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gab13by13

(32,039 posts) Thu Mar 12, 2026, 09:32 AM Thursday

Is Krasnov Getting Ready To Surrender

Oh sure he will declare victory while he is surrendering.

Going to be hard to declare victory when:

Krasnov said he must approve the new leader of Iran - the son of the Supreme leader took over and he is worse than dad.

Krasnov said Iran better not stop the flow of oil through Hormuz or he will hit them 20 times harder - Iran has stopped the flow of oil except for Iranian oil that is being shipped to China. Iran is shipping more oil to China today than it did before the war, oh and Iran is mining Hormuz.

7 Americans killed and 140 wounded, 8 seriously wounded.

He goes on TV and lies about bombing an Iranian school for girls, when he claimed he was backing the people.

Stock market is tanking.

Price of crude is rising with gasoline and diesel prices also rising.

The economy is showing signs of a recession with the war increasing inflation and jobs at recession-like lows.

Krasnov has lost the right wing media - Joe Rogan and Tucker Carlson have attacked Krasnov for the war.

Congressional Magats are calling for Krasnov to declare victory and surrender, well, Lyndsey Graham wants Krasnov to move on to Cuba.

I suggest that Krasnov better keep doing rallies in deep red America and screen the few people who attend. His ego is in dire need of stoking.

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Is Krasnov Getting Ready To Surrender (Original Post) gab13by13 Thursday OP

OR............................................ Lovie777 Thursday #1

Yeah, I didn't want to go there, gab13by13 Thursday #5

Stock Market says he's about to cave Johnny2X2X Thursday #2

It's going to get a hell of a lot worse on Dec. 1st gab13by13 Thursday #6

No doubt Johnny2X2X Thursday #7

the sick fuck bit off more than he can chew this time - Iran is no Venezuela. Blues Heron Thursday #3

He also did not attempt regime change in Venezuela WSHazel Thursday #8

With Iranian sleeper cells everywhere, lees1975 Thursday #4

I got the idea for this thread from what Krasnov said at his recent rally gab13by13 Thursday #9

MaddowBlog-Trump and his allies pitch a new idea: Maybe higher gas prices aren't 'bad news' LetMyPeopleVote Thursday #10

I demand unconditionally. Kid Berwyn Thursday #11

Could you imagine what MAGA or Fox News would say if Biden said this? LetMyPeopleVote Thursday #12

Trump's oil boast has cringing industry execs running for cover: report LetMyPeopleVote 8 hrs ago #13

Lovie777

(22,792 posts)

1. OR............................................

Reply to gab13by13 (Original post)

Thu Mar 12, 2026, 09:38 AM

Thursday

double down.

gab13by13

(32,039 posts)

5. Yeah, I didn't want to go there,

Reply to Lovie777 (Reply #1)

Thu Mar 12, 2026, 10:03 AM

Thursday

I believe only one country ever surrendered because they were bombed - Japan.

Johnny2X2X

(24,107 posts)

2. Stock Market says he's about to cave

Reply to gab13by13 (Original post)

Thu Mar 12, 2026, 09:51 AM

Thursday

Although maybe he thinks he can use the war as an excuse for the collapsing American economy.

gab13by13

(32,039 posts)

6. It's going to get a hell of a lot worse on Dec. 1st

Reply to Johnny2X2X (Reply #2)

Thu Mar 12, 2026, 10:04 AM

Thursday

when the big cuts to our social safety net kick in from his Big Ugly Death Bill.

Johnny2X2X

(24,107 posts)

7. No doubt

Reply to gab13by13 (Reply #6)

Thu Mar 12, 2026, 10:11 AM

Thursday

Joe Biden built the best economy for working people in generations, the bottom 50% were seeing unprecedented gains, even as Inflation was a concern. The corporate media convinced people that everything was falling apart. And then taking advantage of the good economy, the GOP slashed the social safety net, which you can't do in a bad economy.

America and Americans are going through very hard times and it's going to get much much much worse for the bottom 90%.

And as I type this, I am reading a biased as hell article about inflation on Yahoo, as if inflation is even a key economic indicator.

Blues Heron

(8,725 posts)

3. the sick fuck bit off more than he can chew this time - Iran is no Venezuela.

Reply to gab13by13 (Original post)

Thu Mar 12, 2026, 09:55 AM

Thursday

WSHazel

(741 posts)

8. He also did not attempt regime change in Venezuela

Reply to Blues Heron (Reply #3)

Thu Mar 12, 2026, 10:22 AM

Thursday

He removed an unpopular ruler and left the regime in charge. An externally led regime change is hard, because the population will generally rally around the regime against a foreign attack, even if they hate the regime.

lees1975

(6,989 posts)

4. With Iranian sleeper cells everywhere,

Reply to gab13by13 (Original post)

Thu Mar 12, 2026, 09:58 AM

Thursday

rallies might not be a good idea.

gab13by13

(32,039 posts)

9. I got the idea for this thread from what Krasnov said at his recent rally

Reply to lees1975 (Reply #4)

Thu Mar 12, 2026, 12:16 PM

Thursday

He told his unwashed Magats that we won the war.

LetMyPeopleVote

(178,838 posts)

10. MaddowBlog-Trump and his allies pitch a new idea: Maybe higher gas prices aren't 'bad news'

Reply to gab13by13 (Original post)

Thu Mar 12, 2026, 04:28 PM

Thursday

We’ve reached the point at which the president wants consumers to be glad they’re paying more at the pump.

Trump, in late October: â€œWith the Democrats, youâ€™ll be paying , , and a Gallon.â€

Trump, today, as gas prices approach the levels he warned about five months ago: â€œWhen oil prices go up, we make a lot of money.â€

If Dems are lucky, the White House will keep pushing this line.
— Steve Benen (@stevebenen.com) 2026-03-12T16:48:06.117Z

https://www.ms.now/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/trump-and-his-allies-pitch-a-new-idea-maybe-higher-gas-prices-arent-bad-news

It was against this backdrop that the Republican president rolled out a very different kind of message on Thursday morning. Just 17 weeks after he wrote, “Under President Trump, ME, Gasoline will come down to approximately $2 a Gallon,” Trump tried selling Americans on the opposite message.

“The United States is the largest Oil Producer in the World, by far, so when oil prices go up, we make a lot of money,” Trump wrote.

Yes, we’ve reached the point at which the president wants consumers to be glad they’re paying more at the pump.

As a substantive matter, the problem with Trump’s claim is that the word “we” was doing a lot of work in his sentence. It’s true that the United States is producing a lot of oil, and it’s also true that higher prices help generate oil industry profits. But since the number of Americans who benefit from oil industry profits is very small, few will likely celebrate the hit to their wallets.

Complicating matters, Trump isn’t alone on this. Kelly Loeffler, head of the Small Business Administration, downplayed the importance of rising gas prices in a podcast interview this week. And on Thursday morning, Energy Secretary Chris Wright appeared on Fox News and pushed a line that was eerily similar to the president’s: “Fortunately, the United States, we produce more oil than we can consume; we’re a net oil exporter. So overall for the U.S. economy, this isn’t bad news.”

This is a message that Republicans will continue to embrace in the coming weeks and months if Democrats are extremely lucky.

Kid Berwyn

(24,144 posts)

11. I demand unconditionally.

Reply to gab13by13 (Original post)

Thu Mar 12, 2026, 04:30 PM

Thursday

Traitor should be in Supermax solitary, "RFN."

LetMyPeopleVote

(178,838 posts)

12. Could you imagine what MAGA or Fox News would say if Biden said this?

Reply to gab13by13 (Original post)

Thu Mar 12, 2026, 08:19 PM

Thursday

LetMyPeopleVote

(178,838 posts)

13. Trump's oil boast has cringing industry execs running for cover: report

Reply to gab13by13 (Original post)

Fri Mar 13, 2026, 07:19 PM

8 hrs ago

The only entities making money due to higher oil and gas prices are the US oil companies. Regular people are NOT benefiting from higher oil and gas prices. trump's attempt to spin the benefits of higher gas and oil prices are pissing off the oil companies who really do NOT want US consumers to focus on the fact that they are paying for these oil companies' excess profits and earnings.

Trump's boastful Truth Social post about oil industry profits has created an embarrassing moment for energy executives who desperately want those windfall gains to remain out of public view.
— Raw Story (@rawstory.com) 2026-03-13T20:36:06Z

https://www.rawstory.com/trump-oil-2676098825/

Trump's boastful Truth Social post about oil industry profits has created an embarrassing moment for energy executives who desperately want those windfall gains to remain out of public view.

As crude oil prices settled around $95 per barrel—far above the industry's preferred $60 threshold—Trump declared on Truth Social: "The United States is the largest Oil Producer in the World, by far, so when oil prices go up, we make a lot of money."

The post crystallizes an uncomfortable reality for oil companies: they are profiting handsomely from war-driven price spikes while consumers face soaring gas prices at the pump. Since the Iran war began, crude prices have surged nearly $30 per barrel or more. Oil executives now face a public relations nightmare.

"The idea that the industry profits from war and death is not one a VP of public relations wants to promote," said Mark Jones, political science fellow at Rice University's Baker Institute.

Industry sources reacted with dismay. "Oh, boy...." one oil executive responded when shown Trump's post.

Trump's statement feeds directly into public perception that oil companies are deliberately gouging consumers. Another industry official, speaking anonymously, acknowledged the damage: "This highlights the complicated relationship the oil industry has with the president. There is also some notion that the oil and gas industry secretly works to raise prices, which is a fundamental misunderstanding of how the industry works."

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