Or just more/enough money/arms to get the job done?

Of course, if Orban loses his election next month, and the EU loan goes through, Zelensky won’t need the US at all.

Can we give them arms, when we need them in Iran?

Not sure if weapons are even on the bargaining table. But exchange of information might be a thing.

In the end, the NATO allies will be the bull who holds the cape while both Trump and Putin are kneeling and begging for mercy.

Trump and Putin will be the bulls.

And I like plots where the hunted becomes the hunter.

The metaphor escaped me,

A LOT

because everyone knows krasnov is a fucking deadbeat.

"And don't fuck up the mission this time, Junior."

We all know how to be a bit passive aggressive when we have to be...

Me, as a true "Walking Dead "Fan..... Just like Eugene helped make bullets for Negan to fight Rick....made some good ones with majority all exploding in the gun chamber....

Trump finding out what Democrats have known since the Revolutionary War times.

nt

Might trigger Zelenskyy in the negotiations.

Ukraine has reportedly changed the face of war with their drone innovation, production and use on the battlefield. Ukrainian drones have proved cheap to produce, nimble and absolutely deadly. Of course, they had no choice because Russia was lobbing hundreds of Iranian drones on the Ukrainian population.

But this! This is too, too delicious. After all of Trump's treachery and insults, the fact that the United States is seeking Ukrainian help with drone warfare is beyond ironic. Also a reminder why allies are important particularly in wartime.

Who has the leverage now, Donnie?

Iran was not a threat to the US yet was attacked, just as Ukraine was attacked. Zelensky humbled himself to the world in order to get assistance for the defense of his country. And now, Ukraine is offering to assist a country who decided to attack a country out of the blue, like they were attacked.
This is a world without moral or value, and none of it makes any sense to me.

for advice. I really want NATO membership for Ukraine, but not at the expense of selling its soul. It can't afford to take its eyes off Russia.

Trump insists that what happens to Ukraine is irrelevant to US. Europe is just taking advantage of us! And here is an 11th hour, concrete evidence of the power of allies and how much Ukraine would bring to the table if added to EU & NATO.

a true winning bet on that action..... No matter if help given in sincere....Zelinsky can play it smart...save face....

But, I'm now wondering if part of the reason why Hegseth kept trying to block weapons shipments for Ukraine is because they knew the Iran war was being secretly planned and they wanted as many weapons as possible.

Trump will be known as the ultimate Manchurian president. Even fooled the MAGAs.

Iran into oblivion for decades. In repayment for helping trump in stealing the 2024 election, and in response for not releasing the full mossad version of the epstein files, I'm sure trump has known since his own election that this was going to be the payback.

The carrot: The Gaza Strip for Kushner to develop.

The stick: The Epstein files.

So a logical quid pro quo for Ukraine would be to ask for concrete support in eliminating Russia's drone production facilities.

It could eventually complete that task on its own, but intelligence assistance and a supply of EW-hardened long-range missiles would speed things up and benefit a number of countries.

If Trump won't play ball, there are a lot of rich Gulf states that could help out directly, or twist Trump's arm.

With his track record, we just can't trust him.

Zelenskyy should make certain that some Ukrainian intelligence on combatting aerial drones isn’t shared, because we know TSF will share information with Putin.

Obliterating Iran’s drone production facilities should be a precondition, also.

Krasnov cannot be trusted.

Maybe just maybe it counteracts that whole "why are we giving ALL our money to Ukraine..." narrative among MAGA! How about "hey... if they can help US as a military contractor with drones..then maybe they can be GLUED to the rest of Eastern Europe and strengthen the rest of the EU... and here you LIBRULLS thought our brave President Trump had BLUNDERED into Iran! Guess you're glad he got elected for a reason besides cheap eggs & gas!!!"

Make a “Deal,” get delivery of his part, and then refuse to deliver his partner their part. Someone please tell me Zelenskyy knows this by now. Even the Xhosa speakers of Southern Africa know this by now.

to my vocabulary!

The negotiations will mostly be in the form of threats, or that "they owe us" for past assistance.