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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsBullet used to kill Charlie Kirk did NOT match rifle allegedly used by suspect Tyler Robinson, new court filing claims
Last edited Mon Mar 30, 2026, 11:26 PM - Edit history (1)
From The Daily Mail but likely to be true.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15692625/Tyler-Robinson-bullet-rifle-match-Charlie-Kirk.html
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... His defense attorneys now argue that the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives 'was unable to identify the bullet recovered at autopsy to the rifle allegedly tied to Mr Robinson.'
The defense team may now offer the ATF firearm analyst's testimony as exculpatory evidence, they said in a motion filed on Friday to push the preliminary hearing back at least six months, Fox News reports.
It also notes that DNA reports filed by the Federal Bureau of Investigation and ATF will take time for the defense team to analyze because reports indicated that several different DNA were found on some items of evidence.
Checking satellites for evidence of a grassy knoll.
No link at the Daily Mail to more, but others may. MSN syndicated the story.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/bullet-used-to-kill-charlie-kirk-did-not-match-rifle-allegedly-used-by-suspect-tyler-robinson/ar-AA1ZLsle
Edit to add. I did not intend to promote conspiracy theories, only to say REPUBLICANS IN DISARRAY.
Let them tear each other apart (verbally, of course.)
I looked for independent sources. So far, everyone is just copying the DailyMail, so Caveat Reader.
A search for corroboration!! Unfortunately, it has only been found so far at.
Hindustan Times
EndTimeHeadlines
https://the.democraticunderground.org/100221135837 (so DU has another name? )
FreeRepubic FREEPERS (this is interesting) Little did I know, they are HQ in Fresno. Yuck.,
I put the discussion so far up on pastebin, so you don't have to go there.
https://pastebin.com/raw/ZUKWyWmc
FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT! EACH OTHER!
rzemanfl
(31,372 posts)EdmondDantes_
(1,793 posts)I'll wait for independent evidence or for the trial before assuming that this is 100% true.
Ocelot II
(130,510 posts)dweller
(28,401 posts)shocked shocked she said
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Lovie777
(22,955 posts)will we ever learn the truth.
blue-wave
(5,097 posts)No doubt about it. Who is really behind it?
BootinUp
(51,311 posts)stopdiggin
(15,461 posts)Lord love a duck !
Are our brains really that far up our butts .. ?
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BootinUp
(51,311 posts)recreations and computer simulations and all the other evidence against Oswald (and lack of any evidence to the contrary). But I have no patience to argue with "believers" anymore, bring the facts or leave me be.
stopdiggin
(15,461 posts)blue-wave
(5,097 posts)you are saying the bullet that was shot from this gun really did kill Charlie Kirk? And you are calling others conspiracy theorists? The science of ballistics don't match in this case. You don't believe in Ballistics testing?
SergeStorms
(20,581 posts)of this from a much more reliable source than The Daily Mail, then I might become a believer.
everyonematters
(4,156 posts)That means he was shot from the front.
Trueblue Texan
(4,458 posts)He had to have been shot from the front.
blue-wave
(5,097 posts)the bullet that hit Kennedy traveled sideways, went upside down, turned around and hit Connally then did another u-turn and then hit Kennedy?
That's not really the path the bullet traveled but I think you get the point. One bullet traveled a very convoluted path and struck two men? Really. And you think those who don't believe the "official" story are the conspiracy theorists?
We will never know the truth.
underpants
(196,484 posts)He took the shot. He had a good rifle to do it and he had a lot of experience with guns.
The angle does seem odd to me.
The DNA thing could mean that anyone from him to his grandfather to his roommate touched then. There was open discussion in card games about killing somebody?
He was definitely a Groyper - devotee of Nick Fuentes - and those were warring factions.
Jack Valentino
(4,999 posts)Elmer Fudd! I hate Bugs Bunny!
(ok, I'm lying about the part about hating Bugs Bunny)
yaesu
(9,325 posts)stopdiggin
(15,461 posts)with his own family turning him in for the deed.
Blue_Roses
(13,879 posts)on this suspect? Did someone see him do it? Did he confess?
stopdiggin
(15,461 posts)while fleeing the building used - c) was turned in by his own family members (after confessing to them ?)
Shall we go on .. ?
Blue_Roses
(13,879 posts)nt
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RockRaven
(19,358 posts)All of a sudden these prosecutors will be a lot less interested in or respectful of the scientism offered by forensic experts' testimony than they were a few months ago.
Funny how that works.
Prairie Gates
(8,147 posts)The defense will always say that that means it wasn't a bullet from the gun, while the prosecution will say that the bullet was simply too damaged.
Not being able to match a bullet to a gun is not the same as ruling out the gun as the source of the bullet.
Straw Man
(6,945 posts)That's it in a nutshell.
dgauss
(1,528 posts)"ruled out" the possibility that the bullet came from that gun. That would be a little more convincing.
rpannier
(24,922 posts)My understanding is the round may have struck something Kirk was wearing and it ricocchet up. If that was true, whatever it hit would have been powerful enough to absorb the impact and force the round up. So whatever it struck would have damaged the round.
For me, Charlie Kirk is gone. That's where the story begins and ends
Aussie105
(7,913 posts)Facts and logic have no defense against those who thrive on conspiracy theories.
OAITW r.2.0
(32,133 posts)WhiskeyGrinder
(26,952 posts)more courts are recognizing, which is that firearms forensics is increasingly seen as inaccurate and unreliable.
Prairie Gates
(8,147 posts)We got sold a bill of goods on this stuff from the 1960s to the 2000s.
WhiskeyGrinder
(26,952 posts)RockRaven
(19,358 posts)There is so, so much bunk which has been used to wrongfully convict people.
Johnny2X2X
(24,201 posts)Notoriously bad evidence.
Prairie Gates
(8,147 posts)Truly, we've created a whole industry of Kid Detective forensics that sends people to prison. It's incredible.
Renew Deal
(85,141 posts)But it would be notable if it was impossible for the bullet to work with the gun.
Multiple DNA is probably law enforcement contamination.
The conspiracy people including Candace Owens will go wild with this info
PeaceWave
(3,380 posts)and that the entire FBI evidence locker is fucked up from Kash Patel using it as a bachelor pad.
NickB79
(20,353 posts)A concrete wall, for example.
And then the bullet mushroomed and/or fragmented, making positive ID impossible.
IronLionZion
(51,262 posts)33taw
(3,336 posts)Joinfortmill
(21,153 posts)Aussie105
(7,913 posts)Someone fired a gun.
A bullet hit its intended target.
Target died.
Simple!
Joinfortmill
(21,153 posts)sarisataka
(22,688 posts)It could have been done with a squib, the gun loaded with blanks and they planted a bullet to make it look like he was shot
The shooter was paid to confess and promised the case would get tossed.
Kirk is in hiding somewhere
If we are going with crazy theories, let's go all-in
Danascot
(5,232 posts)It was Erika Kirk.
If you were married to Charlie Kirk what would you do?
MrChuck
(316 posts)This entire fiasco from Butler PA to Charlie Kirk's murder has been completely fabricated.
Initech
(108,763 posts)I mean no one has profited more handsomely from his death than she has with all the TV appearances, speaking gigs, book deals, and Fox News interviews.
Kaleva
(40,363 posts)Unable to match the bullet to the gun does not mean recovered bullet was not fired from the rifle in question.
Ilikepurple
(670 posts)Im glad someone responded to this seemingly non-exculpatory evidence without the need to browbeat OP for considering possibilities. I like most others have no firsthand knowledge of this case and am not exactly trusting of either our FBI or DOJ, but still think its unlikely hes the shooter. Im not fond of conspiracy theories but without them conspiracies would never be discovered. Im surprised at the number of people who think everyone should share the same epistemic standards, especially when they dont fully understand their own.
Unrepentant Fenian
(1,134 posts)C Moon
(13,639 posts)onenote
(46,139 posts)usonian
(25,272 posts)But I am no good at searching court filings unless they show up in general search.
I put a caveat into the OP.
It looks like a lot of outlets, not just the usual right wing sites, have picked it up.
That doesn't instill much trust. Who is checking?
Quiet Em
(2,936 posts)Johnny2X2X
(24,201 posts)He's just bringing into question ballistics evidence. Bullet too damaged to say what gun it came from. Mostly meaningless when you have a shooter who confessed. Now if the caliber was different, we'd have a big story.
I still think that's a really hard shot for anyone to make. Not hitting a target at 200 yards, but hitting a person at 200 yards, two totally different things.
Historic NY
(40,036 posts)I don't know if they recovered more unspent rounds with the weapon. Further analysis can id the metallic composition characteristics.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/mar/31/charlie-kirk-bullet-rifle]
BaronChocula
(4,549 posts)Thank you.
Not being able to match a bullet to a weapon doesn't mean the bullet is excluded. their findings can just be inconclusive. Full disclosure, I didn't read any follow up beyond "unable to identify the bullet recovered at autopsy to the rifle allegedly tied to Mr Robinson..." I'm just not that concerned.
allegorical oracle
(6,478 posts)his father. Seems like lawyers creating doubt to a) stall for time and b) potentially taint a jury pool.
Initech
(108,763 posts)idahoblue
(453 posts)There has never been a merrier widow than Erika, the merriest widow ever.
Iggo
(49,927 posts)Other than KIRKs kids, I dont give a fuck about any of these people.
Cant wait for Hair-On-Fire-Palooza.