It's NOT FAIR; They're using the rules we created to cheat against us!

And it wasn't the Texas voters who made the decision to redraw the districts, it was republican politicians.

believe in elections in the first place.

The Repubs can sure hand it out, but they can't take it.......

I can't wait for all the shit they are gonna dream up this year before the mid term election....Including their classic....Their
"October Surprise" they usually reserve for Presidential Elections.......

Side Note: interesting to see our Denver area Dem U.S. Rep, suddenly, out of nowhere already running spots for her re-election.
Obviously, having just coasted along merrily, all these years, with so many of her colleagues, I think she is starting to get worried about being primaried........We also have two such Dem U.S. Senators "awakening" to the fact that we all are getting really upset at the "DO NOTHING"..Dem Politicians.........I cannot say that either of these individuals have represented us in America they way they should have been........along with about 200+ other dem U.S. Senators and members of the house......

The art of their deal?

Even if Trump got 46 percent of the vote in 2024, that is LESS than 50 percent, do why would Democrats have to rig the election to win?

In the first place, there is ample proof in polling and special elections that Trump is very likely less popular than he was in 2024 when he was defeated by 8 percent.

Second, he gives no explanation of how it was rigged. In fact, as an out of stater following it mostly through posts here, it was the Republicans using old comments by the governor and Obama to imply they supported a NO vote, when they favored yes.

By the way, it was only in yesterday's coverage that I heard former AG Holder explain that this map was to counter the Republican gerrymandering AND he and top Democrats favored new maps after the next census be done by non partisan teams. For me, this threaded the needle between being against gerrymandering, but realizing that Republican led states doing it means we have to respond in kind.

Don't mess with Texas

Tom DeLay pushed for mid-decade redistricting in Texas in 2003. And he got it. What Abbott did is not new.

Abbott resisted at first but Trump pushed it

and have run it in for touchdowns since.

"Stop using our own tactics against us! It's Unfair, Illegal, and anything else that sounds good typed in Caps!!!"

you won't see repukes putting it up for a vote

vs 51.5 who did not

that is called "losing"

so STFU

Having just one or two of 12 Congressional districts drawn to favor Democrats is unfair (less than 10%). Which is true, as supporters of the measure admitted. However, the GOP has been doing this for a long time, including egregiously in Wisconsin, but also, yes, the Texas redistricting also draw maps in wild disproportion to overall votes. So Johnson wants to be able to do this in Texas, but not in Virginia. He can eat shit.

I am in Missouri where they are forcing a redistricted map on us regardless of the State's Constitution

Trump said he was Entitled to at least five extra seats in Texas. Republicans rallied around the suggestion and were all on board.

The Democratic Party fighting back? Not so much.

Virginian Louise Lucas said it best:

You all started it and we fucking finished it.

Hahahaha. Love it!

I've seen several articles in the last few months about the Texas power grab, an imposed map as compared to voter choice in VA, and most of them mention that it was based on a belief that they would have the same amount of Latino support as they had Nov. 2024. This is no longer true according to current polling. Their supposition that nothing has changed may cause them to lose 5 more seats. (so sad)
#noKings

GFY.

Six months from now you’ll be out on your ass.

He’ll be, at best, FORMER House Speaker, and at worst, just another job seeker.

These idiots are out there whining about “liberal hypocrisy”. I don’t think they have any idea what the word even means.

Had Texas not approached mid decade redistricting, neither California or Virginia would have followed through on this. Hell, both state referendums aren’t enacting these permanently.

Many democratic states have for years tried to make the process fairer, by giving power to independent commissions. Not a single republican state has done the same.

I’m not saying democratic states don’t gerrymander, but not to the extent republicans have weaponized the process.

They prefer Fascism because they can't govern for the people, just for themselves and their war-criminal accomplices.

"I’m not saying democratic states don’t gerrymander, but not to the extent republicans have weaponized the process."

If Illinois is any example, blue states do gerrymander. Democrats don't go out of their way to weaponize the process, but they do use it to their advantage. Our current congressional district maps are downright embarrassing; my district looks like a 50 mile long snake with an oversized head at each end!

I have mixed feelings about it. It's hard to object to something that gives Dems an advantage, but I'm not going to brag about it, either. The best thing I can say is, Republicans aren't giving us much of a choice. They're going to play dirty no matter what, and we can't just roll over and play dead. This is one area where going high when they go low is NOT a viable option.

I think there should be a constitutional amendment prohibiting political gerrymandering.

But given the games R's play, we have to work within that system. It would be stupid to let them gerrymander a purple state into the deep red category and not react in kind.

areas.

You are also right to point out that none of these referendums are even permanent. In the not-too-distant future, they’re likely going to need to be extended—since the GOP is continuing down this road with or without Trump—but that’s a whole other can of worms.

Not to mention the fact that Republican-controlled states didn’t even LET people vote on this shit. They just forced it through. Almost like they’re fucking fascist or something.

You’d think people would start to get a damn clue.

otherwise it is unilateral disarmament

Well that's not quite enough is it Mikey?

How DARE the Democrats fight back 😠

They never mentioned the orange blasphemer wanted a no vote. That would make the margin even bigger.
Some shit they sprayed ad nauseum on the channels:
Coming for your guns.
Instant healthcare for illegals.
Lax border
No mention of Maga fascism in Texas.

Why haven't we heard ANYTHING from or about MUSK?
In my mind, Musk was THE one who fixed 2024.
If the Democrats take that lightly, you may kiss off '26!
Starlink is still under HIS control and probably a number of computers and companies.
Don't think Musk really hates trump who could help even him.
And the Republicans have MONEY!
Just a sobering thought!

... that he's completely full of BS.

When the voters show up in sufficient numbers, Democratic issues and Democratic candidates always win.
The hard part is getting people to care enough to show up and vote, when the chips are down.

This is awesome news for Virginia voters! Thank you Virginia Democrats for making the difference!

rigging was announced and do nothing. Instead Newsom took the lead and other blue States followed much to the HORROR of Moses Mike.

Tough shit asshat,try and explain it all to your Fuhrer.

In fact, I think there should be an amendment to the Constitution banning it.

But if the R's are going to play that game, we have to act accordingly.

While the other is just running amok.

The rules of the game have been changed by the GOP, as disgusting as they are.

The Dems need to play by the same rules until the next rule change.

"What should be" and "what has to be" aren't always the same thing.

to eat it

Gerrymandering, vote suppression schemes, unlimited dark money, corporate media bias...they're relentless. Convincing people to vote against their own interests isn't easy.

But yeah... When democrats win it's rigged. 🙄

Instead of self-dealing partisan gerrymandering by fiat.

Republicans pulled out all the stops to deceive Virginia voters in their promotional materials about the referendum. We got several mailers a day declaring that Obama and Spanberger want you to vote NO. It was relentless, so much so that I was really concerned that the lies would work. Fortunately, voters saw through the bullsh*t and voted YES.

I think most Virginia voters were perfectly happy with their current district assignments. But the blatant cheating in red states could not go unaddressed. Yes, the new districts are completely disproportionate, but that’s what happens when the other side decides to fight back hard.

🙏

If they wanted to win, all they had to do was nominate a better candidate than Lose-some Penney (Winsome Sears) and turn out in greater numbers yesterday. Damn, I'm glad to live in VA!

He's a RepubliKKKan, ain't he? In the reddest part of the state, ain't he? What did you expect? You knew they'd go out and get the reddest, most corrupt judge they could find to rule on it!

coming out of a Republican's mouth is:

1 Hypocrisy

2 An outright flagrant/blatant lie

3 A complete 180 from reality

We Dems did not start the Gerrymander Wars, trumpass did by coercing Texas.
We Dems are counter punching rather than being a punching bag for trumpass inter alios.

Repubs squealed with delight after Texas approved a five seat gerrymandering pickup, now they are squealing like stuck pigs about how unfair it all is that democrats are counter gerrymandering.
In other words, it's OK fine and dandy if republicans do it, but if democrats do it it's WRONG.
You know their version of Lincoln's quote: "Of the people, for the republicans, and by the republicans".
This will likely be decided in Virginia Supreme Court, hopefully not going further to US scotus.

>>>> not an ego, jimmy the one is a british naval term......