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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsA grammatical observation and question
I've noticed - especially since GW Bush - people no longer call things by their full name. For example calling nuclear power or arms just "nuclear" as in "Iran won't accept an agreement that includes nuclear." Other examples: calling a domestic violence incident "a domestic". or saying "I have bipolar" instead of bipolar disorder. What gives?
And before anybody says it, I know I'm being a stickler and intolerant.
SheltieLover
(81,868 posts)choie
(7,038 posts)Well, he actually said "nucular" But I get what your saying!
SheltieLover
(81,868 posts)Wait till AI finishes the job. 😓
Brother Buzz
(40,487 posts)The Blue Flower
(6,615 posts)Using 'cyber' as a noun.
choie
(7,038 posts)wnylib
(26,528 posts)LearnedHand
(5,627 posts)When you have departments named Cybersecurity its really easy to shorten it to cyber and use it as a noun. Its also useful and efficient.
Disaffected
(6,597 posts)by guess who?
canetoad
(21,077 posts)Give presents, they GIFT items. And there's no more criticising - it's up-market CRITIQUES these days.
choie
(7,038 posts)Easterncedar
(6,503 posts)Is it that irregular verbs confuse people?
I have come to accept that people can't keep affect and effect straight, so no one is affected, we are impacted instead, which always sounds quite uncomfortable to me.
We have forever lost the distinction between jealous and envious, and, heaven help us, the difference between disinterested and uninterested, which seems like a sad loss of a valuable concept. As they say, you better hope you get a disinterested judge in your trial, not an uninterested one.
róisín_dubh
(12,384 posts)canetoad
(21,077 posts)It's like a form of self-congratulation for being generous.
FadedMullet
(1,028 posts).......phrases by saying things like "The lawn needs mowed" instead of "The lawn needs to be mowed".
Easterncedar
(6,503 posts)And ugh "adulting" rather than acting like an adult.
róisín_dubh
(12,384 posts)I couldnt stand it when I lived there
FadedMullet
(1,028 posts)wyn borkins
(1,390 posts)Also, you "might" be a stickler (?)
But you are definitely not intolerant (!)
choie
(7,038 posts)Easterncedar
(6,503 posts)Like "give me the deets" (details). "No prob." Sometimes I get annoyed, but then I recall how long we have called temporary workers temps (even coining the verb temping), automobiles autos then cars, telephones phones, televisions teevees, doctors docs and so on. Is it laziness or efficiency?
Maybe we should have a thread asking for folks' least favorite examples of linguistic shorthand
radical noodle
(10,696 posts)With what, who, when? This bothers me more than any other.
LoisB
(13,555 posts)"thing".
3catwoman3
(29,858 posts)I grew up in the western end of New York State and never heard this until moving to Illinois in 1994. Go with and come with.
Drives me batty.
radical noodle
(10,696 posts)I never heard that anywhere until a few years ago and now I hear/see it often.
WhiskeyGrinder
(27,245 posts)German or some Scandinavian languages.
radical noodle
(10,696 posts)Maybe it's just catching on other places because it seems like it's everywhere now.
WhiskeyGrinder
(27,245 posts)LoisB
(13,555 posts)LoisB
(13,555 posts)these days.
LearnedHand
(5,627 posts)I love how frequently language pokes us in the eye by not being rigid. Maybe a different way to look at this is to celebrate the creativity of ever changing language.
B.See
(8,908 posts)sentence structure, whether that's unusual punctuation, a turn of expression, tossing in a coloquialism, regionalism, street lingo, expletives (when p.oed), alliteration or alternate spellings.
Just to ping the noggin, mix things up a bit, or for a dash of whimsy -
but mostly because I can.
GenThePerservering
(3,779 posts)Disaffected
(6,597 posts)its gonna keep happenin'.
Disaffected
(6,597 posts)is that they still speak English there.
calimary
(90,966 posts)We listen to BBC World Service in the car quite frequently. Just seems like the smart thing to do, these days.
EverHopeful
(709 posts)Not sure why.
One usage that still irks me though, is what feels like an overuse of "concerning." Often things that should be described as horrifying, or at least worrying or troubling, are called "concerning." Always makes me think of Susan Collins.
FadedMullet
(1,028 posts)3catwoman3
(29,858 posts)In my career field, health care be/nursing, to be impacted means to be severely constipated. In other words, truly FOS - full of shit.
Whats wrong with influential? It sounds much more sophisticated and elegant.
LearnedHand
(5,627 posts)Impactful carries the connotation of measurable affects, which is probably why its used more in a business environment. Although influence can also be measured under controlled circumstances, influential does not carry that same meaning.
sdfernando
(6,118 posts)to confusion and misunderstanding. The poster/writer is making tbe reader assume something.....you know what happens we we asume.
Mister Ed
(6,998 posts)H2O Man
(79,293 posts)I have enjoyed reading the OP/thread. It is raining in rural upstate New York. Being very old, and having suffered numerous painful injuries over decades, I have arthritis from my ankles to my neck, or from neck to ankle, if that is more proper. Thus, my repeated attempts to sleep continue to fail. Hence, upon the advice of my medical doctor, I have sought relief by smoking part of a bowl of hashish.
I should note that just before coming to read DU:GD, and selecting your post to read as a result of previous satisfaction in reading and always enjoying reading your comments, I initially had read a couple posts on an internet boxing forum. Since the full impact of the three hits, or inhaling the smoke of burning hashish, had not taken place, when it comes to boxing forums, I am a severe stickler and intolerant of ignorance.
It is my favorite chair for well over sixty years, or six decades, if anyone is keeping track. I spent many nights sitting in this chair after I participated in boxing matches. Although I didn't get hit in my large and rock-like head, I did take punches from shoulders to waist. As I sit here rocking, I think it is possible, perhaps likely, that the sum-total of 329 bouts and countless rounds of sparring have come back to haunt me this morning as I type this at 4:29 am/est. Thus, ignorance expressed as opinion on internet boxing forums annoyed me more ten minutes ago than I could otherwise justify.
A person wrote that Muhammad Ali "is considered a relatively light puncher." Is anyone that stupid? Really? Or was it more likely someone with an agenda of annoying grumpy old men who are up at this hour? Perhaps we will never know. Numerous people corrected him, yet he made a pathetic attempt at insisting he was right. I shall now ponder this, and hopefully, somewhere in the fog of its meaninglessness, fall asleep before the sun comes up.