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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsHopefully the jurors will understand that '86' means to kick someone out of the building.
That is what we used it for when I worked security in hotels, restaurants and the downtown business district 37 yrs ago as a contract security guard.
IMHO.
BannonsLiver
(20,760 posts)jls4561
(3,245 posts)Deuxcents
(27,451 posts)LetMyPeopleVote
(181,210 posts)The latest indictment of the former FBI director is ridiculous, but its part of an unsubtle pattern from the acting attorney general.
The indefensible second Comey indictment is obviously evidence of a weaponized and corrupted Justice Department.
— Steve Benen (@stevebenen.com) 2026-04-28T19:39:33.394Z
But itâs also one of many unsubtle steps Todd Blanche has taken lately to delight Trump and try to nail down an AG nomination.
www.ms.now/rachel-maddo...
https://www.ms.now/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/comeys-second-indictment-shows-the-lengths-blanche-will-go-to-please-trump
In theory, Trumps DOJ should have been chastened by the condemnations and by the cases failure. In practice, the shamelessly weaponized department decided to give it another try. MS NOW reported:
The Trump Justice Department has charged former FBI Director James Comey again, following the dismissal of his first indictment due to the illegal appointment of the prosecutor who secured it.
The new indictment involves allegations that Comey made threats against President Donald Trump in a May 2025 social media posting of a picture of shells on the beach that spelled out 8647, a source familiar with the matter told MS NOW.
I can appreciate why this might seem like an unfortunate attempt at humor, but its apparently quite real. While plenty of political figures from both parties have used 86 over the years as a shorthand for rejecting foes, the president and his team argued in apparent seriousness last spring that the former FBI director had used Instagram to call for violence against Trump by way of a seashell-related code.....
Over the course of a few weeks, the Blanche-led DOJ has prosecuted a progressive group the president hates, intensified a politically motivated purge, advocated firing squads as a method of federal execution while slamming Joe Biden in gratuitous ways, intervened in support of Trumps ballroom crusade and indicted a former aide to Dr. Anthony Fauci (a leading figure on the White Houses enemies list) before indicting Comey (another leading figure on the White Houses enemies list.)
At an official event this week, the acting attorney general offered such sycophantic praise for the president he seemed to be auditioning to star in a Trump campaign ad.
Acting Attorney General Blanche is now doing a campaign-style promo for Trump
— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar.com) 2026-04-27T19:42:41.239Z
No one should want to be an attorney general nominee this badly (under Trump, its not even an especially good job anyway), but Blanches actions are about as subtle as a sledgehammer.
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(136,750 posts)The latter means murder someone.
yellow dahlia
(6,339 posts)Or, no longer available, as in 86 from the Specials list.
It can also mean eliminate. Having word in the restaurant business, I use it often. Eg: I'll have the Garden Salad, 86 the peppers.
LetMyPeopleVote
(181,210 posts)This case is so stupid that Blanche, Patel and the attorney who signed the indictment need to be disbarred or sanctioned. There is existing SCOTUS authority that this statement is protected by the First Amendment. The SCOTUS opinion dealt with a less ambiguous compared to the 8647 being used here
https://firstamendment.mtsu.edu/article/watts-v-united-states/
On further appeal, the Supreme Court reversed in a 5-4 per curiam opinion. The majority determined that the federal statute prohibiting threats against the president was constitutional and that true threats receive no First Amendment protection.
However, the majority also determined that Wattss crude statements were political hyperbole rather than true threats. What is a threat must be distinguished from what is constitutionally protected speech, the majority wrote. The language of the political arena is often vituperative, abusive, and inexact.
The Court agreed with Wattss counsels characterization of Wattss speech as a kind of very crude offensive method of stating a political opposition to the President that did not qualify as a true threat.
Justice William O. Douglas concurred in an opinion that would have gone further than the per curiam majority opinion and invalidated the federal statute. Suppression of speech as an effective police measure is an old, old device, outlawed by our Constitution, he concluded. Justice Abe Fortas, joined by John Marshall Harlan, dissented in a very short opinion questioning whether the Court should have taken the case.

Rilgin
(799 posts)Fire is the last word in a firing squad to kill someone. Republicans constantly used the words 'fire Biden" or "fire Obama" or "fire Clinton". They should all be investigated and arrested for threatening the life of a president.
eShirl
(20,346 posts)Also "deep six."
WarGamer
(18,804 posts)orthoclad
(4,799 posts)Maxwell Smart. Or was it the other one?
Sorry about that, chief.