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(3,921 posts)It's the INTERNET! People aren't allowed to just make up stuff like this?!?
I'm joking around because the tweet cites no sources for the brother/48 hour claim, nor the watch list claim, nor the authorities being warned about Allen ahead of time claim, it's all just "take my word for it". I have to know the person as an honest arbiter before I'll (sometimes) do that, myself, but to each their own
Joinfortmill
(21,490 posts)bucolic_frolic
(55,607 posts)It made no sense with that concentration of elites in one place that everyone under roof wasn't a known entity.
malaise
(297,445 posts)We have a winner
lapfog_1
(31,954 posts)did someone ( brother or relative ) warn the SS that far in advance?
did the shooter check in under his own name?
was Trump in on the "LIHOP" plan or just his usual demented idiotic self?
Why did the shooter exclude Kash Patel from list of targets?
Did the shooter actually fire his weapon at anyone?
I am not willing, yet, to go down the MIHOP or LIHOP rabbit holes.
Also... in either "it was planned or they knew about it" scenario... why didn't they kill the "shooter"? ( dead men tell no tales )
Not saying it could not happen this way... after all I totally believe that Putin told Orban to stage a fake assassination before the elections in Hungary.
Cloudhopper
(181 posts)news a few days ago, because the brother is in Connecticut. But I found this that states he called AFTER the shooting:
White House: Correspondents Dinner shooting suspects brother reported alleged manifesto to New London police
https://www.wtnh.com/news/connecticut/new-london/white-house-correspondents-dinner-shooting-suspects-brother-reported-alleged-manifesto-to-new-london-police/
Kaleva
(40,406 posts)tavernier
(14,489 posts)A police officer came close to losing his life over this game because of a stray bullet, not that that would have mattered to anyone on the dais.
Melon
(1,588 posts)The assassins sent the manifesto to his family only 10 minutes prior to the attack. The brothers call to police was not prior to the actual incident, it was after.
GreatGazoo
(4,660 posts)Not "48 hours in advance"
People can of course believe whatever they like but if we want to understand reality and try to influence it for the better then facts still matter.
https://www.nbcconnecticut.com/news/local/new-london-police/3729701/
intheflow
(30,227 posts)They had lax security and almost all the cabinet present. It was meant to be a spectacle. Its beyond LIHOP. Staged.
AZJonnie
(3,921 posts)At minimum, it's a distinction with no truly meaningful difference.
But at this point I've not found corroboration for the main claims. "Shots will be fired" is at minimum an odd coincidence, but it's a common enough expression along the lines of "there'll be a lot of verbal conflict" that I don't think it can be positively pinned as "evidence". Also, given how much IQ47 pisses people off, and the fact there's been 2 attempts at his life, he can probably assume that attempts will continue. And despite the recent judges order halting the Ballroom construction, the fact that there's lawsuits trying to stop it are much older, so he's had time to strategize to try to push it through.
Thus, I cannot discount the possibility that he decided "next time it happens, I'm going to leverage it to promote the need for the ballroom". Yes, in THIS case it's awfully convenient that it happened at an event he could pertinently claim "this could've been held at said ballroom" (as opposed to, say, a football game at a stadium), but he very well may have pushed the ballroom angle anyway no matter where it was. He doesn't care if everyone is all "WTF, how stupid, you couldn't hold the football game at the ballroom?!?", he'd try it anyway.
And yes it's an odd coincidence it was shortly after a judge put a temporary stop to construction, but again, not quite enough of one that it beggars belief. Taken as a totality of circumstances, it absolutely makes sense to be suspicious, and CERTAINLY one should not trust any aspect of the regime's "official story" because they'd lie about anything. At this point I don't even know we're sure the suspect ever even fired a shot, for example.
BUT, it does at least seem like this dude did go there with the intent to harm people, including POTUS. That aspect seems pretty well confirmed. Could he have been manipulated by the CIA/FBI or the like to get him to act? I'm not sure we could totally rule that out but its seems far-fetched, like out of some Cold War movie plot, but who knows with this regime
lame54
(40,001 posts)When it all comes out
