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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWhich country is most dangerous with a nuclear weapon?
We keep hearing that "we cannot let Iran have a nuclear weapon". Why?
Are they worse than North Korea or Pakistan? But they are Trump's friends.
WMDs, anyone? That's why we invaded Iraq.
The most dangerous country in the world today with a nuclear weapon is Trumpistan America. They have to fight every day to keep him away from the nuclear codes.
marble falls
(72,451 posts)Blues Heron
(8,975 posts)We're the only nation that has ever used nuclear weapons in a time of war. Against civilians, I might add. Not to mention, twelve American POW's died in either the Hiroshima attack or the Nagasaki attack, I can't remember which. So the whole "We're saving American lives" thing rings a little hollow, too.
ms liberty
(11,323 posts)Kid Berwyn
(24,897 posts)
With thanks to KS Toronado.
Doodley
(12,047 posts)be king of the world.
MineralMan
(151,492 posts)is the most dangerous. Actually, I'd say the same from my real perspective as a US citizen and military veteran.
We are the only nation on this planet that has attacked another country with a nuclear weapon. Do the math.
Whip-poor-will
(429 posts)Depleted uranium has the same effects.
MineralMan
(151,492 posts)Not even close. Which is not to say that depleted uranium is not dangerous, of course. It is not nearly as dangerous as an exploding nuclear device, though.
RoseTrellis
(192 posts)Do you think if Germany or Japan had the ability to use a nuke during WWII, would they?
MineralMan
(151,492 posts)What I find interesting is that many nations now have nuclear armaments, but none have used them. That's surprising to me, really.
I'm not a fan of nuclear weapons. Not in the least.
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chouchou
(3,249 posts)..with Vladimir Putin. It wouldn't surprise this person if Trump either thought how to find/get Nuclear weapons (codes) in his little sorry hands or trying to get Putin "to help"
I truly hope I'm insanely wrong.
Martin Eden
(15,826 posts)When I joined DU in 2002 I learned about the PNAC (Project for the New American Century) neocon agenda, which existed before 9/11. They saw the collapse of the Soviet Union as an historic opportunity to use the unparalleled might of the US military to forcibly change regimes, starting with Iraq.
The problem was garnering support from the American public. They stated something like "a new Pearl Harbor" was necessary, then 9/11 provided it. The Bush/Cheney administration launched a systematic campaign of misinformation and lies to conflate Iraq with 9/11, and to convince the public Iraq had rebuilt their biochem and nuclear weapons program, which they hadn't.
Bush put the pressure on, and Iraq allowed UN inspectors into all their facilities to demonstrate there were no WMDs. The UN team was very close to declaring the extensive facilities necessary to enrich uranium and build nuclear weapons did not exist in Iraq.
The rationale for war would have evaporated along with the "mushroom clouds" over American cities Bush told us to fear. So they told the UN inspectors to evacuate before launching "Shock and Awe" in Iraq.
It was a war crime. Now we have another war crime in Iran, with the POtuS claiming there was an "imminent threat" of a nuclear-armed Iran. Another LIE.
wnylib
(26,341 posts)You described it well.
popsdenver
(2,515 posts)I would bet, that 99% of the people in the U.S. don't know a single thing about the PNAC, and how it was a harbinger of things to come, with the Republicans having intentionally ignored all concrete and critical warnings of what was about to happen on 9/11......and spent all their time planning how to conspire to corruptly use it to their advantage in taking over the United States of America.
The perfect title for a book about the past 46+ years would be: WHILE THE NATION SLEPT
"They" were all walking down the jungle path, swatting at mosquitoes, and were oblivious to the herd of charging Elephants......
PUN INTENDED.....Starting with the treasonous installation of Reagan in the White House, by the HWBush CABAL......
And here we are today.......................
IbogaProject
(6,032 posts)I'd say Israel as they blatantly celebrate that they will extinguish life on Earth if they feel threatened all while provoking hostile reactions.
https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/154608
Israeli poet Itamar Yaoz-Kest, a Holocaust survivor, has penned a public "letter-poem" in reply to the "poem" in which German Günter Grass accused Israel of "endangering the already fragile world peace."
The letter-poem was published on journalist Ze'ev Galili's blog, in Hebrew, under the name: "The Right to Exist: a Poem-Letter to the German Author." It addresses Grass, who has admitted to being a member of the Waffen SS during World War II, by name.
The "letter-poem" starts thus:
Danger,
I want to be a danger,
I want to be a danger to the world,
so that after my destruction, not a single blade of grass will remain on the face of the Earth,
or a single blade of grass for Gunther Grass's pipe,
upon the Earth where, since I was born, I pose a danger to the world.
Because it is my right!
It is my right to live or die while annihilating my annihilators, without riding again as a crying-boy in a transport train,
Into the world-vacuum, while placing my head in the lap of a mother who is disappearing into the fresh air of the Land of Wotan,
and the urine tin darts dark-yellow specks onto the walls of the cabin like gunshots that spray
a yellowish-reddish liquid from besides the train guards, and among them maybe the soldier G.G., also, wearing a steel helmet.
Later in the poem, Yaoz-Kest issues what appears to be a statement of intent along the lines of "the Samson Option":
And so, as the strong light of the Land of Israel enters my home, I turn on the radio and cannot help listening to the sermons of the ayatollahs of Iran and to the words of the respected Iranian minister, who shows the map of the Land of Israel with his two hands, to say: "It is so small Within six or seven days it can be erased from the map", or in your language: "ausradieren". And here I am listening to the sermons of the imams in the mosques of the Land of Israel and the Arab lands as they declare "ausradieren!", but they are always referring to me and not to you, Gunther Grass.
And yet, there is a right reserved only to us Jews (if indeed any human on Earth has this right): to be destroyed and to take the weary and sated world with us to the non-existence, along with its wondrous libraries and heart-stirring tunes just so, after we descend to the grave, while the ground emits radioactive rays to all four winds.
Indeed we have the right! It is mine, too!
For it is the right of the Nation of Israel to finally shut the gates to the world after it leaves this place (not of its free will!), and we have the right to say, at the price of the 3,000 year old fear: "If you force us yet again to descend from the face of the Earth to the depths of the Earth let the Earth roll toward the Nothingness."
The Samson Option taking out Israel's enemies with it, possibly causing irreparable damage to the entire world has been floated by Israeli strategists including Ariel Sharon, as a last-ditch option if Israel faces annihilation.
Israel's Interior Ministry has banned Grass from entering Israel following his "letter-poem."
waterwatcher123
(525 posts)Yes, they could trace the origin if it was ever detonated. But, the mere existence of these weapons is a threat to humanity and planetary survival. There have been any number of near misses with nuclear weapons where disaster was narrowly averted.
(https://www.atomicarchive.com/almanac/broken-arrows/index.html).
kimbutgar
(27,463 posts)With Europe, China and Iran against us.
I hate to be pessimistic but everyday the turds ratings go down the most desperate he will get for revenge and retribution. The bully gots to bully!
pwb
(12,789 posts)Iran would be the second country to get a nuclear weapon under Trump.
We must be saving that fact for the Election.
DetroitLegalBeagle
(2,522 posts)North Korea has detonated their first nuke 20 years ago.
yankee87
(2,851 posts)I see no hope with the current administration. The pedo president will use one if okayed by Bibi and Putin.
homegirl
(1,983 posts)Passages
(4,423 posts)obamanut2012
(29,481 posts)usonian
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Bmoboy
(661 posts)It has long been believed that Israel has its own nukes.
If they feel existentially threatened, what would stop them from nuking a neighbor?
Bibi would do it.
That's one of the problems with giving that decision to old men with cancer.