I had to look this up to make sure it wasn't satire

FFS

We have to meet those quotas!

(Shakes head sadly at the disturbing disgusting world that TFG has created)

I am not okay with people not paying support, but sending them away removes all ways to encumber any earnings

Wouldn't that actually stop them from going away?

Is sending them away.

Do you believe it should be repealed?

https://www.congress.gov/bill/105th-congress/house-bill/3811

Please understand what I am saying, if earnings can be liened upon for support, those earnings must be made within the jurisdiction. If you deport someone, those earnings will no longer be available.

If the courts and the claimants have failed to place those liens, they should rectify their errors.

If an earner is removed, that possibility leaves with them.

Everyone is responsible for paying and collecting.

You can be deported with or without one.

I cannot seem to explain how to extract support monies to you.

I actually support this policy. Too many deadbeat parents.

...would do the bad things described. So it seems, "reading for sense". I could be wrong...

Of course a USA passport revoked is not same as visa/residency revoked.

Although, if the debt is abroad, maybe there is a point here...

Citizen's from other countries don't have US passports

It gave custodial parents the tools they needed to enforce their child support orders. It is used for those that are in extreme arrears and revoking drivers license or passports are usually temporary until a payment plan is entered into.


BTW this legislation was put in place durring Clinton administration.

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I'm less than 10 years from retiring, and we want to live in another country. But I fear the current cabal, if they're still in power then, will require people to live in the US to receive their social security benefits.

SS, Sate retirement or Vet benefits, that ain’t going with you. So forget retirement, you will need to work wherever you go. And not every country is gonna welcome our asses to drain their health care systems. Most of us will never be able to leave. But I don’t blame those that can.
But it does make veterans like myself think, What the Fuck, how is this thanking us for our service and many of us the ultimate sacrifice, dying for this place?
For people now doing the Hawley shuffle when the country calls for you to fight, Not necessarily physical fight, But just what you can minimally do to serve and honor all that have.
Many are gonna find other countries will start closing their own boundaries. Not so welcoming to gun worshipping, or people that elect child rapers, or just becoming. Drain on their economy or just overcrowding and food shortages.
I would move to go to Sweden, Norway, Denmark and other snowy places, but that will never happen. I am not Wealthy enough and part of my military sacrifice has shown up in my ladder years with physical pain that will not survive another long term job. But if ya can, I guess do it.
That is part of the freedom we fought for you to have.

My SS can be deposited into my US bank and I can live where ever I want and use my debit card there.

When the country falls it ain’t going into any damn bank. They are hell bent on ending it all. Guardrails, long gone. Project 2025 has it in writing, and they are checking off every damn line.
Nonsense!!! Like all they have already accomplished.
We thought masked secret police blowing out innocent brains was nonsense. Or Dodge being allowed full access to all the SS, VA info.
But like I said, you go if you can. I don’t blame you, but I will fight again, as I did will I joined with a draft number that would never be called up.
Just understand it DOES piss off many vets that gave all or extremes to sacrifice for this damn country, when people say I am gonna run.
We will not be welcome everywhere to countries already straining economically and just running out of space. Wish you luck. Wish I could have the option. So many do not.

it makes things more pleasant.

Why would the govt have some secret plan to not allow people to travel?
Makes no sense. But conspiracy theories rarely do.

Is there some other plan you are talking about?
People already have their driver's license suspended for non-compliance in paying child support that is much more serious pain in my opinion.

You said don't pretend it wouldn't be me soon but I don't have any child support so that seems highly unlikely

like Liam. and Good. and Preti.

they’ll never com for us.

This legislation was put into place during the Clinton administration. It allowed many custodial parents the tools needed to enforce their child support orders
I was one of those parents. Durring the 80s and 90s my ex would move from state to state or his employer would ignore my child support order. This law made it easier to collect by enacting state and federal penalties for non payment.
My ex earned three times what I did, his child support was $350 a month for four children. By the time this legislation was enacted he was 50k in arrears.
His job required security clearance, which was denied (temporarily) until he entered a monthly payment plan. Because of this legislation.
BTW he was a republican who didn't believe in the government telling him what to do with "his" money.
This legislation has helped children receive the support they are entitled to. It's not new and if you read the article, revoking driver's license and passports are used for those parents who owe extreme amounts of back child support. This has been going on since 1998.
In my opinion a republican who got caught not paying his child support is stiring the pot
Pay your child support and you will be ok

The Child Support Recovery Act of 1992 made it a federal offense to willfully fail to pay support for a child living in another state. This law was later strengthened by the Deadbeat Parents Punishment Act of 1998, which introduced felony-level offenses for the most serious cases of child support evasion.

As it stands, it's just anothr mechanism to remove people from thier homes, neighborhoods and nation.

How about they support their children?

I tend to believe it's naive to think it will be used by the administation for its stated purpose. If I thought it would be used toi target all deadbeats, sure. But I don't hold that particular opinion (rafts are not my thing...)

And still support it. My ex moved from state to state in the 80s and 90s. It was next to impossible to enforce my child support order due to different laws throughout the individual states. This legislation made it uniform. It also made it harder for employers to ignore child support orders. It also made it harder for the non custodial parent to hide income and assets.
You have to be extremely in arrears to lose your passport.
My ex was over 50k in arrears and lost his security clearance but only until he agreed to a payment plan on his arrears and paid his current monthly child support.
Before anyone feels sorry for him or upset with me for causing his temporary loss off security clearance you need to know he earned three times what I did and his monthly payment for four children was 350 dollars.
This is just a distraction. More high earning Republicans have been forced to support their children with this legislation. My ex was one of those Republicans.

from their home and neighborhood because they are in prison for not paying child support, I have absolutely no problem with that.

In fact, if all that happens is the revocation of their passport, they got off lucky!

hypothetically

Just means they can't leave the country on vacation till they get caught up on child support. Good

You are usually put on a payment plan that includes a percentage of back support due plus current monthly payment. There is a formula used to calculate the percentage of arrears due added to current monthly payments. Based on your income.

...or that they cannot prove they are a citizen, for purposes of employment, say, then this is just as messed up as any other way that the Trumpists are chipping away at the number of people who can vote.

This says absolutely nothing about paying child support. (I mean, duh.) But consider this: if the regime can essentially take anyway your ID papers for nonpayment of child support, what is to stop them from preventing people who are behind in their student loans from having a valid passport?

As long as the Trumpists are trying to require passports or other proof of citizenship to vote, any reason for the passport to be taken away should be resisted.

If any idea that comes from the Trump regime sounds like a good one, keep looking for how it benefits the regime's long term plans.

Only half of all Americans hold a valid Passport anyway. Anyone who holds a Passport already has all the documents needed to prove citizenship.

How about someone who has the financial means to travel out of the country start paying their fucking child support?

Please see where I already stated that people should pay child support, the sentence that ends with "duh." That was to set that as a baseline. No need for foul language.

It is not true that someone who had at one time the documents needed to obtain a passport would be able to present them for purposes of voting. For one category of voters, it rules out the vast majority of the trans people I know. Rules for obtaining correct passports have drastically changed over the years, and that was even before the "Real ID" version of document fascism entered the picture. I am sure there are other groups -- for instance, many people whose lives have been upended by fire and flood would be able to get a new passport, but not the original documents.

I simply see no reason to connect having a valid passport -- the basic document of citizenship, whether one likes it or not -- to the entirely separate matter of complying with child support. (Whoever is in power in Washington.) And to hand over this expansion of control to the Trumpists gives them another weapon to use against people.

Passports are required travel documents, nothing more.

... especially if you have had a name change. The SAVE Act mess shows the flaws of assuming birth certificates are sufficient by themselves as proof of citizenship.

https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/analysis-opinion/new-save-act-bills-would-still-block-millions-americans-voting

Anyway, it's not worth trying to prove the point any more. I'm surprised there are people here who aren't a bit more inquisitive about why the regime wants to revoke passports, instead of simply enforcing the existing laws.

This is an existing law from the Clinton era. They are enforcing existing laws.

But the poster above is asking why they have to make new laws and what is behind it. It is an old law.

They are going after those owing tens of thousands of dollars in past due child support.

Placed on a tether and only allowed to leave jail to go to work and then required to go back to jail until the next work day. Wages seized to satisfy the past due child support.

Fine, let them keep their passports, but prohibit them from going anywhere other than jail or work. I bet they would figure out a way to start paying it off real quick

The only time a passport is needed for US Citizens is to travel out of the USA and return. It is not required to prove citizenship within the USA.

It is a very easy proof of citizenship if that is needed, but it is not required. One only needs proof of birth in the USA,. or naturalization papers, if you are a naturalized citizen.

As someone above pointed out, only about half of the US population has a passport.

Misinformation abounds.

Of people who are both in massive child support arrears and hold a passport.

My nieve hypothesis is that it is going to mostly impact affluent men. Probably white ones.

Will go you one better
My opinion is an affluent rebuilcan got caught owing back child support because of this legislation and is stiring the pot.