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Miles Archer

(23,587 posts) Mon Apr 13, 2026, 07:56 PM Yesterday

Vance: Vatican "should stick to the church and let the president stick to DICTATING AMERICAN PUBLIC POLICY."

Aaron Rupar

‪@atrupar.com‬
JD Vance advises the Vatican to stay out of US politics

JD Vance advises the Vatican to stay out of US politics
— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar.com) 2026-04-13T22:30:15.397Z

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Vance: Vatican "should stick to the church and let the president stick to DICTATING AMERICAN PUBLIC POLICY." (Original Post) Miles Archer Yesterday OP

Hey JD moonscape Yesterday #1

People breaking all of the commandments every day is the Pope's business. Irish_Dem Yesterday #2

HA! Vance is forced to admit there's a valid and abiding no_hypocrisy Yesterday #3

Not only that he admitted trump was a dictator Lifeafter70 Yesterday #28

Just as soon as the Trump Administration stops trying to dictate Christianity. tanyev Yesterday #4

He's killed before. Iggo Yesterday #5

Good, keep your religion out of public JBTaurus83 Yesterday #6

Yes; Trump is a DICK TATER! Chasstev365 Yesterday #7

A Tater Tot, according to Stormy Daniels. 3catwoman3 Yesterday #29

Traitor Tot. ColoringFool 23 hrs ago #36

🤣 Chasstev365 14 hrs ago #38

Vance converts to Protestantism live on televsion Prairie Gates Yesterday #8

I actually expect him to JBTaurus83 Yesterday #12

"Caring about people is not political" Deuxcents Yesterday #9

Hey, JD, go read the Constitution again. Did you sleep through Con Law at Yale? Ocelot II Yesterday #10

Right, so whenever abortion rights come up for discussion DFW Yesterday #11

+1 dalton99a Yesterday #21

Gee, look at who now believes in the separation of church and state... regnaD kciN Yesterday #13

Peace is the church's business. BlueNProud Yesterday #14

They are ruining the world and the world isnt Johonny Yesterday #15

VD Jance is such a CINO. ananda Yesterday #16

I thought it meant Christian in name only. efhmc Yesterday #19

Same thing. ananda Yesterday #20

He isn't even a holiday catholic Lifeafter70 Yesterday #30

"Dictating?" efhmc Yesterday #17

We do not want him dictating or playing the role of dictator. waterwatcher123 Yesterday #18

Then get that fucking Christian Nationalism out too Blue Owl Yesterday #22

And he says nothing when hick preachers talk about policy. Kingofalldems Yesterday #23

So no religious freedom for the Pope? Raven123 Yesterday #24

HEY Vance.. Fuck the DICTATOR & Cha Yesterday #25

J.D. FUCK OFF. spanone Yesterday #26

I'm not a religious person but.... Skittles Yesterday #27

He is Renew Deal Yesterday #33

"Dictating" is a most interesting choice of vocabulary. 3catwoman3 Yesterday #31

The problem is that the US government decided to cross the religious line Renew Deal Yesterday #32

J D "Maybe it's Maybelline" Vance MW67 Yesterday #34

Vance is more like... purr-rat beauty 23 hrs ago #35

JD "converting" to Catholicism. sop 23 hrs ago #37

He thought it would benefit him politically. Sequoia 10 hrs ago #41

Dictating malaise 14 hrs ago #39

Coming from a regime that intervenes in everybody else's politics... Eugene 10 hrs ago #40

moonscape

(5,772 posts)

1. Hey JD

Reply to Miles Archer (Original post)

Mon Apr 13, 2026, 07:58 PM

Yesterday

Follow your own advice!

Irish_Dem

(81,688 posts)

2. People breaking all of the commandments every day is the Pope's business.

Reply to Miles Archer (Original post)

Mon Apr 13, 2026, 07:59 PM

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no_hypocrisy

(55,038 posts)

3. HA! Vance is forced to admit there's a valid and abiding

Reply to Miles Archer (Original post)

Mon Apr 13, 2026, 07:59 PM

Yesterday

SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE

Thanks JD! Your hypocrisy is priceless!

Lifeafter70

(1,107 posts)

28. Not only that he admitted trump was a dictator

Reply to no_hypocrisy (Reply #3)

Mon Apr 13, 2026, 09:05 PM

Yesterday

I know I know I took it out of context.
But it works for me.

tanyev

(49,379 posts)

4. Just as soon as the Trump Administration stops trying to dictate Christianity.

Reply to Miles Archer (Original post)

Mon Apr 13, 2026, 08:00 PM

Yesterday

🤨

Iggo

(49,960 posts)

5. He's killed before.

Reply to Miles Archer (Original post)

Mon Apr 13, 2026, 08:01 PM

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JBTaurus83

(1,511 posts)

6. Good, keep your religion out of public

Reply to Miles Archer (Original post)

Mon Apr 13, 2026, 08:01 PM

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Policy, ignorant douche.

Chasstev365

(7,907 posts)

7. Yes; Trump is a DICK TATER!

Reply to Miles Archer (Original post)

Mon Apr 13, 2026, 08:04 PM

Yesterday

3catwoman3

(29,531 posts)

29. A Tater Tot, according to Stormy Daniels.

Reply to Chasstev365 (Reply #7)

Mon Apr 13, 2026, 09:09 PM

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ColoringFool

(790 posts)

36. Traitor Tot.

Reply to 3catwoman3 (Reply #29)

Mon Apr 13, 2026, 09:31 PM

23 hrs ago

Chasstev365

(7,907 posts)

38. 🤣

Reply to 3catwoman3 (Reply #29)

Tue Apr 14, 2026, 06:37 AM

14 hrs ago

Prairie Gates

(8,286 posts)

8. Vance converts to Protestantism live on televsion

Reply to Miles Archer (Original post)

Mon Apr 13, 2026, 08:07 PM

Yesterday

JBTaurus83

(1,511 posts)

12. I actually expect him to

Reply to Prairie Gates (Reply #8)

Mon Apr 13, 2026, 08:13 PM

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He will do anything to become the nominee, and I can’t see how remaining a Catholic is going to be feasible for him.

Deuxcents

(27,170 posts)

9. "Caring about people is not political"

Reply to Miles Archer (Original post)

Mon Apr 13, 2026, 08:09 PM

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Ocelot II

(130,768 posts)

10. Hey, JD, go read the Constitution again. Did you sleep through Con Law at Yale?

Reply to Miles Archer (Original post)

Mon Apr 13, 2026, 08:09 PM

Yesterday

The president's job is not to dictate policy. The president's job, per the Constitution, is to "take care that the laws be faithfully executed" (Article II, Section 3). Those laws arise from the people via their Article I representatives. And if the president has started a war because he felt like it and innocent people are getting killed, the Pope certainly can, and should, use his voice as (supposedly) God's messenger to speak out against the violence and the killing. God isn't cool with war in general, never mind what Pete Kegbreath says.

DFW

(60,309 posts)

11. Right, so whenever abortion rights come up for discussion

Reply to Miles Archer (Original post)

Mon Apr 13, 2026, 08:11 PM

Yesterday

The clergy in general, and Catholics in particular, should keep their mouths shut, right?

“Except when…..” coming in 5…..4….3…..2….1…..

dalton99a

(94,554 posts)

21. +1

Reply to DFW (Reply #11)

Mon Apr 13, 2026, 08:38 PM

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regnaD kciN

(27,670 posts)

13. Gee, look at who now believes in the separation of church and state...

Reply to Miles Archer (Original post)

Mon Apr 13, 2026, 08:15 PM

Yesterday

BlueNProud

(1,108 posts)

14. Peace is the church's business.

Reply to Miles Archer (Original post)

Mon Apr 13, 2026, 08:22 PM

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Johonny

(26,306 posts)

15. They are ruining the world and the world isnt

Reply to Miles Archer (Original post)

Mon Apr 13, 2026, 08:23 PM

Yesterday

Happy about it, so Vance is going to have to eat the shit he crapped.

ananda

(35,272 posts)

16. VD Jance is such a CINO.

Reply to Miles Archer (Original post)

Mon Apr 13, 2026, 08:25 PM

Yesterday

Cathoic in name only.

efhmc

(16,780 posts)

19. I thought it meant Christian in name only.

Reply to ananda (Reply #16)

Mon Apr 13, 2026, 08:32 PM

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ananda

(35,272 posts)

20. Same thing.

Reply to efhmc (Reply #19)

Mon Apr 13, 2026, 08:33 PM

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But Vance really is a so-called Catholic.

Lifeafter70

(1,107 posts)

30. He isn't even a holiday catholic

Reply to efhmc (Reply #19)

Mon Apr 13, 2026, 09:09 PM

Yesterday

Don't remember seeing him at Mass on Easter Sunday.

efhmc

(16,780 posts)

17. "Dictating?"

Reply to Miles Archer (Original post)

Mon Apr 13, 2026, 08:30 PM

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waterwatcher123

(517 posts)

18. We do not want him dictating or playing the role of dictator.

Reply to Miles Archer (Original post)

Mon Apr 13, 2026, 08:31 PM

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Blue Owl

(59,262 posts)

22. Then get that fucking Christian Nationalism out too

Reply to Miles Archer (Original post)

Mon Apr 13, 2026, 08:38 PM

Yesterday

Kingofalldems

(40,322 posts)

23. And he says nothing when hick preachers talk about policy.

Reply to Miles Archer (Original post)

Mon Apr 13, 2026, 08:40 PM

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Raven123

(7,853 posts)

24. So no religious freedom for the Pope?

Reply to Miles Archer (Original post)

Mon Apr 13, 2026, 08:46 PM

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Funny, JD thought it was ok for him (JD) to explain St Augustine

https://www.americamagazine.org/faith/2025/02/05/jd-vance-ordo-amoris-augustine-249848/

Cha

(319,430 posts)

25. HEY Vance.. Fuck the DICTATOR &

Reply to Miles Archer (Original post)

Mon Apr 13, 2026, 09:00 PM

Yesterday

the little mouthpiece Cockroach telling Pope Leo the XIV what to do.

spanone

(141,772 posts)

26. J.D. FUCK OFF.

Reply to Miles Archer (Original post)

Mon Apr 13, 2026, 09:01 PM

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Skittles

(172,051 posts)

27. I'm not a religious person but....

Reply to Miles Archer (Original post)

Mon Apr 13, 2026, 09:05 PM

Yesterday

when the Pope comments on WAR I think he IS commenting on MORALITY

Renew Deal

(85,251 posts)

33. He is

Reply to Skittles (Reply #27)

Mon Apr 13, 2026, 09:13 PM

Yesterday

Vance knew he screwed that one up. Also, threatening to destroy a civilization is well within the Pope’s scope.

3catwoman3

(29,531 posts)

31. "Dictating" is a most interesting choice of vocabulary.

Reply to Miles Archer (Original post)

Mon Apr 13, 2026, 09:11 PM

Yesterday

Renew Deal

(85,251 posts)

32. The problem is that the US government decided to cross the religious line

Reply to Miles Archer (Original post)

Mon Apr 13, 2026, 09:12 PM

Yesterday

With all of the religious justifications for the war and Old Testament quotes to support “lethality.”

Keep religion out of foreign policy and maybe religion will have a smaller role.

That said, the ending civilization comments are a war crime and my understanding is that they may also be a sin.