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NH Ethylene

(31,384 posts)
Mon Apr 27, 2026, 09:31 PM Monday

A theory about the "assassination attempt"

Torn between the CT explanation and the 'official' explanation, I was pleased to find a Facebook post, written by Robert Slager, that makes a lot of sense. Here is a piece of it:

I don't believe this was staged. I believe the suspect was radicalized by social media and decided to lash out against his political enemies. But I do think Trump and the Secret Service were aware of the threat in advance. Multiple reports indicated that the suspect's family warned law enforcement about the mental stability of the shooter before the incident began. Instead of cancelling the event, Trump and his team sought to gain maximum political advantage from the situation. Trump and his administration were never in any actual danger. Secret Service confronted the shooter on an entirely different floor. There were dozens of armed officers protecting the ballroom. I think they knew he was coming and did nothing to stop him. Otherwise he would have been shot immediately.


https://www.facebook.com/robert.slager.9
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A theory about the "assassination attempt" (Original Post) NH Ethylene Monday OP
This is the most rational explanation and it makes sense ALBliberal Monday #1
What is the supposed political advantage to Trump? Frasier Balzov Monday #2
Sympathy, paint the media and critics responsible, tool to get his ballroom. mobeau69 Monday #5
US District Judge halts low above ground building of ballroom womanofthehills Monday #11
The advantage was he didn't have to hear them roasting him questionseverything Tuesday #46
Agreed, that's definitely a rational explanation. FoxNewsSucks Monday #3
In another shot, he looks like he has a wry half smile ... Dave says Monday #24
My understanding is the warning from the family came during the event, or immediately before Fiendish Thingy Monday #4
Couple things FHRRK1 Monday #7
I guess we'll find out Fiendish Thingy Monday #25
I think he sent them the message about 10 minutes before. If he sent it earlier, they could have thwarted his plans. LeftInTX Monday #6
That's what I've been thinking. Sogo Monday #8
It seems the agent may have been hit by friendly fire. NH Ethylene Monday #17
hmmmm WarGamer Monday #23
Well that's PROOF!!!!11!1! dpibel Tuesday #39
LIHOP Orrex Monday #9
yup. mopinko Monday #12
Not just plausible, FoxNewsSucks Monday #29
There's a lot of weird stuff here... buzzycrumbhunger Monday #10
Jack Parsons died in 1952, but also recently killed himself? Bongo Prophet Monday #14
Ugh buzzycrumbhunger Tuesday #37
Very intelligent people sometimes do very crazy things, e.g., Ted Kaczinsky, the Unabomber - Ocelot II Tuesday #53
I think there's a strong possibility it happened that way. patphil Monday #13
So, they knew and Let It Happen On Purpose with no concern for others that may have been hit by gunfire ChicagoTeamster Monday #15
That's quite a stretch Fiendish Thingy Monday #26
No. It's absolutely NOT a "stretch". FoxNewsSucks Tuesday #34
+1 Celerity Tuesday #45
A stretch, but they received advance warning from shooter's family and he was still allowed to check into the hotel ChicagoTeamster Tuesday #51
We don't know that the security team on-site had Allen's name before the incident Fiendish Thingy Tuesday #52
Keep in mind, he was not even close to the event location. NH Ethylene Tuesday #56
This message was self-deleted by its author Figarosmom Monday #16
Not what it says in the press. He sent it minutes before the attack. Melon Monday #18
This message was self-deleted by its author Figarosmom Monday #21
So, if you're misremembering, perhaps you should delete your previous post to avoid the spread of misinformation Fiendish Thingy Monday #28
See compilation from googles. Alerted brother 10 min early. Melon Monday #19
Why, that's the most sinister theory yet. usonian Monday #20
Um, you forgot something...I hope Fiendish Thingy Monday #27
Please explain. usonian Monday #30
Just checking if your comment was serious or in jest. Nt Fiendish Thingy Monday #31
Oh, the satire smiley was for me, eh? usonian Tuesday #36
So both JFK and JFKjr are still alive? Fiendish Thingy Tuesday #42
I meant sinister, and fixed my post. usonian Tuesday #44
Thanks for the clarification Fiendish Thingy Tuesday #49
In the criminal complaint filed today, TBF Monday #22
No shoot, just steal his credit card. usonian Tuesday #32
It's just weird, but then criminals aren't known for their logical choices ... TBF Tuesday #55
Epitaph of about every major shooting story... OC375 Tuesday #33
Not if the Steve Scalise's get their way. FoxNewsSucks Tuesday #35
That's basically the theory I've been working with lame54 Tuesday #38
Yes, seems like it happened and there was foreknowledge used to exploit by Trump for ballroom Beringia Tuesday #40
Good grief. Disaffected Tuesday #41
My theory has evolved since Saturday night ecstatic Tuesday #43
It's been my observation that very few people care about this Kaleva Tuesday #48
Did the he family warn the SS directly? Kaleva Tuesday #47
Makes a lot of sense malaise Tuesday #50
Radicalized and Staged. Clouds Passing Tuesday #54
Hopefully better luck next time. IMO republianmushroom Tuesday #57

Frasier Balzov

(5,086 posts)
2. What is the supposed political advantage to Trump?
Mon Apr 27, 2026, 09:35 PM
Monday

All it says to me is that it unsafe to be him, which he has completely brought upon himself.

womanofthehills

(11,007 posts)
11. US District Judge halts low above ground building of ballroom
Mon Apr 27, 2026, 10:48 PM
Monday

Now Trump’s lawyers are already
Saying the building of the ballroom must resume because the Hilton’s large size makes it dangerous and hard to secure.

Dave says

(5,449 posts)
24. In another shot, he looks like he has a wry half smile ...
Mon Apr 27, 2026, 11:37 PM
Monday

… as if to say, “everything is fine here, all going to plan.”

Fiendish Thingy

(23,691 posts)
4. My understanding is the warning from the family came during the event, or immediately before
Mon Apr 27, 2026, 09:38 PM
Monday

My understanding is Allen sent his manifesto to his family as he was departing for the event, so the only preparation time would have been his travel time and the time it took for the family to find the right number to call.

FHRRK1

(75 posts)
7. Couple things
Mon Apr 27, 2026, 09:52 PM
Monday

Yes, that has been reported, but is it completely accurate?
He left CA last Tuesday. Was the report accurate partially, that is did the family notify LE on Saturday evening, reported, but also prior to the event. Almost four full days after leaving CA?




Fiendish Thingy

(23,691 posts)
25. I guess we'll find out
Mon Apr 27, 2026, 11:41 PM
Monday

I think his parents have already been swarmed by the press, so there may be some more info out there.

LeftInTX

(34,724 posts)
6. I think he sent them the message about 10 minutes before. If he sent it earlier, they could have thwarted his plans.
Mon Apr 27, 2026, 09:47 PM
Monday

The purpose of sending the manifesto was so that people knew why he did it, not so that his plans would be cancelled. He thought he would end up dead. If he ended up dead, no one would have his manifesto. (Phones can be difficult to unlock)

Sogo

(7,277 posts)
8. That's what I've been thinking.
Mon Apr 27, 2026, 09:58 PM
Monday

That guy should have looked like Swiss cheese, riddled with bullet holes in an effort to stop him. Something doesn't add up about that alone.

NH Ethylene

(31,384 posts)
17. It seems the agent may have been hit by friendly fire.
Mon Apr 27, 2026, 11:14 PM
Monday

The alleged assassin was running pretty fast in the video clip, and then agent guns were out and 5 shots were fired. The man from California was said to have dropped to the floor at that point, but was not hit. So I don't see how he even had an opportunity to fire any of his weapons.

WarGamer

(18,802 posts)
23. hmmmm
Mon Apr 27, 2026, 11:36 PM
Monday
https://www.cnbc.com/2026/04/27/cole-allen-whcd-arraigment-trump.html

Allen, 31, is also charged with transportation of a firearm or ammunition in interstate commerce, and discharge of a firearm during a crime of violence, a prosecutor said at his arraignment in U.S. District Court in Washington, D.C.

dpibel

(4,001 posts)
39. Well that's PROOF!!!!11!1!
Tue Apr 28, 2026, 12:29 AM
Tuesday

I do believe the charging document artfully avoids the question whether he discharged a firearm.

But you're a careful and anti-propaganda poster, so you surely know that.

FoxNewsSucks

(11,873 posts)
29. Not just plausible,
Mon Apr 27, 2026, 11:57 PM
Monday

but likely. It's the easiest explanation for their actions and reactions.

Some here will continue to make excuses for Krasnov & Associates.

buzzycrumbhunger

(2,094 posts)
10. There's a lot of weird stuff here...
Mon Apr 27, 2026, 10:31 PM
Monday

From FB:.
"Cole Tomas Allen, 31 years old from Torrance, California.
This wasn’t some street criminal…
This was a trained mind.
An engineer. A man educated at California Institute of Technology, one of the most elite scientific institutions on the planet…
Mechanical engineering background. Advanced work in Computer Science. Former NASA JPL intern working on AI and planetary systems…
This is the kind of mind that builds things…
Optimizes systems…
Solves problems most people can’t even understand…
A man trained to improve life.
*snip*
So now you have to ask the question most people don’t want to touch…
How does someone like this.
Highly educated…
Technically trained…
No criminal history…
Capable of complex engineering thought…

End up here?"

What makes this especially weird to me is his connection to JPL and at least two of the dead or missing scientiss there--especially as there's also a connection to the OTO,. Jack Parsons, who founded JPL, was heavily into Crowley and just recently killed himself.

Where do weird coincidences gain traction as legitimate... things? This is all reading like a crazy Robert Anton Wilson novel to my eye. 🤔

Bongo Prophet

(2,760 posts)
14. Jack Parsons died in 1952, but also recently killed himself?
Mon Apr 27, 2026, 11:03 PM
Monday

If Bob Wilson read that he'd come back and then kill himself.
Recently, and perhaps repeatedly.
With 23 stab wounds.

buzzycrumbhunger

(2,094 posts)
37. Ugh
Tue Apr 28, 2026, 12:21 AM
Tuesday

This came from a FB post and didn't give dates. I thought he'd made a big deal about his OTO beliefs *at* work and I wondered if that was relevant--or even still a background thing there.

Obviously, RAW stuck with me over the years. I love a weird conspiracy. 🤪

Ocelot II

(131,015 posts)
53. Very intelligent people sometimes do very crazy things, e.g., Ted Kaczinsky, the Unabomber -
Tue Apr 28, 2026, 10:27 AM
Tuesday

Brilliant mathematician and mad as a hatter. Smart and mentally disturbed are not by any means mutually exclusive; where do you think the "mad scientist" trope comes from?

patphil

(9,157 posts)
13. I think there's a strong possibility it happened that way.
Mon Apr 27, 2026, 11:03 PM
Monday

Let the shooter get close enough to make it look real, and then take him down. I'm surprised they didn't kill him.

ChicagoTeamster

(1,135 posts)
15. So, they knew and Let It Happen On Purpose with no concern for others that may have been hit by gunfire
Mon Apr 27, 2026, 11:10 PM
Monday

Fiendish Thingy

(23,691 posts)
26. That's quite a stretch
Mon Apr 27, 2026, 11:44 PM
Monday

But we live in an era where “You do You” means “make up your own reality”.

FoxNewsSucks

(11,873 posts)
34. No. It's absolutely NOT a "stretch".
Tue Apr 28, 2026, 12:01 AM
Tuesday

The trump fucking liars, grifters and conmen saw an opportunity and exploited it.

It's that simple. I don't know how anyone can continue to defend them.

ChicagoTeamster

(1,135 posts)
51. A stretch, but they received advance warning from shooter's family and he was still allowed to check into the hotel
Tue Apr 28, 2026, 09:57 AM
Tuesday

where the dinner was being held and attendees at the event said that some of them even got in without their ids being checked. Trump had TSA agents at magnetometers (he turned those down on Jan 6th) but they didn't ask for ids? They weren't on the lookout for the shooter who's name they already had?

Either a LIHOP or incredibly incompetent security management.

Fiendish Thingy

(23,691 posts)
52. We don't know that the security team on-site had Allen's name before the incident
Tue Apr 28, 2026, 10:09 AM
Tuesday

We know Allen’s family notified law enforcement before the event, about 10 minutes according to reports posted on this thread and others.

Either a LIHOP or incredibly incompetent security management.


Too many information gaps at present to make such a definitive declaration.

NH Ethylene

(31,384 posts)
56. Keep in mind, he was not even close to the event location.
Tue Apr 28, 2026, 12:49 PM
Tuesday

They caught him well in advance of any danger to the attendees.

Response to NH Ethylene (Original post)

Response to Melon (Reply #18)

Fiendish Thingy

(23,691 posts)
28. So, if you're misremembering, perhaps you should delete your previous post to avoid the spread of misinformation
Mon Apr 27, 2026, 11:48 PM
Monday

Now that you’ve been presented with different information, has your opinion changed?

Melon

(1,577 posts)
19. See compilation from googles. Alerted brother 10 min early.
Mon Apr 27, 2026, 11:21 PM
Monday

He basically alerted the police almost same time as it happened.

“Accused White House Correspondents' Dinner gunman Cole Allen sent an anti-Trump manifesto to his family about 10 minutes before opening fire on Saturday, April 25, 2026. The suspect, who referred to himself as the "Friendly Federal Assassin," detailed his plans to target administration”

usonian

(26,185 posts)
30. Please explain.
Mon Apr 27, 2026, 11:58 PM
Monday

I had a hectic day.

Climbing rocks at age 77 to get flower photos was just the start.

Got spoiler?

usonian

(26,185 posts)
36. Oh, the satire smiley was for me, eh?
Tue Apr 28, 2026, 12:13 AM
Tuesday

Last edited Tue Apr 28, 2026, 01:10 AM - Edit history (1)

Really serious.

In this current world, a kind of mashup of Twilight Zone and Star Trek, the more sinister the villain, the more likely.

usonian

(26,185 posts)
44. I meant sinister, and fixed my post.
Tue Apr 28, 2026, 02:05 AM
Tuesday

I enjoy only CT's that involve those Bond Villains, because people really try to imitate them. No others.

Bond villains, Sebastian Cabot as the devil, Kanamits (I hope, see below) and so on.



Physics grad here. Reality-based, and when you throw in quantum physics, reality is weird and exciting enough to put silly CT's and delusions to shame.

They are poor substitutes, and all their Bond Villain heroes lose bigly anyway. They choose not to notice. I choose to watch them fail (and try to limit the damage they do on the way down.)

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100221203832

Fiendish Thingy

(23,691 posts)
49. Thanks for the clarification
Tue Apr 28, 2026, 09:46 AM
Tuesday

Sorry for being so dense.

I follow your activist posts, so I was pretty sure of your intended meaning, but with all the other declarations of The Truth of The Incident on DU the past few days, a little voice inside me was unsure.

TBF

(36,982 posts)
22. In the criminal complaint filed today,
Mon Apr 27, 2026, 11:32 PM
Monday

the government mentions that Allen "Made a hotel reservation at the Washington Hilton on April 6 for the night before, the night of, and the night after the dinner."

I'm still trying to figure THAT out. The night before yes, night of - ok - he needed the room until he went downstairs. But why the night after? In what world do you shoot the president of the United States and calmly walk back to your room?

OC375

(1,088 posts)
33. Epitaph of about every major shooting story...
Tue Apr 28, 2026, 12:01 AM
Tuesday

“Multiple reports indicated that the suspect's family warned law enforcement about the mental stability of the shooter before the incident began.”

Maybe we’ll get a hint someday.

FoxNewsSucks

(11,873 posts)
35. Not if the Steve Scalise's get their way.
Tue Apr 28, 2026, 12:04 AM
Tuesday

"Guns for EVERYONE!!" is the American Way right up there with apple pie.

Beringia

(5,571 posts)
40. Yes, seems like it happened and there was foreknowledge used to exploit by Trump for ballroom
Tue Apr 28, 2026, 12:35 AM
Tuesday

Far fetched, but Trump was really waxing rhapsodic about what happened

Disaffected

(6,513 posts)
41. Good grief.
Tue Apr 28, 2026, 12:38 AM
Tuesday

The conspiracy theories (actually not really theories as there is damn little evidence to support them; more like wild guesses) are still coming.

All this is contingent on the supposition that law enforcement was informed of the plot before it occurred and, that Trump org. decided to take advantage of it for political gain (for one, to justify the Ballroom of all things). Both, it would seem, highly unlikely and the first, false according to most accounts.

ecstatic

(35,124 posts)
43. My theory has evolved since Saturday night
Tue Apr 28, 2026, 01:21 AM
Tuesday

Looking at the incident in its totality, I don't think tRump knew about the gunman in advance.

First, trump's reaction has been soooo bad and so poorly thought out. He wasn't prepared. I think he was genuinely caught off guard.

Second, Cole is alive! If he were funded by the FBI or tRump's henchmen, I'm pretty sure he would have been killed. But he's alive and ticking.

Third, that manifesto. No way in hell would tRump agree to something like that being written down. And then tRump immediately took credit for being the person that Cole was referring to.

So yeah .. No.... I think it was a real, organic situation, but at this point, it doesn't really matter.

Everyone thinks it was staged. I went to an event on Sunday and nobody believed the official narrative.

Perception is reality. People are tired of tRump's shit. They're tired of all the chaos. This will hurt tRump more than it helps him.

Kaleva

(40,401 posts)
47. Did the he family warn the SS directly?
Tue Apr 28, 2026, 03:18 AM
Tuesday

Or was it LEO in California and did they then pass on the info to the SS and if so, what time did they notify the SS?

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