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kentuck

(115,671 posts)
Mon May 25, 2026, 06:53 AM 4 hrs ago

80 years old is too old to be President?

It is a demanding job, perhaps the most demanding in the world? It is a job for a younger, more energetic person, in my opinion.

It's just a fact of life. Eighty years old is not the same as fifty or sixty years old. I'm sure there are probably exceptions but, generally speaking, our bodies and minds deteriorate when we reach eighty years.

It was too old for Joe Biden and it is too old for Donald Trump. When you fall asleep during the middle of your own speech, it's a sign you may not be all there.

He needs to step down. He can no longer do the job adequately, if he ever could?

It is not ageism, it is reality.

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80 years old is too old to be President? (Original Post) kentuck 4 hrs ago OP
i'm almost there rampartd 4 hrs ago #1
Yet some perform well into their 90s bucolic_frolic 4 hrs ago #2
I'm sure the stress of the job may also take a toll... kentuck 4 hrs ago #3
Agree, it takes order and mental discipline for longevity in positions of power or responsibility bucolic_frolic 4 hrs ago #4
I've always said NJCher 3 hrs ago #6
Yes, I've often envisioned him without money PatSeg 1 hr ago #13
Ronald Reagan did not find it stressful at all. delisen 1 hr ago #10
JFK became a Senator at the age of 36 Kaleva 1 hr ago #12
There should be age limits for members of Congress as well. ProudMNDemocrat 3 hrs ago #5
I have no problem with older representatives. delisen 2 hrs ago #8
It is ageism. delisen 3 hrs ago #7
It is demanding for anyone--especially one not physically and mentally fit... hlthe2b 2 hrs ago #9
Commercial airline pilots have to retire at 65 Grim Chieftain 1 hr ago #11
I'll turn 80 next year... GiqueCee 1 hr ago #14
How many 80 year olds do you see daily delisen 1 hr ago #15
Agreed. It's simply biology not ageism. paleotn 21 min ago #16

bucolic_frolic

(55,903 posts)
2. Yet some perform well into their 90s
Mon May 25, 2026, 07:02 AM
4 hrs ago

I posted an interview with Jeremy Grantham recently, he can still discuss complexities with relevance and eloquence. Of course he's a slim Scotsman who has obviously not filled his life with cheeseburgers.

A treadmill test would separate the fit from the witless.

There is such a thing as too young too. The Doomscroll Generation is ill-prepped for positions of power at 25 or 35. The concepts they understand is Pop Culture Lite. They are ideologue trend followers.

kentuck

(115,671 posts)
3. I'm sure the stress of the job may also take a toll...
Mon May 25, 2026, 07:05 AM
4 hrs ago

Very few have the stress of the presidency.

bucolic_frolic

(55,903 posts)
4. Agree, it takes order and mental discipline for longevity in positions of power or responsibility
Mon May 25, 2026, 07:24 AM
4 hrs ago

Dump is just off the charts. He's telling everyone what to do while others are telling him what to do. This indicates to me a life without boundaries.

Maybe I read it wrong, maybe money is simply the lubricant in all directions. That was his ticket to rise in the world. Without it .....

NJCher

(43,570 posts)
6. I've always said
Mon May 25, 2026, 08:13 AM
3 hrs ago

He would be looking for loose change on the street had he not inherited money.

All the bad genes: he’s got ‘em.

PatSeg

(53,597 posts)
13. Yes, I've often envisioned him without money
Mon May 25, 2026, 09:51 AM
1 hr ago

and it wasn't a pretty sight. He has no real talents or abilities aside from bullying, but he's not smart enough to be a mob boss.

ProudMNDemocrat

(20,987 posts)
5. There should be age limits for members of Congress as well.
Mon May 25, 2026, 08:12 AM
3 hrs ago

There are plenty of members of both houses who are in their 70's and above.

No matter the effectiveness o-rf lack thereof, 75 is old enough for Congress; or when their term ends if over that age. The Military has mandatory retirement for its top officer's at 62. The Catholic Church set 70 as a mandatory retirement age for its Priests.

I will be 74 in 6 days. I am still physically active, mentally sharp, overall healthy, but nor could I do the job of Congress or President. I have slowed down somewhat, but that is part of the aging process. My lower back takes longer to warm up than say 10 years ago.

As for Trump, he is a specimen of garbage. If I ate like he does and had his lifestyle, I would already be dead. This man does not have blood running through his veins, he has VENOM. His luck will run out sooner than later. Dementia is a terrible thing and he has it.

delisen

(7,428 posts)
8. I have no problem with older representatives.
Mon May 25, 2026, 08:35 AM
2 hrs ago

Sheldon Whitehouse and many others are distinguishing themselves everyday in this battle.

It would be great if more democrats would notice and start supporting them.

delisen

(7,428 posts)
7. It is ageism.
Mon May 25, 2026, 08:17 AM
3 hrs ago

Donald Trump eight years ago was unfit for the presidency.The young liar JD Vance is unfit now.

The reality is that the pro democracy majority in our nation failed the vigilance test.

Evil doers, immoral people, thieves, theocrats will seek power and once in charge will use the power to do what they want.

All three branches of our government are in failure. That means the”republic” part of our democratic republic is in failure. What is left is democratic part-that is us. The future of our nation is in our hands.


hlthe2b

(114,742 posts)
9. It is demanding for anyone--especially one not physically and mentally fit...
Mon May 25, 2026, 09:06 AM
2 hrs ago

He is neither and wasn't so 20 years or more ago...

Aging is a continuum and there would be exceptions on both sides of the "bell-shaped curve," but the point here is that he was neither physically nor mentally fit decades ago and is only worse now with advancing dementia and physical infirmities.

Grim Chieftain

(2,087 posts)
11. Commercial airline pilots have to retire at 65
Mon May 25, 2026, 09:45 AM
1 hr ago

and they don't even have the nuclear codes.

Just saying...

GiqueCee

(4,796 posts)
14. I'll turn 80 next year...
Mon May 25, 2026, 10:01 AM
1 hr ago

... and I say, frequently, that memory's one of the first three things to go... I forget what the other two are.
I try to keep my mind sharp by reading voraciously, and keeping up with what's happening in the world, but a rambunctious youth will catch up to you, and my bad knees and worse back won't let me forget it. I don't even buy green bananas anymore. I'll let y'all figure out why.

delisen

(7,428 posts)
15. How many 80 year olds do you see daily
Mon May 25, 2026, 10:10 AM
1 hr ago

How many do you interact with daily?

Carry on philosophical or scientific discussions?

paleotn

(22,790 posts)
16. Agreed. It's simply biology not ageism.
Mon May 25, 2026, 11:05 AM
21 min ago

But there's more. One thought on reading your post. It's kind of an extension of Jefferson's idea that the earth belongs exclusively to the living and the dead have no powers or rights over it. From Jefferson's letter to Madison in 1789.

Now, granted, those in their 80's aren't dead yet, but legislation passed by the McConnell's, Grassley's and even Bernie's of the US Congress, even worse, SCOTUS decisions, have multi generational impacts, and as we've seen, can be damn difficult reverse. The rub being, none of those people will live to see the full repercussions.

If you're 80 you have maybe a decade to a decade and a half left. People in their 30's have 5 to 6 TIMES longer to live with those repercussions. Should they not have the greater say in the matter? Madison responded to Jefferson that predecessors leave a valuable legacy. But not always. Some things are universal truths and span generations, but many things do not. They based their decisions on the world they lived in that may not fully exist anymore. Even while they're still alive.

Obviously there's the argument of experience. I'm approaching mid 60's, and professionally, when it comes to decision making, I'm better than my much younger colleagues. Ironically, faster. Simply because I've been there before. But even if I haven't been exactly there, I still have a good feel for the pitfalls. Similar things that didn't work and why they didn't work. Then again, I've got maybe half a decade left before retirement, maybe more. Those younger colleagues may have to live with the mistakes made by guys like me who've sailed off into retirement. Decisions that made sense at the time but no longer do. Maybe my experience just wasn't valid anymore in an economic environment that's changed drastically since I had a full head of hair.

Not only is there a physical dimension. We may not fully understand the world younger generations live in. Humans are stubborn creatures who don't like change. But reality doesn't care. It keeps changing.

Short answer, yes, there should be age limits. Revised on occasion as human longevity changes. And younger members should have far more say than they have now. They're the one's who are going to have to live with these decisions long after we're gone.

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