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Floyd R. Turbo

(32,655 posts)
Thu Feb 26, 2026, 08:38 AM 16 hrs ago

John Cleese says he's now avoiding B.C. because of crackdown on gender identity criticism

British comedy elder John Cleese has announced that he will be steering clear of British Columbia on an upcoming Canadian tour, owing to fears that he will be prosecuted for non-adherence to gender ideology.

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Cleese, 86, made the declaration in a Saturday social media post issued in response to a $750,000 fine being imposed on a former Chilliwack, B.C. school trustee who refuses to believe that gender is a “social construct.”

“What a pity! I’m arranging a theatrical tour of Canada this Fall, and now I won’t be able to risk doing any shows in British Columbia,” wrote Cleese, adding, “I was really looking forward to coming.”

In a Feb. 18 ruling by the B.C. Human Rights Tribunal, former trustee Barry Neufeld was ordered to pay $750,000 to an unnamed consortium of transgender teachers because he had publicly questioned the province’s policy that an individual’s gender is whatever he or she declares it to be.

https://vancouversun.com/opinion/john-cleese-bc-gender-ideology/wcm/fb754e48-6e28-4142-b58b-3b486243276b

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John Cleese says he's now avoiding B.C. because of crackdown on gender identity criticism (Original Post) Floyd R. Turbo 16 hrs ago OP
The guy has lost it. He's all over twitter posting anti trans anti woke bullshit Hassin Bin Sober 16 hrs ago #1
Maybe he and Bill Maher SocialDemocrat61 14 hrs ago #5
Oh damn it. I don't want to have to boycott Monty Python. Initech 13 hrs ago #14
Not looking good. Here he is today falling for some anti Muslim fake news. He's lost the plot. Hassin Bin Sober 13 hrs ago #16
😃🇺🇸🥢🗓️❗️ marble falls 16 hrs ago #2
I think fining someone $750k for speech is the bigger headline there Sympthsical 15 hrs ago #3
See post #6. Nt Fiendish Thingy 14 hrs ago #7
I tried to read into it Sympthsical 13 hrs ago #13
Hate speech is bad for society. Swede 14 hrs ago #9
Sorry, I'm still a liberal Sympthsical 13 hrs ago #12
Having the wrong opinion isn't hate speech. pcdb 10 hrs ago #21
(High) Kick. usonian 14 hrs ago #4
Here is a link to a more complete and detailed report Fiendish Thingy 14 hrs ago #6
He had a campaign against it. Swede 14 hrs ago #8
2026 and he's making jokes about gender? leftstreet 13 hrs ago #10
I suppose a few fans will try to minimize this Torchlight 13 hrs ago #11
People should be able to make stupid, ignorant jokes without being prosecuted or fined. Oneironaut 13 hrs ago #15
I'm really disappointed in in John Cleese MustLoveBeagles 12 hrs ago #17
I had to explain Trans to a Brit expat about a decade ago... haele 12 hrs ago #19
Thank you for your response MustLoveBeagles 11 hrs ago #20
Cleese was listed in Epstein's "little black book" Qutzupalotl 12 hrs ago #18

Hassin Bin Sober

(27,436 posts)
1. The guy has lost it. He's all over twitter posting anti trans anti woke bullshit
Thu Feb 26, 2026, 08:47 AM
16 hrs ago

I almost think someone hijacked his account

Hassin Bin Sober

(27,436 posts)
16. Not looking good. Here he is today falling for some anti Muslim fake news. He's lost the plot.
Thu Feb 26, 2026, 11:54 AM
13 hrs ago


Sympthsical

(10,935 posts)
3. I think fining someone $750k for speech is the bigger headline there
Thu Feb 26, 2026, 09:12 AM
15 hrs ago

Jesus Christ.

Canada has many fine qualities to admire. That is definitely not one of them. No matter what any of us think about the man's opinion, that is no bueno. Woof.

And calling yourself a Tribunal is really not helping the Orwellian cartoon authoritarian image of it all.

Sympthsical

(10,935 posts)
13. I tried to read into it
Thu Feb 26, 2026, 11:05 AM
13 hrs ago

And I'm still not clear exactly on how his position worked. Just fire him or vote him out?

But I'm walking out the door to a pediatric final exam, so it'll have to keep til the weekend. I will look at it, tho.

Sympthsical

(10,935 posts)
12. Sorry, I'm still a liberal
Thu Feb 26, 2026, 11:04 AM
13 hrs ago

And free expression is a thing liberals value.

Or at least, that's what I've believed my entire life. I know others are evolving in a different direction on that one, but I hold no space for it.

I'm a gay man. I've heard plenty of speech in my life. I still find the principle too valuable in a functioning democracy.

But if people want to create a structure where Trump or a government like his gets to decide what's hateful, go ahead and erect those gallows, I suppose.

pcdb

(94 posts)
21. Having the wrong opinion isn't hate speech.
Thu Feb 26, 2026, 02:03 PM
10 hrs ago

This is a great example of why we shouldn't have hate speech laws. They get abused to silence opinions the party in power doesn't like.

Fiendish Thingy

(22,690 posts)
6. Here is a link to a more complete and detailed report
Thu Feb 26, 2026, 10:49 AM
14 hrs ago
https://www.ctvnews.ca/vancouver/article/former-bc-school-trustee-ordered-to-pay-750k-in-discrimination-hate-speech-complaint/

Don’t take the rantings of a geriatric has been at face value.

Neufield was a trustee, and used his position and authority to create a toxic, hostile work environment for trans teachers for years.

Torchlight

(6,657 posts)
11. I suppose a few fans will try to minimize this
Thu Feb 26, 2026, 11:03 AM
13 hrs ago

but dismissing and trivializing minority groups has become a widespread, often passive tool of contributing to harm against the vulnerable, too often tacitly supported by less-than-on-point arguments.

Oneironaut

(6,264 posts)
15. People should be able to make stupid, ignorant jokes without being prosecuted or fined.
Thu Feb 26, 2026, 11:22 AM
13 hrs ago

Others also reserve the right to point out how stupid those jokes are, and, that isn’t “canceling.” For example, if you’re making “I identify as an attack helicopter” jokes in 2026, you absolutely suck and need to get better material.

MustLoveBeagles

(15,592 posts)
17. I'm really disappointed in in John Cleese
Thu Feb 26, 2026, 12:09 PM
12 hrs ago

I'd always liked and admired him. That's been diminished. And age isn't an excuse for bigotry.

haele

(15,273 posts)
19. I had to explain Trans to a Brit expat about a decade ago...
Thu Feb 26, 2026, 12:49 PM
12 hrs ago

She kept confusing Trans with either Gay or Lesbian Drag Queens/Panto performers or Traps (Queer who pretend to be Cis for money or dates).
It took a while, but she eventually understood our co-worker Morgan was serious about being female, not play-acting.

Eddie/Susan Izzard identifies openly as Trans- Fluid, and very much accepted by Brits in the business - because frankly, most who have a problem with Trans or Gender Fluid see it as Panto.

I suspect Cleese, like most TERFS, just have a really selfish, petty problem with Trans folk being serious about pronouns and gendered bathroom use.
They see it as a joke or act, and see themselves much too important to be corrected or expected to be concerned when it comes to the real world or everyday life.
But I really, really don't understand the virulent hatred of something that isn't frankly something that isn't an attack on them personally, especially when they supposedly already support or accept the LGB and Q(+) members in LGBTQ(+ )...

MustLoveBeagles

(15,592 posts)
20. Thank you for your response
Thu Feb 26, 2026, 01:38 PM
11 hrs ago

I thought the Europeans were ahead of us as far as that's concerned. You learn something new every day. I didn't know Eddie/Susan was Trans. I wish them nothing but the best. I've never understood the hate either. I think it says more about the hater than it does their target.

Qutzupalotl

(15,769 posts)
18. Cleese was listed in Epstein's "little black book"
Thu Feb 26, 2026, 12:14 PM
12 hrs ago

which has been floating around the internet for years.

https://ia600206.us.archive.org/4/items/jeffrey-epsteins-little-black-book-redacted/jeffrey-epsteins-little-black-book-redacted.pdf

Being listed is not incriminating on its own, since Epstein did some charity work. But now that countries which are not the United States are investigating and prosecuting people connected to Epstein, it seems like a fine time to make up a flimsy excuse to avoid international travel and the scrutiny that comes with it.

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