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bluestarone

(22,371 posts)
Thu Apr 16, 2026, 05:55 PM Apr 16

Just want to say, i never dreamed how bad our country could become. I've NEVER thought

Our democracy could be swallowed by our so called defenders like it has. Pretty fucking scary when ONE person is protected by our COMPLETE judicial system, military system, congressional system. I never ever thought our DOJ had power like completely undoing all charges against the Jan 6 MONSTERS. This fucker had judges perfectly in the right places to do what they are doing. I now see how dangerous a beautiful country can be with the ungodly type fuckers running it.

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Just want to say, i never dreamed how bad our country could become. I've NEVER thought (Original Post) bluestarone Apr 16 OP
welcome to rupertstan. pansypoo53219 Apr 16 #1
Having grown up in Mi'ssippi, there isn't much in any of this that surprises me peppertree Apr 17 #41
This message was self-deleted by its author raging moderate Apr 17 #42
It's not only Mississippi. My husband and I met many bad racists in small Illinois towns. raging moderate Apr 17 #43
Absolutely. peppertree Apr 17 #44
Yes, it's really unbelievable that we still have Americans bluestarone Apr 17 #45
Reminds me of this TV movie from 1981 BaronChocula Apr 17 #50
Same here PatSeg Apr 16 #2
I hear ya but I am expecting it to get worse. Eko Apr 16 #3
100% agree. From what i've witnessed so far. My thinking? bluestarone Apr 16 #7
Cant argue with any of that. Eko Apr 16 #12
I wish i can believe that. They have gone way past anything i thought they would do. My thoughts are bluestarone Apr 16 #15
If impeachment really looms, he will resign, then Captain Zero Apr 16 #30
Then off to NY State prison. POTUS cannot pardon state crimes, including those for which he has already been convicted. eppur_se_muova Apr 17 #35
I knew how bad they'd TRY to make it, and B.See Apr 16 #4
The money men malaise Apr 16 #5
Would it make a difference Hope I am clear here Apr 16 #33
Nice dreams malaise Apr 16 #34
Welcome to DU LetMyPeopleVote Apr 17 #47
We already have term limits: vote them out. marble falls Apr 18 #67
We already have a system for term limits: VOTE THEM OUT. The founding fathers also died younger than us. marble falls Apr 19 #68
Welcome to DU. NNadir Thursday #69
I knew how bad they would be to women - TBF Apr 16 #6
Agree 100% Want to add here bluestarone Apr 16 #9
I could easily envision a GOP POS going off the rails Skittles Apr 16 #8
Yes they have made their final decision take over our country. They will not stop, i'm afraid. bluestarone Apr 16 #11
How it is blubunyip Apr 16 #10
Well, he's got control of everything. Think about it. For example a millionaire goes to a grocery store or car dealer bluestarone Apr 16 #14
Many of thought we had some checks and balances against this sort of thing. No Kings IronLionZion Apr 16 #13
My maternal grandfather was a immigrant from Germany who came here in 1953 MustLoveBeagles Apr 16 #16
I'm scared. stuntcat Apr 16 #17
This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Apr 16 #18
Trump is just the useful tool, HighFired49 Apr 16 #27
This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Apr 16 #32
America will not be attacked militarily, BidenRocks Apr 16 #19
Well seems like they have always had that 32% in their corner. bluestarone Apr 16 #20
I never believed it would be possible to so completely stack the SCOTUS MLWR Apr 16 #21
That has continued to shock me too. Haggard Celine Apr 16 #23
Never had any of this on my bingo card but I do feel the ousting of Orban is a plus vapor2 Apr 16 #22
I disagree with your last sentence, "ungodly". Frst, of course, is that niyad Apr 16 #24
As bad as things are right now...... OAITW r.2.0 Apr 16 #25
I hope you're right, my friend. calimary Apr 17 #46
I'm bemused that Orban even allowed an election in Hungary MadameButterfly Apr 17 #60
I know. And we can't wake up from the nightmare. It's neverending and it's for real. 50 Shades Of Blue Apr 16 #26
The optimist in me says we'll wake up someday EnergizedLib Apr 16 #28
And when Democrats take back control of Congress, and find themselves unable to reverse all of his destruction, sop Apr 16 #29
I graduated from high school right into the Reagan economy. Arthur_Frain Apr 16 #31
Many think the Supreme Court and the corrupt DOJ completely insulate Trump from accountability. summer_in_TX Apr 17 #36
Not to mention the foreign influence that Isreal and Russia have. Initech Apr 17 #37
Honestly, I have seen this coming since my early adult years in the 90s Cosmocat Apr 17 #38
And, some of us have been expecting it for some time. OldBaldy1701E Apr 17 #39
One more thought here. I'm of the thinking that our great country has ONE more chance to survive. That would be the bluestarone Apr 17 #40
Exactly what I've been feeling. It's a nightmare. It's depressing. But we've got to hold on and help rebuild. Martin68 Apr 17 #48
Benjamin Franklin was well aware of the precariousness of our government. Snackshack Apr 17 #49
It's the billionaire class protecting him dlk Apr 17 #51
Nope, Republicans at every level of government. The crimnal bastids dave99 Apr 17 #63
Republicans being financed by the billionaires... dlk Apr 17 #66
I knbew the moment Trump[ was elected. edhopper Apr 17 #52
By playing the long game. hadEnuf Apr 17 #53
The toxic totalitarian The Wizard Apr 17 #54
This is the culmination of the class war the Robber Barons declared against the New Deal 95 PatrickforB Apr 17 #55
If Merrick Garland wasn't asleep at the wheel The Wizard Apr 17 #56
Me, too, bluestarone. ShazzieB Apr 17 #57
it is a perfect storm of fuckery and (cowardice by the GOP) themaguffin Apr 17 #58
We are a pariah nation now and I AM NOT PROUD TO BE AMERICAN BUT EMBARASSED! kimbutgar Apr 17 #59
100% bluestarone Apr 17 #65
shitstain just proving that Republicans ARE racists, sexist, pedophiles. which is why it got away with all this dave99 Apr 17 #61
Time to get rid of presidential pardon power MadameButterfly Apr 17 #62
My thoughts exactly. BHDem53 Apr 17 #64

peppertree

(23,418 posts)
41. Having grown up in Mi'ssippi, there isn't much in any of this that surprises me
Fri Apr 17, 2026, 10:13 AM
Apr 17

Most of what these pigs from hell are doing now, echoes some conversation or other I had with the right-wing lunatics down there - some 30+ years ago.

(being white and clean-cut, they automatically assume you're on the same page)

The hankering for monstrosities was very much already there; all they needed, was the billionaires to jump on board - and voilà.

Response to peppertree (Reply #41)

raging moderate

(4,632 posts)
43. It's not only Mississippi. My husband and I met many bad racists in small Illinois towns.
Fri Apr 17, 2026, 10:50 AM
Apr 17

About fifty years ago, my husband and I finished studying at Southern Illinois University and found jobs in small towns in Southern Illinois. I remember some of the residents mentioning that there had been some Black residents, but they were gone now; they refused to tell why they were gone. Some teachers praised the head Science Teacher who had just retired; they mentioned that he had taught Creation Science. I volunteered on the local Volunteer Ambulance Squad. These people were better than most residents of that town. After a traffic accident (not during my shift), some of these ambulance volunteers spoke sympathetically about an accident that had left a Black family badly injured. They reported sadly that the Black family was obviously terrified when the ambulance crew first arrived, but gradually relaxed. They said the Black family later mentioned that they had been very scared that an ambulance crew in that area might be very mean to them, and thanked the ambulance crew for being nice to them. Oh, and another man expressed the belief that Adolph Hitler had actually been a very fine man, and the Nazis actually were very fine people who just understood the superiority of "white" people.

peppertree

(23,418 posts)
44. Absolutely.
Fri Apr 17, 2026, 11:01 AM
Apr 17

There's always been a strong fascist vein in this country; people whose first impulse is always "kill'em all!"

And they see Jabba-the-Trump as the machine gun-wielding Rambo willing to do it (so to speak).

bluestarone

(22,371 posts)
45. Yes, it's really unbelievable that we still have Americans
Fri Apr 17, 2026, 11:07 AM
Apr 17

Praising Hitler and all NAZI'S. Just makes me sick!

BaronChocula

(4,670 posts)
50. Reminds me of this TV movie from 1981
Fri Apr 17, 2026, 01:31 PM
Apr 17

I didn't watch it, but I knew what it was about. It put Skokie on the map for me. It always stood as a symbol of all the corners klanish sympathies lie in this country for me.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0083090/

And what an impressive cast. The thing I knew from back then was that it starred Danny Kaye.

PatSeg

(53,301 posts)
2. Same here
Thu Apr 16, 2026, 07:10 PM
Apr 16

I knew things could get worse, but I never thought it could get this bad, this fast.

Eko

(10,037 posts)
3. I hear ya but I am expecting it to get worse.
Thu Apr 16, 2026, 07:14 PM
Apr 16

Sadly.
After he loses the midterms he will get way crazy. If we win the house and senate it will be a non-stop battle between the legislature and dump and unfortunately dump can take immediate action while the house and senate are slower and rely on the courts to enforce them. I think it will take about a year or so to impeach him finally.
Just my 2 cents.

bluestarone

(22,371 posts)
7. 100% agree. From what i've witnessed so far. My thinking?
Thu Apr 16, 2026, 07:24 PM
Apr 16

They will NOT listen to any congressional law passed. everything will go to the courts. they will be unable to keep up and we will have two years of HELL, or maybe even something worse. Look, this Supreme court could rule NOW on that citizenship, but they give TSF a victory for 4 months just STALLING. TSF will push until something breaks and then Martial law and who knows what after that point is reached.

Eko

(10,037 posts)
12. Cant argue with any of that.
Thu Apr 16, 2026, 07:30 PM
Apr 16

I do think enough republicans will come around to impeachment after a year or so but that could just be me being wistful of actual republicans that were patriots in the past. Of course then we will have couch boy but maybe dumps impeachment will keep him in line.

bluestarone

(22,371 posts)
15. I wish i can believe that. They have gone way past anything i thought they would do. My thoughts are
Thu Apr 16, 2026, 07:39 PM
Apr 16

They have made their move and they will push to a civil war! Unless TSF DIES. then ,i'm thinking RETHUGS will change. It's like they will then think, hell he was no GOD, like they thought he was.

Captain Zero

(8,942 posts)
30. If impeachment really looms, he will resign, then
Thu Apr 16, 2026, 09:16 PM
Apr 16

Vance will become President and PARDON HIM OF EVERYTHING.

JUST like Ford did for Nixon.
Hate to break it to you.

Then. He still will not shut up.

eppur_se_muova

(42,248 posts)
35. Then off to NY State prison. POTUS cannot pardon state crimes, including those for which he has already been convicted.
Fri Apr 17, 2026, 01:20 AM
Apr 17

He's still looking at sentencing for thirty-four felony convictions.

He will have visiting hours and a limited amount of phone time every week. I doubt he will be permitted any kind of personal electronic devices, much less telecom devices. Convicts pay for their phone usage at exorbitant rates. How many real reporters will be interested in interviewing him under those conditions ? He'll be old and irrelevant as any has-been can be. I'm looking forward to seeing him without his poofed-up hair and Rustoleum spray coating -- to say nothing of his magic lifts.

B.See

(8,667 posts)
4. I knew how bad they'd TRY to make it, and
Thu Apr 16, 2026, 07:15 PM
Apr 16

planning on making it still.

But like Kamala said, we DIDN'T expect the spineless, gutless, grovelling, weasle-like CAPITULATION.

malaise

(297,317 posts)
5. The money men
Thu Apr 16, 2026, 07:21 PM
Apr 16

bought the system - thank the corrupt Supreme Court, Citizens United and greedy politicians.

33. Would it make a difference
Thu Apr 16, 2026, 09:54 PM
Apr 16

If there were term limits, no posh healthcare (just the same as the American citizens buy), no lobbyists, immediate expulsion for insider trading, no federal government employment after retirement for 5 years, no security detail after retirement, no paycheck during government shutdowns.. the list could go on and on. Our Founding Fathers served in the legislature for a short period and then went home to live with the laws that they passed, same as everyone else!

marble falls

(72,398 posts)
68. We already have a system for term limits: VOTE THEM OUT. The founding fathers also died younger than us.
Sun Apr 19, 2026, 09:54 PM
Apr 19

TBF

(36,982 posts)
6. I knew how bad they would be to women -
Thu Apr 16, 2026, 07:23 PM
Apr 16

and what they really want to do with Christian Nationalism. I read many portions of Project 2025 - they didn't hide it. And I live in Texas, where these folks have taken over local governments and they are snakes. They not only want to live their lives in line with what they think the bible says, but they do want to force it on everyone else as well. They are white supremacists and they are misogynist. That's just the start of it. If they have their way we will be back to white male land-owning people voting ONLY.

What I did not expect is that they would try to foist it on the rest of the world so quickly. That part has surprised me.

bluestarone

(22,371 posts)
9. Agree 100% Want to add here
Thu Apr 16, 2026, 07:26 PM
Apr 16

I really do feel so sorry for all Democrats that have to live in RED districts. Wish i could help you guys.

Skittles

(172,388 posts)
8. I could easily envision a GOP POS going off the rails
Thu Apr 16, 2026, 07:25 PM
Apr 16

I honestly never thought the entire GOP would be backing them, WTF, do they care about America at ALL???

bluestarone

(22,371 posts)
11. Yes they have made their final decision take over our country. They will not stop, i'm afraid.
Thu Apr 16, 2026, 07:29 PM
Apr 16

Not sure where this will end after our November win.

blubunyip

(296 posts)
10. How it is
Thu Apr 16, 2026, 07:28 PM
Apr 16

that this guy (with enablers) can wreak so much havoc in such a short time and walk away unscathed...this is the lesson we who lived under the delusion of American democracy are facing. Will somebody come and liberate us?

bluestarone

(22,371 posts)
14. Well, he's got control of everything. Think about it. For example a millionaire goes to a grocery store or car dealer
Thu Apr 16, 2026, 07:35 PM
Apr 16

There is NOTHING he can't buy. He has full control!! NOBODY can stop him.

MustLoveBeagles

(17,031 posts)
16. My maternal grandfather was a immigrant from Germany who came here in 1953
Thu Apr 16, 2026, 07:40 PM
Apr 16

He told me what hed experienced in Nazi Germany as a boy. He resisted in his own way. He would steal food for the prisoners until he was caught by a neighbor stealing an apple pie cooling on her window rack, and his mother punished him for it. Anyway his experiences frightened me and I asked him if it would happen here. He said he didn't think so because of the lessons learned of Nazi Germany. I don't think he thought that would be used as a template. He'd be brokenhearted I he was alive to see this.

stuntcat

(12,025 posts)
17. I'm scared.
Thu Apr 16, 2026, 07:42 PM
Apr 16

I’ve dreaded what’s coming for a real long time, but it’s going down so fast I’m getting more afraid. Like scared, personally.

Response to bluestarone (Original post)

HighFired49

(507 posts)
27. Trump is just the useful tool,
Thu Apr 16, 2026, 08:54 PM
Apr 16

and too stupid to know it. I think that the whole plan rested on having someone in power who would blindly do anything he was told if he was promised enough money and fame. Took a while to find someone that stupid.

Response to HighFired49 (Reply #27)

BidenRocks

(3,427 posts)
19. America will not be attacked militarily,
Thu Apr 16, 2026, 07:50 PM
Apr 16

but our life will change in ways which will seem like the stone age.
When you lose your partners, you cannot claim to be a leader of anything.

When America falls, I will die.

The worst part is that half the country want this.

The United States of Extortion! We are worse than the Mafia. Worse than any other terrorist group!

The world does not need America to thrive. We aren't even good at winning wars. When's the last one we won without allies and a coalition?

I really hate us!

bluestarone

(22,371 posts)
20. Well seems like they have always had that 32% in their corner.
Thu Apr 16, 2026, 07:58 PM
Apr 16

If, after the midterms and we win, will things change? I'm not sure. IF they push us into a corner, will we REVOLT? Anything can happen, if we win in Nov. and they do not allow us to pass laws.

MLWR

(1,064 posts)
21. I never believed it would be possible to so completely stack the SCOTUS
Thu Apr 16, 2026, 08:05 PM
Apr 16

with such personalities that would stomp on the Constitution, ignore what it clearly states and support a person who not only was contemptuous of the Constitution, but also of the members of the SCOTUS themselves to the point that the country was totally unrecognizable from the land I grew up in.

Haggard Celine

(17,873 posts)
23. That has continued to shock me too.
Thu Apr 16, 2026, 08:28 PM
Apr 16

I grew up with the Buurger Court and then the Rehnquist Court, which was thought to be conservative at the time, but they look like a bunch of liberals compared with the Roberts Court. The corruption is astounding. One thing Trump did was expose a lot of the rot. Except he didn't drain the swamp, he pumped sewage into it.

vapor2

(4,780 posts)
22. Never had any of this on my bingo card but I do feel the ousting of Orban is a plus
Thu Apr 16, 2026, 08:27 PM
Apr 16

for the world.

niyad

(133,513 posts)
24. I disagree with your last sentence, "ungodly". Frst, of course, is that
Thu Apr 16, 2026, 08:34 PM
Apr 16

this was NOT created as a "godly" nation. Second, these scum are doing what they are doing IN THE NAME OF THEIR GOD (sick and twisted as that deity seems to be).

OAITW r.2.0

(32,444 posts)
25. As bad as things are right now......
Thu Apr 16, 2026, 08:43 PM
Apr 16

I think there is a great awakening going on in this Country. After 50 years, a clear majority are going to vote for Democracy in Nov. 2026.

MadameButterfly

(4,124 posts)
60. I'm bemused that Orban even allowed an election in Hungary
Fri Apr 17, 2026, 04:31 PM
Apr 17

Hoping we have one too, but I don't see Trump taking any chances. Do we really have the tools to stop him?

EnergizedLib

(3,097 posts)
28. The optimist in me says we'll wake up someday
Thu Apr 16, 2026, 09:03 PM
Apr 16

The unfortunate reality is that won’t be a moment too soon, yet we still have to wait for that moment.

sop

(19,042 posts)
29. And when Democrats take back control of Congress, and find themselves unable to reverse all of his destruction,
Thu Apr 16, 2026, 09:04 PM
Apr 16

low-information American voters, the dumbest fucking people on earth, will again sweep Republicans back into power.

Arthur_Frain

(2,402 posts)
31. I graduated from high school right into the Reagan economy.
Thu Apr 16, 2026, 09:16 PM
Apr 16

I have been watching this shit show since then.

After Bill Clinton stood up in the debate and said "it's the economy, stupid", I foolishly thought that maybe the pendulum had begun to permanently swing our way. Nope. Even after Clinton provided a surplus in his last couple of years, the "salt of the earth" in my country decided that the shrub was a better choice than Al, because "he seems like the kind of guy I'd like to sit down and have a beer with". Brilliant system for deciding who to run your government, that.

Two lied-into wars and one global near economic meltdown later (hey, took him a whole 8 years to accomplish that feat) I thought once again, "hey, we elected a black guy, how cool is that?" God I was a naive little shit.

8 years later, when despite the party of "NO"'s obstructionism, I thought things were on an upward swing. Wrong again poopsie. tsf I was a disaster, and that I thought, surely was about rock bottom. Once Biden was dealing with the sack of shit he was left to hold, I hoped he'd be the transitional president he alluded to running for 2020. Groom an obvious choice, hand over the reins, preserve what we'd won. Doh!

I hate those "salt of the earth" fucks, did I mention that? They chose to put him in office a second time, and here we are.

Blame McConnell for the judges, that was his doing specifically. tsf isn't smart enough for that, he's just the recipient of the republican parties' manipulations for all of my adult, politically aware, life.

But make no mistake, tsf deserves the lion's share of the blame for what's gone down. He's a despicable, honorless, useful idiot.

Can we still win? I dunno. I'm not giving up yet though. I'll borrow one of their useless aphorisms.

"Might have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong side"

summer_in_TX

(4,226 posts)
36. Many think the Supreme Court and the corrupt DOJ completely insulate Trump from accountability.
Fri Apr 17, 2026, 01:28 AM
Apr 17

But actually we have forgotten a unique factor, the design embedded in our Constitution that gives equal sovereign status to the states.

The Existentialist Republic
CHRISTOPHER ARMITAGE

The Constitutional Architecture of State Opposition to Electoral Autocratic Takeover.
https://cmarmitage.substack.com/p/the-constitutional-architecture-of?utm_source=%2Fsearch%2Farmitage&utm_medium=reader2
and
Anyone Who Tells You That We Can't Put Criminals in Jail Until We Win an Election Is Complicit in the Murder of Our Democracy

States can investigate and hold every single criminal in the Trump administration accountable for state laws they have broken in their state. The indictment of the ICE officer who pointed his weapon at two people in their car is a great beginning.

Initech

(109,031 posts)
37. Not to mention the foreign influence that Isreal and Russia have.
Fri Apr 17, 2026, 01:39 AM
Apr 17

Fuck Netanyahu and Putin to hell!

Cosmocat

(15,456 posts)
38. Honestly, I have seen this coming since my early adult years in the 90s
Fri Apr 17, 2026, 07:33 AM
Apr 17

Not DT specifically, though when he came down the escalator a decade ago I knew and told people he was no joke.

But, the gaslighting we see now was going on then through the "conservative" movement, the thousands of small down Rush Limbaughs and the Hanitty and Becks, along with the politicians like Gingrich and Santorum, and the country already had a pattern of letting up republican fuckwittery, like giving a pass to Reagen about Iran Contra, not to mention buying his bullshit.

I knew we most likely to roll over to their chrisofacist authoritarianism in some form or manner.

Didnt see it being this farcical until the Tea Party - that was the precursor to the meaner and more overt MAGA bullshit.

OldBaldy1701E

(11,372 posts)
39. And, some of us have been expecting it for some time.
Fri Apr 17, 2026, 08:49 AM
Apr 17

But, it seems that we as a society won't address the arrogance and selfish greed that created this mess.

So, we are stuck in it.

bluestarone

(22,371 posts)
40. One more thought here. I'm of the thinking that our great country has ONE more chance to survive. That would be the
Fri Apr 17, 2026, 09:49 AM
Apr 17

Final days of TSF. If and when his body blends into the soil, i'm wondering if at that time we could somehow get our country back? I'm thinking if we have both houses we got a chance!! It's gonna still be a rough road. Maybe when these fools finally see that TSF is NOT GOD they will blend back into the world they were in BEFORE tsf came along (WAITING for their God AGAIN) Time will tell i guess!!

Martin68

(27,968 posts)
48. Exactly what I've been feeling. It's a nightmare. It's depressing. But we've got to hold on and help rebuild.
Fri Apr 17, 2026, 01:02 PM
Apr 17

Snackshack

(2,594 posts)
49. Benjamin Franklin was well aware of the precariousness of our government.
Fri Apr 17, 2026, 01:24 PM
Apr 17

After the constitutional convention in 1778 Franklin was asked what kind of government America has, his reply:


Benjamin Franklin's famous quote, "A republic, if you can keep it," reflects his concerns about the ongoing effort required to maintain democracy and self-governance. This statement was made during the Constitutional Convention in 1787, where Franklin was asked about the nature of the government created by the delegates. He emphasized that a republic is not merely a promise but a condition that requires active participation and commitment from the people to ensure its stability and effectiveness. Franklin's perspective underscores the importance of civic engagement and the moral character of citizens in sustaining democratic principles.





dlk

(13,305 posts)
51. It's the billionaire class protecting him
Fri Apr 17, 2026, 01:39 PM
Apr 17

There is nothing they won’t do to keep their iron grip on power.

hadEnuf

(3,644 posts)
53. By playing the long game.
Fri Apr 17, 2026, 02:33 PM
Apr 17

A couple of generations raised on 24/7/365 Fox news propaganda and hate media. The passing of the Greatest Generation who could mostly smell fuckers like Trump a mile away. Unlimited billionaire funds bankrolling whatever the Republican right wants. Strategic planning, infiltration and an opposition party thinking that the "rules" are going to save them.

The extreme right has been conducting an all-out war while many of us still think that fact is debatable.

The Wizard

(13,818 posts)
54. The toxic totalitarian
Fri Apr 17, 2026, 02:35 PM
Apr 17

with help from Vlad the Impaler has erased all vestiges of The Enlightenment and put unbridled fascism front and center. And 30% of the population still supports him. They may eschew their bigotry when 60 hours a week of hard labor won't pay the bills. With pain comes awareness.

PatrickforB

(15,485 posts)
55. This is the culmination of the class war the Robber Barons declared against the New Deal 95
Fri Apr 17, 2026, 02:40 PM
Apr 17

years ago. Those greed-heads have played the long game. Gotta give them that.

But you know what we should ultimately give them? Jail time.

The Wizard

(13,818 posts)
56. If Merrick Garland wasn't asleep at the wheel
Fri Apr 17, 2026, 02:53 PM
Apr 17

Trump and his continuing criminal enterprise would be in the Gray Bar Hotel and License Plate Factory today.

kimbutgar

(27,442 posts)
59. We are a pariah nation now and I AM NOT PROUD TO BE AMERICAN BUT EMBARASSED!
Fri Apr 17, 2026, 04:06 PM
Apr 17

I never thought this country could collapse and we lose our democracy.

dave99

(114 posts)
61. shitstain just proving that Republicans ARE racists, sexist, pedophiles. which is why it got away with all this
Fri Apr 17, 2026, 04:32 PM
Apr 17

MadameButterfly

(4,124 posts)
62. Time to get rid of presidential pardon power
Fri Apr 17, 2026, 04:32 PM
Apr 17

with out any checks. Or at least after, if, we defeat Trump.

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