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edhopper

(37,273 posts)
Sun Feb 15, 2026, 06:43 PM Feb 15

I did not anticipate the destruction of our history

I knew the Trump presidency would be bad, worse than most said. But what I did not see coming was the ruthless carnage of our collective history for fascist, bigoted reasons. And none of this will be fixed by the flip of a switch in the next Administration. It is gone, as Kansas sang "dust in the wind".
Not since the burning of the Library at Alexandria or the shredding of the books from the Mayan Empire has the wholesale removal of written history, which has taken centuries of scholarship and research, seen such a level of barbarity.
What this loathsome Pig has done to the Smithsonian, the Pentagon, the CDC, NASA, the National Parks and every collection he and his minions can get their disgusting hands on is beyond unpardonable. He has thrown out so much, and I don't see how we will ever recover much of it.
It is not still out there only to be returned, it is gone.

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I did not anticipate the destruction of our history (Original Post) edhopper Feb 15 OP
I worry not Trumpdumper Feb 15 #1
History hasn't been destroyed, indusurb Feb 15 #2
You are right kwolf68 Feb 15 #3
Reality will set in. cachukis Feb 15 #4
Yes. And so will the history of these fascist fks. Sooner or later B.See Feb 15 #9
I really feel bad for ALL young people today bluestarone Feb 15 #5
I share your sentiment. This is SO much worse than I thought. yellow dahlia Feb 15 #6
A group was archiving government webpages BlueWaveNeverEnd Feb 15 #7
1984 - The memory hole... Wounded Bear Feb 15 #8
This has all happened before. OC375 Feb 15 #10
When it happened in Alexandria edhopper Feb 15 #13
We don't know what we lost OC375 Feb 15 #24
Im hoping some employees took stuff home. Figarosmom Feb 15 #11
Probably some edhopper Feb 15 #14
Years in the future Figarosmom Feb 16 #28
Shades of Iraq.. Hope22 Feb 15 #12
I remember books. BidenRocks Feb 15 #15
Much of what the government had edhopper Feb 15 #16
I am depressed every day. BidenRocks Feb 15 #17
Source? NJCher Feb 16 #27
The articles I read edhopper Feb 16 #30
I'd have to see NJCher Feb 16 #31
History is like your integrity maxrandb Feb 15 #18
We still know Aristotle's Poetics despite it being burned. mr715 Feb 15 #19
There might have been 100 other plays edhopper Feb 15 #20
Well, that makes me sad. mr715 Feb 15 #21
He was not wrong edhopper Feb 15 #23
Idk, I thought Plato came off professorial mr715 Feb 16 #25
I believe that the backlash against this administration, will be Jack Valentino Feb 15 #22
The markodochartaigh Feb 16 #26
Yep. i agree. But ultimately, i guess the American people as a whole didn't deserve it. lostnfound Feb 16 #29

Trumpdumper

(226 posts)
1. I worry not
Sun Feb 15, 2026, 06:47 PM
Feb 15

Burning books has never worked as the arc of the moral
universe inevitably bends toward justice.

indusurb

(329 posts)
2. History hasn't been destroyed,
Sun Feb 15, 2026, 06:58 PM
Feb 15

It has been saved and has gone into hiding. It will return when appropriate. The government, though a vast repository of history, is not the be all and end all of it. Our history is scattered throughout our country, and we are all part of it.

kwolf68

(8,445 posts)
3. You are right
Sun Feb 15, 2026, 07:01 PM
Feb 15

Nazis, fascists and authoritarians in the past probably thought taking over the world would allow them to disseminate their own version of history, but they always end up losing in the end. The current fascists are so full of their own hubris and arrogance they don't know that despite their attempts at brainwashing and sanitizing US history to bend to their whims, they too eventually will fall into the dustpin of history along with the other garbage that came before them. They simply refuse to see the same fate will happen to them.

bluestarone

(22,000 posts)
5. I really feel bad for ALL young people today
Sun Feb 15, 2026, 07:07 PM
Feb 15

I wish i could do more to stop this insanity today. I just hate, that our courts cannot protect our country.

yellow dahlia

(5,572 posts)
6. I share your sentiment. This is SO much worse than I thought.
Sun Feb 15, 2026, 07:49 PM
Feb 15

And I was one of the Chicken Littles after the (illegitimate) election.

I am too old to see the repairs in my lifetime, and I am not THAT old. But I hope the computer technology will hold all the information, as some scribes did through history.

Figarosmom

(11,387 posts)
28. Years in the future
Mon Feb 16, 2026, 02:22 AM
Feb 16

Some of it may show up on Antiques Roadshow from dumpster divers or relatives finding something in their attic or in grandpa's trunk.

BidenRocks

(3,138 posts)
15. I remember books.
Sun Feb 15, 2026, 09:38 PM
Feb 15

Sentimentally wonderful. The feel and smell.
Also fragile.
The cloud now has the accumulated knowledge of humanity!
I hope!

edhopper

(37,273 posts)
30. The articles I read
Mon Feb 16, 2026, 08:54 AM
Feb 16

about the NASA Library and what Kegsbreath is doing at the Pentagon said this.
Can't run down those articles right now. Sorry.

NJCher

(42,956 posts)
31. I'd have to see
Mon Feb 16, 2026, 10:19 AM
Feb 16

The articles before I’d believe this.

Until then, it is highly dubious.

maxrandb

(17,380 posts)
18. History is like your integrity
Sun Feb 15, 2026, 10:50 PM
Feb 15

Last edited Sun Feb 15, 2026, 11:27 PM - Edit history (1)

It can't be taken from you, you have to give it away.

I am not giving shit away to these fascist asspickles.

Pharoah couldn't erase it. Alexander the Great couldn't erase it. Caesar couldn't erase it. Hitler couldn't erase it.

The Donnie Dipshit "legacy", is only going to be remembered for how quickly the worthless shit he's done is torn the fuck down.

His stupid fucking ball-sucking room. His stupid fucking arch, his fucked-up name on The Kennedy Center, his worthless fucking participation trophies...all of it is going to be fucking blown up, like the concrete swastika atop the Nuremberg Parade Grounds.

I am investing heavily in sledgehammers and pick axes.

His ignorant, fascist foreign policy. His bastardization of the DoD, DoJ, FDA, NHA, etc., his tax cuts for billionaires, his tantrum tariffs...it will all crumble like a house of cards.

It's going to take work and sacrifice, but you'll be shocked by how quickly he will be forgotten.

Oh, there will be footnotes of shame about this MAGAt shit in history books, but this asshat is going to end up as significant to mankind as a flea farting in a hurricane.

He will be missed about as much as a case of the crabs, chlamydia, or dick cancer.

He will be in hell, and as the flames are lapping around his nuts, he'll look up and realize that no one is talking about him, or gives one fuck about him.

It might be worth going to hell just to witness it.

He's a genital wart. You don't fondly remember it, you're just glad it's fucking gone.

Don't make him more significant than he truly is. We will remember him like we remember William Henry Harrison.

My hope is that he lives long enough, so that he will see the day when someone mentions his name, and we all have to go to our search browser and type; "is Donnie Dipshit even still alive?"

edhopper

(37,273 posts)
20. There might have been 100 other plays
Sun Feb 15, 2026, 11:04 PM
Feb 15

by Sophocles we will never know.
And over 150 of Aristotle's works are lost.
There are works gone forever.

The entire written record of the Mayan civilization was burned.

Will never be seen

mr715

(3,375 posts)
21. Well, that makes me sad.
Sun Feb 15, 2026, 11:06 PM
Feb 15

Let me glibly submit that at least Aristotle was wrong about everything.


But, friend, yeah -- imagine if history had not burned those libraries where we would be.

... we'd be here.

mr715

(3,375 posts)
25. Idk, I thought Plato came off professorial
Mon Feb 16, 2026, 12:05 AM
Feb 16

I like Plato and Nietzsche for writing into their work their own philosophy. Aristotle figured out textbooks before they were a thing.

Socrates is my hero, but if I think about him too much, there is all this Epstein stuff...

Jack Valentino

(4,861 posts)
22. I believe that the backlash against this administration, will be
Sun Feb 15, 2026, 11:07 PM
Feb 15

'the greatest backlash that has ever been seen---
NO ONE has ever seen a backlash like this'---





markodochartaigh

(5,406 posts)
26. The
Mon Feb 16, 2026, 12:17 AM
Feb 16

English burned huge amounts of Irish books and records when they destroyed the monasteries where they were kept. I think that it is a common way to destroy a culture. "Who controls the past controls the future, who controls the present controls the past." And of course, "history is written by the victor."
And what makes both of these more damaging, the modern US dictum, "I don't know and I don't care."

lostnfound

(17,476 posts)
29. Yep. i agree. But ultimately, i guess the American people as a whole didn't deserve it.
Mon Feb 16, 2026, 06:04 AM
Feb 16

Best to detach oneself from illusions of American grandeur. We will be going through worse.

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