,517 posts)
10. It will never happen, he will either be dead or in a mental facility before he ever
Wed Feb 4, 2026, 03:41 PM
Feb 2026

testifies. This is completely empty threat for him but not for his kids, which you will see moving to the UAE when he is out of power. They will be investigated as will those who carried out his orders.

Edit to add: he will likely provide everyone in his admin pardons before he goes either way, if it hasn't already been done.

C_U_L8R

(49,534 posts)
11. Not very good chess players
Wed Feb 4, 2026, 03:43 PM
Feb 2026

It's doubtful they'd do any better at checkers.
How about a nice game of Go Fish.

lastlib

(28,624 posts)
15. Tic-tac-toe is the limit of their mental faculties.....
Wed Feb 4, 2026, 04:12 PM
Feb 2026

On a good day, they can count to three without using fingers.

mr715

(4,171 posts)
14. Yup yup yup.
Wed Feb 4, 2026, 04:02 PM
Feb 2026

I know President Clinton and Secretary Clinton are going to run circles around Comer et al.

The GOP in Congress have no idea the forces they are meddling with.

For one, Sec. Clinton isn't even in the files, so it is blatantly a "witch hunt" on its face. Additionally, the Clintons are not political aspirants and need to be neutralized. They are, at best, elder statespeople. At worst, they have no influence on electoral politics anymore.

dlk

(13,343 posts)
18. And how many years has Jim Jordan thumbed his nose at his congressional subpoena?
Wed Feb 4, 2026, 04:21 PM
Feb 2026

The hypocrisy is epic.

GiqueCee

(4,746 posts)
19. Comer...
Wed Feb 4, 2026, 04:25 PM
Feb 2026

... you blithering idiot, it is rumored that there are telephone poles smarter than you. Careful what you wish for, dumbass.

intheflow

(30,253 posts)
20. Bullshit.
Wed Feb 4, 2026, 04:29 PM
Feb 2026

The only way Republicans will ever honor a Congressional subpoenas again is if they are already locked up and forced to comply by the bailiff. The Dems really screwed their own pooch by not hold Gym Jordan in contempt over his J6 subpoenas. Talk about shooting ourselves in the foot!

Response to bigtree (Original post)

progressoid

(53,387 posts)
24. Wait wait wait. So a family of known law breakers is suddenly going to agree to appear from a subpoena that has no teeth
Wed Feb 4, 2026, 04:48 PM
Feb 2026

just because the Clintons agreed to it?

On what fucking planet is this going to happen?

2naSalit

(103,812 posts)
42. That being said...
Wed Feb 4, 2026, 06:13 PM
Feb 2026

They will likely be regretting it a few minutes in because both of them have, individually, more intellect than the entire republican caucus on a bad day. It will be a two batch popcorn day for sure.

swong19104

(662 posts)
46. ... if
Wed Feb 4, 2026, 08:05 PM
Feb 2026

he’s still alive when the Dems take over. But all others, including Gym Jordan, will have to be escorted into the chamber by armed guards if they don’t voluntarily comply.

chicoescuela

(3,206 posts)
50. As much as I tend to agree with this, I don't see tsf ever testifying in Congress. Ever
Thu Feb 5, 2026, 12:21 AM
Feb 2026

I hope I’m wrong but he has skated through everything in life.
From pedophile to getting caught on tape talking about grabbing pussy. No one ever in the course of humanity has an individual escaped consequences. Maybe after 80 years it will happen?

augyboston

(379 posts)
58. Kentucky Representative James Comer is...
Thu Feb 5, 2026, 08:28 AM
Feb 2026

KY Rep James Comer is a fucking idiot and this proves it!

He and his cohorts on the House Oversight and Accountability committee have opened the door and the Democrats can't wait to pass through it.

What a complete moron!

AverageOldGuy

(4,175 posts)
61. And remember:
Thu Feb 5, 2026, 10:59 AM
Feb 2026

Trump is both the CURRENT SERVING President as well as being a FORMER President.

So subpoena FORMER President Trump.

LiberalArkie

(19,919 posts)
65. I can already hear it. The Democrats issue a subpoena to Trump, Trump says NO. Democrats say ok fine.
Thu Feb 5, 2026, 01:23 PM
Feb 2026

LetMyPeopleVote

(182,091 posts)
69. MaddowBlog-As Clintons prepare to answer questions about Epstein, Trump balks
Thu Feb 5, 2026, 08:03 PM
Feb 2026

Republican Rep. James Comer opened a door that has long been closed. His party might come to regret the decision.

As Clintons prepare to answer questions about Epstein, Trump balks

www.ms.now/rachel-maddo...

Mike Walker (@newnarrative.bsky.social) 2026-02-05T19:34:10.950Z

https://www.ms.now/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/as-clintons-prepare-to-answer-questions-about-epstein-trump-balks

It’s never been altogether clear why Rep. James Comer, the chairman of the House Oversight Committee, launched a crusade to get Bill and Hillary Clinton to testify as part of his panel’s Jeffrey Epstein investigation. But the Kentucky Republican did it anyway, even issuing first-of-their-kind subpoenas to compel the Democrats’ testimony.....

“So let’s stop the games,” Hillary Clinton added. “If you want this fight, @RepJamesComer, let’s have it — in public. You love to talk about transparency. There’s nothing more transparent than a public hearing, cameras on. We will be there.”

The hapless committee chairman hasn’t yet responded, but in the meantime, there’s also a larger context to all of this. The New York Times reported that no former president has ever been compelled to testify to Congress under subpoena, and Comer has set a precedent his party might ultimately come to regret.

Members of Congress don’t necessarily think that is a good thing; they want the ability to bring in former presidents when they are relevant witnesses and may have something meaningful to say. And Mr. Comer’s move was a rare power play by a Republican lawmaker at a time when the G.O.P.-led House and Senate have ceded much of their power to the White House.

But his accomplishment also amounted to a remarkable use of government power to target a political adversary — the kind seen more often in autocratic societies where a peaceful transfer of power is not a given because leaders fear ending up in prison after leaving office. And it was one that some experts said further chipped away at the country’s democratic norms.


Rep. Jamie Raskin of Maryland, the top Democrat on the House Judiciary Committee, told the Times that “like all powers of Congress or any other branch, these are powers that can be abused. We’re living in a period of spectacular abuse of power.”.....

It was against this backdrop that NBC News’ Tom Llamas reminded the incumbent president: “Democrats are already saying if you bring President Bill Clinton and he has to testify, we’re bringing President Trump.” Before the anchor could finish his question about this, Trump interjected.

“Well, I think they might say that, you know? But they’ve already brought me. See, I’ve been brought,” the president replied. “They had me indicted, many, many times. Many, many times.”

Like so many of the president’s comments, this didn’t make any sense at all — congressional Democrats had nothing to do with the many criminal charges Trump has faced — though the response suggested he’s not at all eager to answer questions about Epstein, even if subpoenaed in future years, and even if the Clintons cooperate.

trump may be worried about being called before congress after his term is up. I personally do not believe that trump will survive to the end of his term in order to be forced to testify. trump may be worried because he cannot conceive of dying

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