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British comedy elder John Cleese has announced that he will be steering clear of British Columbia on an upcoming Canadian tour, owing to fears that he will be prosecuted for non-adherence to gender ideology.
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Cleese, 86, made the declaration in a Saturday social media post issued in response to a $750,000 fine being imposed on a former Chilliwack, B.C. school trustee who refuses to believe that gender is a social construct.
What a pity! Im arranging a theatrical tour of Canada this Fall, and now I wont be able to risk doing any shows in British Columbia, wrote Cleese, adding, I was really looking forward to coming.
In a Feb. 18 ruling by the B.C. Human Rights Tribunal, former trustee Barry Neufeld was ordered to pay $750,000 to an unnamed consortium of transgender teachers because he had publicly questioned the provinces policy that an individuals gender is whatever he or she declares it to be.
https://vancouversun.com/opinion/john-cleese-bc-gender-ideology/wcm/fb754e48-6e28-4142-b58b-3b486243276b
Hassin Bin Sober
(27,436 posts)I almost think someone hijacked his account
SocialDemocrat61
(7,375 posts)got freaky fridayed LOL
Initech
(108,334 posts)Hassin Bin Sober
(27,436 posts)

marble falls
(71,536 posts)Sympthsical
(10,935 posts)Jesus Christ.
Canada has many fine qualities to admire. That is definitely not one of them. No matter what any of us think about the man's opinion, that is no bueno. Woof.
And calling yourself a Tribunal is really not helping the Orwellian cartoon authoritarian image of it all.
Fiendish Thingy
(22,690 posts)Sympthsical
(10,935 posts)And I'm still not clear exactly on how his position worked. Just fire him or vote him out?
But I'm walking out the door to a pediatric final exam, so it'll have to keep til the weekend. I will look at it, tho.
Swede
(39,017 posts)Western countries are waking up to it.
Sympthsical
(10,935 posts)And free expression is a thing liberals value.
Or at least, that's what I've believed my entire life. I know others are evolving in a different direction on that one, but I hold no space for it.
I'm a gay man. I've heard plenty of speech in my life. I still find the principle too valuable in a functioning democracy.
But if people want to create a structure where Trump or a government like his gets to decide what's hateful, go ahead and erect those gallows, I suppose.
pcdb
(94 posts)This is a great example of why we shouldn't have hate speech laws. They get abused to silence opinions the party in power doesn't like.
usonian
(24,475 posts)In character?

I find his arguments fawlty.
Fiendish Thingy
(22,690 posts)Dont take the rantings of a geriatric has been at face value.
Neufield was a trustee, and used his position and authority to create a toxic, hostile work environment for trans teachers for years.
Swede
(39,017 posts)Nt
leftstreet
(39,862 posts)What is he, 86 or something?
Oh
Torchlight
(6,657 posts)but dismissing and trivializing minority groups has become a widespread, often passive tool of contributing to harm against the vulnerable, too often tacitly supported by less-than-on-point arguments.
Oneironaut
(6,264 posts)Others also reserve the right to point out how stupid those jokes are, and, that isnt canceling. For example, if youre making I identify as an attack helicopter jokes in 2026, you absolutely suck and need to get better material.
MustLoveBeagles
(15,592 posts)I'd always liked and admired him. That's been diminished. And age isn't an excuse for bigotry.
haele
(15,273 posts)She kept confusing Trans with either Gay or Lesbian Drag Queens/Panto performers or Traps (Queer who pretend to be Cis for money or dates).
It took a while, but she eventually understood our co-worker Morgan was serious about being female, not play-acting.
Eddie/Susan Izzard identifies openly as Trans- Fluid, and very much accepted by Brits in the business - because frankly, most who have a problem with Trans or Gender Fluid see it as Panto.
I suspect Cleese, like most TERFS, just have a really selfish, petty problem with Trans folk being serious about pronouns and gendered bathroom use.
They see it as a joke or act, and see themselves much too important to be corrected or expected to be concerned when it comes to the real world or everyday life.
But I really, really don't understand the virulent hatred of something that isn't frankly something that isn't an attack on them personally, especially when they supposedly already support or accept the LGB and Q(+) members in LGBTQ(+ )...
MustLoveBeagles
(15,592 posts)I thought the Europeans were ahead of us as far as that's concerned. You learn something new every day. I didn't know Eddie/Susan was Trans. I wish them nothing but the best. I've never understood the hate either. I think it says more about the hater than it does their target.
Qutzupalotl
(15,769 posts)which has been floating around the internet for years.
https://ia600206.us.archive.org/4/items/jeffrey-epsteins-little-black-book-redacted/jeffrey-epsteins-little-black-book-redacted.pdf
Being listed is not incriminating on its own, since Epstein did some charity work. But now that countries which are not the United States are investigating and prosecuting people connected to Epstein, it seems like a fine time to make up a flimsy excuse to avoid international travel and the scrutiny that comes with it.