I am open to good evidence of the rigging. So far we have not seen enough to support that.

Nailed it !!!

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The absurdity of taking anything like that as meaningful ...

Just like Europe is taking his threats about invading Greenland seriously.

Would be solid corroboration by a vetted and credible source.
Trump doesn't have the foggiest notion of what a 'tabulator' is ... (which serves to illustrate above point rather succinctly!) Gibberish - out of the mouth of a man knows - almost nothing ...

One would think, after lo these many years - we would have twigged to the fact ....
Again - the man lies as often as he takes breath. Full stop.

Or do you think he was lying about that too?

unless corroborated and verified elsewhere. Full stop.
And - at this point I believe I have answered your question - at least several different times.

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He won the 2020 election.
He won the popular vote in 2016.
He would end the war in Ukraine on day 1.
That immigrants are eating pets.
Obama wasn't a natural born citizen.

He's not a man who tells the truth.

Biggest economy ever.
How many wars has he claimed to have ended?
His inauguration crowd size.
His weight and health.

He’s a slippery rat which means everything he claims should be checked out. Giving him a pass on this doesn’t make a lot of sense.

And plenty of evidence that there wasn't it does.

There's plenty of Democrats on election boards and election observers, and the Harris campaign as well as the standard election audits that all point to there's no reason to think the Trump administration changed votes. There's also that we won a lot of down ticket races, Republicans only eeked out a tiny majority in an election where we had to switch candidates and had the low approval of the Biden administration working against us, and we keep winning elections in 2025 and 2026. Did they forget to push the magic cheat button?

Or as the other war criminal said, Fool me once, wont get fooled again.

The above helped get us to where we are at.
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Ohio 2004 is very suspicious. I agree.

The company went into Highland county's EVMs and changed the votes. It went to trial and Bush jr. put a gag order on the case.

Agree, there’s no actual evidence of the 2024 Election being rigged. With Biden appointees being in charge of all the intelligence, cyber security and federal law-enforcement agencies prior, during and after the Election, it’s impossible for Musk to have pulled it off without someone detecting something.

hundreds of millions of dollars in support of the Trump campaign, unchecked money used for what, I don't think we know.

it was to rig voting machines.

to rig polls, flood markets with attack ads, pay for dirty email campaigns, etc. I never thought he was rigging voting machines, frankly. But there are many ways to cheat, to buy candidates, and generally pollute the election atmosphere.

I was specifically talki9ng about the allegations of fixing the ballots and machines.

insufficient evidence, not no evidence.

but still not evidence that they did.

He told the man over India's voting that any device can be hacked. Trump thanked him for his help with the counting computers, tabulators. Jim Baker warned about insider threats to EVMs. He gave example of money laundering a casino used slot machines pay Russians. It was the largest fine the United States ever imposed. The EVMs and slot machines use the same platform. The casino was Trump's Taq Mahal.

There is a difference between illegal money or biased promotion and tampering with voting machines.

Musk is never around to answer for anything.

had surges in votes for Trump for in person voting. Only the swing states followed that pattern, no other state showed that trend.

Kamala Harris won the last election and every time I saw a post about what Democrats did wrong it made me sick to my stomach.

So what if Democrats get control of Congress, what are they going to do, hold hearings? Everyone knew that Krasnov was guilty but we didn't have time to indict and convict him thanks to Garland. Krasnov will have veto power even if anything makes it through Congress.

but my question still stands, and we need better evidence than what I have seen.

"every time I saw a post about what Democrats did wrong it made me sick to my stomach."

Ditto

How did all of that happen under their noses and they somehow missed it?

If Musk rigged the 2024 election for Trump, then why didn’t he also rig the 2025 Wisconsin Supreme Court race he invest millions in, as well as his own ego?

There is as much evidence for 2024 election Denialism as there is for 2020 election denialism:

ZERO

9 million fewer people showed up to vote in 2024 compared to 2020 - that says all you need to know about how Trump won,

Election Denialism is a faulty coping mechanism used to avoid the painful emotions of accepting an election loss, and does nothing to prepare us for the challenges that lie ahead.

9 million votes weren't counted.
Not serious, but it's how CTs work.
I do think there was some shady shit going on, but haven't seen enough to show they tampered with voting machines.

There were reports of near record turnout in many places. That doesn't square with 9 million fewer people showing up.

It's fairly easy to target voters for elimination from the rolls, as groups like TrueTheVote did nationwide. That's one way to get higher turnout in lines but fewer counted votes. No kooky theory needed.

the vote tallies reflected that. Heavy voting in certain areas, lighter in others. Also 'record turnout' - is often either a 'loose description' (generalized, non-numbers based) terminology ("long lines, people waiting&quot , or a description rendered for early voting (and incomplete) numbers. So, no - those two things are not the contradiction that you think they are.

And, no - you also did not see large numbers 'turned away' at the polls ... Show me an actual election official / poll worker that supports this version of events.

2024 was never gonna match it in turnout.

He sows doubt...and jumps up and down in advance. And he is doing some of the rigging out in the open this time.

It is more difficult to mess with data of smaller elections - obvious.

But they will do whatever it takes. They have even more to lose than before.

Dems and Independents need to have their eyes on everything, and not get complacent...and not make assumptions.

Their turn in the barrel is coming.

and Pres. Putin couldn't be happier... with the media, the elections, the courts, and law enforcement all now bones of civil contention looked at with contempt and mistrust, the foundational cornerstones of American life are getting gut-punched over and over again. But since it's all done With and For Profit, we shrug, we complain and then we move on to new outrages to passively defend our privileged complacency.

Nothing like leading that horse right up to .... The grand SAVE Act - and other do-gooder idiocy to 'safeguard' our elections !

Same day voting! Hand counting! Voter ID! Smash the machines!
Yep! That'll right the ship !

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In red states, all they need is disruption in key blue leaning districts.

Broken machines, not enough machines, ICE lurking around, voting rolls purged , etc.

County offices run elections and selectively editing the vote counts (electronically ) is likely to be happening.

There will also be challenges to the vote , recounts, and who knows if the House under Moses Mike Johnson will certify the vote ???