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riversedge

(80,488 posts)
Tue Feb 17, 2026, 04:46 PM Feb 17

The delegations from the UK and France joined the talks between Russia, the US, and Ukraine in Geneva without being invi

I have so often wondered why only the US were talking about ending the war on Ukraine--and no other important European countries.

The delegations from the UK and France joined the talks between Russia, the US, and Ukraine in Geneva without being invited. I think this really messed up the plans to quickly "sort everything out" behind Europe's back and push for the annexation of Donbas — which is obviously what the US and Russian delegates were planning to do. London and Paris made it clear: no agreements about Europe without Europe. This is an extremely important show of support and a demonstration of their position. Thank you very much.


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The delegations from the UK and France joined the talks between Russia, the US, and Ukraine in Geneva without being invi (Original Post) riversedge Feb 17 OP
Great !!! lamp_shade Feb 17 #1
AWESOME!! vapor2 Feb 17 #2
Real estate for billionaires is what Trump and Kushner want. ananda Feb 17 #12
Wow!! blue-wave Feb 17 #3
I want to see even more of Europe asserting itself like this. DavidDvorkin Feb 17 #4
No time brakester Feb 17 #10
GOOD! Chasstev365 Feb 17 #5
Love it! liberalla Feb 17 #6
We need brakester Feb 17 #14
Transparency, Baby! Brother Buzz Feb 17 #7
Great!! brer cat Feb 17 #8
Love it! Fuck TrumPutin! KPN Feb 17 #9
good Evolve Dammit Feb 17 #11
Love this!! bluestarone Feb 17 #13
Yeah, well duh. Wednesdays Feb 17 #15
Who actually is responsible for peace in Ukraine Melon Feb 17 #16

vapor2

(4,334 posts)
2. AWESOME!!
Tue Feb 17, 2026, 05:02 PM
Feb 17

and hopefully threw off Kushner and Witkoff. Asking again, what effn role is Kushner in?

brakester

(582 posts)
14. We need
Tue Feb 17, 2026, 07:51 PM
Feb 17

a Reverse Marshall Plan. Let's draw on our charitable savings account we have accrued when we wisely and humanely helped rebuild our allies' decimated countries after the insanity of the major world wars. They are our friends. We can ask for help. Helping us will help them. There's never been a time that we have needed our European friends more.

https://www.whistleblowers.org/news/reinvigorating-anti-corruption-how-the-reverse-marshall-plan-can-guide-new-international-leadership/#:~:text=As%20detailed%20in%20the%20Reverse,transnational%20enforcement%20of%20the%20FCPA.%E2%80%9D

Melon

(1,449 posts)
16. Who actually is responsible for peace in Ukraine
Tue Feb 17, 2026, 08:15 PM
Feb 17

Can Ukraine just push everyone out and negotiate with Russia? I’m not understanding why everyone negotiates on their behalf.

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