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Graham Planter was a mistake: (Original Post) Chasstev365 7 hrs ago OP
There were many red flags but we chose to ignore them. Pisces 7 hrs ago #1
Not all of us. ananda 6 hrs ago #41
WE?? Skittles 3 hrs ago #90
"We" The proverbial Democrats. We supported this guy ala Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren. Pisces 3 hrs ago #100
yeah well, again.... Skittles 2 hrs ago #110
Wow, at least 5 stories on this in the first 20. dem4decades 7 hrs ago #2
I didn't care for either candidate JBTaurus83 7 hrs ago #3
Agreed -misanthroptimist 6 hrs ago #33
Jeez! surfered 7 hrs ago #4
The latest reported problem is only one of many. niyad 7 hrs ago #5
Ah yes, thanks Rawstory for providing, what is it? What exactly? mr715 7 hrs ago #6
NYT and WSJ. You could read about it. mcar 6 hrs ago #18
This message was self-deleted by its author mr715 6 hrs ago #19
Whatever. mcar 6 hrs ago #20
I went a little overboard. mr715 6 hrs ago #21
Multiple news outlets. Google it. surfered 5 hrs ago #58
My reflex is to make fun of rawstory mr715 5 hrs ago #61
I understand. In this case, it's not just Raw Story . It's everybody surfered 5 hrs ago #65
Im glad his wife and he did the work they needed to do to keep their marriage strong. Nanjeanne 7 hrs ago #7
For the record, as a Graham Platner skeptic mr715 7 hrs ago #8
What happened to freedom of expression DaBronx 3 hrs ago #104
The primary is soon. mr715 2 hrs ago #108
And here's some more: mr715 7 hrs ago #9
but Raw Story! Cirsium 6 hrs ago #23
But Susan Collins! mr715 6 hrs ago #24
Here's another difference between Democrats and Republicans: Republicans wouldn't care. surfered 7 hrs ago #10
But the corporate media will make this an issue! Chasstev365 7 hrs ago #12
Just to be clear, I did not mean we shouldn't care. surfered 6 hrs ago #16
Sorry to butt in mr715 6 hrs ago #43
It demonstrates poor judgement. Not only on moral grounds, but expecting so many instances of it not to eventually come surfered 5 hrs ago #51
I mean, what the hell do we know? mr715 5 hrs ago #54
😁🙏 surfered 5 hrs ago #56
I don't know.. whathehell 6 hrs ago #47
I know, too. We wanted so much to control the senate surfered 5 hrs ago #68
Yes, and we may still do that whathehell 4 hrs ago #86
👍 surfered 4 hrs ago #87
You betcha! whathehell 4 hrs ago #89
Consider Abbot in TX. Igel 3 min ago #123
Bring back Governor Mils LetMyPeopleVote 7 hrs ago #11
She had her opportunity to do opposition research. mr715 7 hrs ago #13
Seriously? MorbidButterflyTat 3 hrs ago #98
Nope, not enough. mr715 3 hrs ago #102
Has to be somebody else's fault. Panic as conspiracy is cobbled together. betsuni 2 hrs ago #114
Not being a Mainer, I don't know the story behind her not being the heir to this seat... Mark.b2 5 hrs ago #52
Just makes me despise senator Collins even more!! aeromanKC 7 hrs ago #14
Who made this public, an aide working for Platner's campaign doing oppo research on their own candidate? sop 6 hrs ago #15
I wonder if that Platner aide MorbidButterflyTat 4 hrs ago #82
Many of us have been warning about him. nt mcar 6 hrs ago #17
Of course! MorbidButterflyTat 3 hrs ago #94
He's going to be another Fetterman JustAnotherGen 3 hrs ago #105
The midterm results will be positive either way gulliver 6 hrs ago #22
We don't have that type of time JBTaurus83 6 hrs ago #25
If it gets too obvious he's going to lose... gulliver 6 hrs ago #29
He's ahead by 9 points. mr715 6 hrs ago #31
If something like that were to come out JBTaurus83 6 hrs ago #40
He is not the official nominee. The ME primary election is June 9. N/T lapucelle 3 hrs ago #95
No -- We only win the Senate with Graham Platner. mr715 6 hrs ago #26
Correct JBTaurus83 6 hrs ago #27
If Graham Platner is losing in Maine mr715 6 hrs ago #28
Let's see if there's unrecoverable damage gulliver 6 hrs ago #32
To the reality of winning? mr715 6 hrs ago #34
Could be worse SSJVegeta 6 hrs ago #30
I was a Mills supporter but that's water under the bridge MustLoveBeagles 3 hrs ago #103
Bottom line, Trump has to be put in check. Too oasis 6 hrs ago #35
This MustLoveBeagles 3 hrs ago #106
Meh fujiyamasan 6 hrs ago #36
again... B.See 6 hrs ago #37
Another anti Planter post chelsea0011 6 hrs ago #38
Correct MustLoveBeagles 2 hrs ago #107
"We did the hard work that marriage requires...." mzmolly 6 hrs ago #39
I need you to know MzMolly, I really like you and your opinions. mr715 6 hrs ago #45
Don't count on Mills for having done any oppo research WSHazel 6 hrs ago #42
Talarico and Platner should switch races. sop 6 hrs ago #44
Switch wives. Make it a reality TV show. mr715 6 hrs ago #46
I don't waste time on candidates who lie or hide facts to get nominated. delisen 5 hrs ago #48
Ossoff is a dynamo mr715 5 hrs ago #50
On that we agree. yorkster 1 min ago #124
We shouldn't accept the claim that Platner was "sexting" anyone without seeing the texts. He's controversial... demmiblue 5 hrs ago #49
You are accusing a Democrat of being a white nationalist. mr715 5 hrs ago #53
It's humor and it's funny Quiet Em 5 hrs ago #59
I guess mr715 5 hrs ago #62
No fan of Platner, but could he do a Bill Clinton 1992 primary talk karynnj 5 hrs ago #55
Who cares about his sex life? mr715 5 hrs ago #57
We don't know yet if voters in Maine care, this just came out karynnj 5 hrs ago #63
If you are comparing Clinton to Platner mr715 5 hrs ago #64
Do you remember the 1992 primaries? karynnj 5 hrs ago #66
I was pretty young. mr715 5 hrs ago #67
I hate to admit I was already 42. karynnj 5 hrs ago #69
So you are around my parents age... mr715 5 hrs ago #70
I liked Brown, Tsongus and Harkin karynnj 5 hrs ago #72
is that the bar we want to set? Skittles 3 hrs ago #91
Respectfully, it is a low bar. mr715 3 hrs ago #92
we don't have to lower ourselves to it either Skittles 2 hrs ago #111
I prefer to leave Maine elections to voters in Maine. I would love to hear the thoughts of Mainers. walkingman 5 hrs ago #60
I was always told to Vote Blue No Matter Who AZProgressive 5 hrs ago #71
But David Costello, a 65-year-old Brunswick Democrat Sewa 4 hrs ago #73
Why leak this now? Who benefits? AloeVera 4 hrs ago #74
Wait a sec... purity tests? mr715 4 hrs ago #76
Think of it as the Literal Purity Test. AloeVera 4 hrs ago #79
Oh I get it, so as long as kneel on enough glass mr715 4 hrs ago #81
Why yes! But actually... AloeVera 4 hrs ago #83
Gonna level with ya -- I still think Platner is gonna win. mr715 4 hrs ago #84
I do too. AloeVera 4 hrs ago #85
We don't know who leaked it. Quiet Em 4 hrs ago #88
Do you really think Collins' team doesn't have tons of oppo on him? mcar 3 hrs ago #96
Well, let's help her out then! AloeVera 3 hrs ago #97
Oh, so we hide all his red flags? mcar 3 hrs ago #101
Janet Mills suspended her campaign. mr715 2 hrs ago #109
Felonious adulterer and neo-Nazi supporter Paxton is going to shame Platner? AloeVera 2 hrs ago #113
Well. That clinches it. I will never date or marry Graham Platner. Scrivener7 4 hrs ago #75
Why not? mr715 4 hrs ago #77
I wouldn't date or marry him before this came out. He's kind of a pig. But I'd vote for him if I lived in Maine. Scrivener7 4 hrs ago #78
he gives me the creeps Skittles 3 hrs ago #93
Winner! AloeVera 4 hrs ago #80
We have a 3-time adulterer in the White House and sexual assaulter videohead5 3 hrs ago #99
That's why I'm going to hold off until November before calling Platner a mistake. BannonsLiver 2 hrs ago #112
It doesn't matter whether we think all this is disqualifiying or not. DemocratSinceBirth 1 hr ago #115
We're Democrats. We can overlook just about anything. Seeking Serenity 1 hr ago #116
We don't know details other than "sexting" TVguyCards 1 hr ago #117
Seems like an issue between der Austerfuhrer and his wife hardluck 1 hr ago #118
Unacceptable, please reconsider. mr715 59 min ago #119
Hard disagree Music Man 56 min ago #120
the real question Skittles 9 min ago #122
His wife summed it up well luv2fly 31 min ago #121

Pisces

(6,336 posts)
100. "We" The proverbial Democrats. We supported this guy ala Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren.
Sat May 30, 2026, 08:52 PM
3 hrs ago

JBTaurus83

(1,720 posts)
3. I didn't care for either candidate
Sat May 30, 2026, 04:57 PM
7 hrs ago

But, I don’t give a shit about their personal life. We have a rapist as president, and a senator in Maine that supports rapists.

Response to mcar (Reply #18)

mr715

(4,296 posts)
61. My reflex is to make fun of rawstory
Sat May 30, 2026, 06:45 PM
5 hrs ago

because they make money on doing what I end up having to do anyway.

In this case, apparently the wife is reporting proactively that text might be a problem in the future tense. And that they attended counseling and that their "marriage is stronger than ever".

Like, if I were prone to a certain sort of conspiratorial thinking (wink wink), I'd say there are no texts at all and he is a articulating perhaps the best media-driven narrative possible.

I'm partially joking. It sucks if he cheated on his wife. But I don't really care because neither his wife nor he are my friend. He is indicating he will take a hatchet to billionaires. I'd like that.

surfered

(14,535 posts)
65. I understand. In this case, it's not just Raw Story . It's everybody
Sat May 30, 2026, 06:55 PM
5 hrs ago

And it shows poor judgment on his part. That many different women and he didn’t think it would come out? As a candidate, his decision affect us. He was 7 points up on Collins before this news broke. I now expect the worst.

Nanjeanne

(6,663 posts)
7. Im glad his wife and he did the work they needed to do to keep their marriage strong.
Sat May 30, 2026, 05:02 PM
7 hrs ago

And unless his messages were with underage women or vulnerable women he was using some influence of power with — this is going to smack of desperation looking for a story.

mr715

(4,296 posts)
8. For the record, as a Graham Platner skeptic
Sat May 30, 2026, 05:03 PM
7 hrs ago

Anyone on this thread giving this oxygen is supporting Susan Collins.

DaBronx

(781 posts)
104. What happened to freedom of expression
Sat May 30, 2026, 09:01 PM
3 hrs ago

Truth be told he is a poor candidate who continues to damage the party.

mr715

(4,296 posts)
9. And here's some more:
Sat May 30, 2026, 05:08 PM
7 hrs ago

Why couldn't Governor Mills find this oppo with the full force of Schumer and Gillibrand?


The reason is because this is oppo from the Collins campaign and we, as Democrats should know better.


If he has sex tapes, I hope he and has wife enjoy them. I care not the least little bit about his personal life because he is saying the right mouth words and his opponent, Susan Collins, can't even form a sentence.

It is concerning that I am this concerned by this post.

I apologize for 3 direct replies to the same post.

surfered

(14,535 posts)
10. Here's another difference between Democrats and Republicans: Republicans wouldn't care.
Sat May 30, 2026, 05:09 PM
7 hrs ago

Including the “family values” voters.

Chasstev365

(8,207 posts)
12. But the corporate media will make this an issue!
Sat May 30, 2026, 05:15 PM
7 hrs ago

They let an adjudicated rapist off the hook, but mark my words, they will make this an issue to help Collins. The Nazi tattoo doesn't help either.

At the same, they will gloss over Ken Paxton's infidelity.

mr715

(4,296 posts)
43. Sorry to butt in
Sat May 30, 2026, 06:10 PM
6 hrs ago

But we shouldn't care, either. Politicians are vehicles for policy and we shouldn't look to them for moral clarity. They are as a consequence of power, history, and law by nature compromised. As such, all our candidates are at best complex and at worst compromised.

Where it matter is the words they say and the deliverables they achieve. In this contest, it is between Graham Platner who is saying some seriously solid mouth words, and Susan Collins who is made of jello.

As a matter of political tactics, I think it is fascinating that his sex life is coming up, considering his opponent who I believed is the uncontested sexiest member of Congress.

surfered

(14,535 posts)
51. It demonstrates poor judgement. Not only on moral grounds, but expecting so many instances of it not to eventually come
Sat May 30, 2026, 06:26 PM
5 hrs ago

Out. He ended up giving ammunition to his enemy. And we will end up being the worst for it…losing a seat in the Senate.

mr715

(4,296 posts)
54. I mean, what the hell do we know?
Sat May 30, 2026, 06:28 PM
5 hrs ago

Maybe Maine voters what a candidate that has had sex in the last 30 years.

whathehell

(30,554 posts)
86. Yes, and we may still do that
Sat May 30, 2026, 08:09 PM
4 hrs ago

and I certainly hope we do!

My point isn't that Planter should end his campaign. As some others have noted, this couple has apparently worked it out, and it is something that's essentially between them.

Having said that, I just get a bit tired of people acting like cheating on a spouse "means nothing" in terms of character or eligibility, especially in the case of a candidate whose past has already come under some scrutiny.

That's all folks.


Igel

(37,626 posts)
123. Consider Abbot in TX.
Sun May 31, 2026, 12:11 AM
3 min ago

Yes, he won the primary by a wide margin.

But a lot of (R) consider him scum and either voted Cornyn or just sat out the run-off.

That is, some (R) care.

MorbidButterflyTat

(4,795 posts)
98. Seriously?
Sat May 30, 2026, 08:48 PM
3 hrs ago

The Nazi tattoo, his use of the word ret*rd, and this charming comment:

"...people concerned about rape should 'take some responsibility for themselves and not get so f—-ked up they wind up having sex with someone they don’t mean to.'”

wasn't enough to sink this guy? And it's Janet Mills' fault??

mr715

(4,296 posts)
102. Nope, not enough.
Sat May 30, 2026, 08:53 PM
3 hrs ago

He's running and winning and she suspended her campaign when polls showed her 30-40% behind.

betsuni

(29,335 posts)
114. Has to be somebody else's fault. Panic as conspiracy is cobbled together.
Sat May 30, 2026, 10:11 PM
2 hrs ago

Mills' (Old! AIPAC!), Corporate Dems (corrupt campaign contributions! AIPAC!), diabolical centrist establishment rigging cabal establishment, Bigfoot (AIPAC!) ... no purity tests allowed (that's for the enemy, the Democratic Party).

Holding feet to the fire, earn my vote, lesser of two evils, vote my conscience -- we won't be seeing these kinds of moral outcries.

Mark.b2

(827 posts)
52. Not being a Mainer, I don't know the story behind her not being the heir to this seat...
Sat May 30, 2026, 06:26 PM
5 hrs ago

I trust Maine Democrats have a reason.

sop

(19,486 posts)
15. Who made this public, an aide working for Platner's campaign doing oppo research on their own candidate?
Sat May 30, 2026, 05:19 PM
6 hrs ago

(Raw Story) "Platner's wife, Amy Gertner, told his Senate campaign about the texts with several different women, insider sources told the WSJ. Gertner discovered the texts in spring 2025, and in August, she told an aide whom she considered a friend, while the campaign was doing opposition research on Platner, the WSJ reported."

MorbidButterflyTat

(4,795 posts)
82. I wonder if that Platner aide
Sat May 30, 2026, 07:56 PM
4 hrs ago

his wife considered a "friend" has a closet full of MAGAt hats.

MorbidButterflyTat

(4,795 posts)
94. Of course!
Sat May 30, 2026, 08:27 PM
3 hrs ago

Throw out a competent, successful woman governor for a younger white male with at least half a dozen red flags blazing, and shockingly, there's more! Who could've guessed that!

gulliver

(14,113 posts)
22. The midterm results will be positive either way
Sat May 30, 2026, 05:36 PM
6 hrs ago

We'll either make gains or we'll learn who to run (or not) in 2028.

JBTaurus83

(1,720 posts)
25. We don't have that type of time
Sat May 30, 2026, 05:43 PM
6 hrs ago

He’s the official nominee, so we need to make sure he wins in one of this nation’s most important elections. I see certain Democrats can be bashed here though while others cannot. I saw a Dem “strategist” go right on to Fox News and claim it would be fine for Susan Collins to win.

She should tell that to women all over the country who lost the rights to their own bodies. That is directly due to Susan Collins and Dump. It always amazes me that democrats will tear each other apart first, even when we have actual Nazis running the country.

gulliver

(14,113 posts)
29. If it gets too obvious he's going to lose...
Sat May 30, 2026, 05:50 PM
6 hrs ago

...it would be his duty to the party to step aside and endorse a write-in for Mills, imo. I don't know if we're there yet. That would be a desperation move. I'm waiting for our elected leaders to weigh in, frankly.

JBTaurus83

(1,720 posts)
40. If something like that were to come out
Sat May 30, 2026, 06:06 PM
6 hrs ago

I would fully agree. We need that seat. So far, he seems to be ahead of Collins.

mr715

(4,296 posts)
26. No -- We only win the Senate with Graham Platner.
Sat May 30, 2026, 05:44 PM
6 hrs ago

Don't pretend otherwise.

Don't equivocate.

THIS is the race that will be the harbinger of the night. So those among us that pearl clutch at his orgasmic practices are only helping Susan Collins and therefore control of the Senate.

Purity tests my somewhat-digusted-but-resigned-for-and-yet-enthustiatic-support of Graham Platner ass.

gulliver

(14,113 posts)
32. Let's see if there's unrecoverable damage
Sat May 30, 2026, 05:53 PM
6 hrs ago

There's no rule that Dems can't react real time to reality.

mr715

(4,296 posts)
34. To the reality of winning?
Sat May 30, 2026, 05:56 PM
6 hrs ago

He is ahead by 9 points.

Susan Collins looks like an undead muppet.

It seems to me that you are suggesting the Democratic party use the above information to seize defeat from the jaws of victory.


Graham Platner is beating Susan Collins. He is saying the correct mouth words. He is running a campaign strong enough to outperform national Democrats in a season when Democrats are already outperforming.

He is running a campaign so good that Susan Collins had to acknowledge her fucking tremor.

What are you talking about!?

SSJVegeta

(3,218 posts)
30. Could be worse
Sat May 30, 2026, 05:51 PM
6 hrs ago

He could have voted to end abortion rights for millions of Americans and protected a belligerent president for years while helping forfeit the role of congress from oversight roles entirely.

MustLoveBeagles

(17,586 posts)
103. I was a Mills supporter but that's water under the bridge
Sat May 30, 2026, 08:58 PM
3 hrs ago

Platner is our nominee for better or worse. We need every seat we can get.

fujiyamasan

(2,090 posts)
36. Meh
Sat May 30, 2026, 05:58 PM
6 hrs ago

I wasn’t his biggest fan, but right now the only thing that matters is beating Collins.

There were issues with both candidates in my opinion. Going with Mills would have posed its own problems. She was a great candidate on paper, but I think there should have been alternatives to Platner, who was barely vetted, and Mills who is close to 80 years old. There’s also a lot of anti establishment vibes, and rightly or wrongly Mills is viewed as the establishment pick, especially since she was Schumer’s chosen candidate.

B.See

(8,916 posts)
37. again...
Sat May 30, 2026, 06:00 PM
6 hrs ago

Lesser of two evils.

When he starts promoting cutting food and health aid for children worldwide,

kicking millions off of snap and Medicaid,

killing Black jobs and silencing minority representation via gerrymandering and voter suppression,

locking women and children up in concentration camps under some bullshit 'worst of the worst' LIE,

tanking the economy, killing off environmental and consumer protections,

sabotaging the function of government via the installation of A PUPPET AUTOCRACY,

ending birthright citizenship,

'taking over elections,

partnering with authoritarian dictators to engage in war (i.e. LAND GRABS),

WHILE pocketing BILLIONS of profit on the taxpayer's dime,

(and that's not nearly the HALF of it)...

then CALL me.

chelsea0011

(10,250 posts)
38. Another anti Planter post
Sat May 30, 2026, 06:04 PM
6 hrs ago

I’m a Mainer and beating Susan Collins is all that matters. Platner is a multi tour veteran who came home and posted crap. So what? Collins supports Trump almost all the time. You choose.

MustLoveBeagles

(17,586 posts)
107. Correct
Sat May 30, 2026, 09:17 PM
2 hrs ago

Time to support ALL Democratic nominees. I as an Illinoisan , preferred Mills but as an out of stater I had no say. Mainers have made their choice. Platner now needs our support. Hold your nose if you have to. We need every seat we can get.

mzmolly

(52,867 posts)
39. "We did the hard work that marriage requires...."
Sat May 30, 2026, 06:05 PM
6 hrs ago
"We did the hard work that marriage requires. We went to counseling. We were honest with each other in ways that weren't easy," Gertner said in a statement provided to the WSJ by Platner's campaign. "Our marriage today is stronger than ever before."


Not my business, unless laws were broken. Doesn't sound like they were.

That said, he's not a Presidential candidate or I might think differently about his character and vulnerabilities. We're in the Trump era where pedophiles are being actively protected by the Republican Party. There is no comparison.

WSHazel

(855 posts)
42. Don't count on Mills for having done any oppo research
Sat May 30, 2026, 06:09 PM
6 hrs ago

She didn't want to run for this seat, and was happy to drop out. Schumer basically guilted her into doing it, which was a huge mistake. She barely ran a campaign at all.

sop

(19,486 posts)
44. Talarico and Platner should switch races.
Sat May 30, 2026, 06:11 PM
6 hrs ago

Platner's online philandering would pale in comparison to Paxton's sleaze, and Talarico's christian beliefs would make Collins look downright immoral.

mr715

(4,296 posts)
46. Switch wives. Make it a reality TV show.
Sat May 30, 2026, 06:12 PM
6 hrs ago

I'm sorry, it is a bad and unfunny joke but it immediately popped into my head and I just felt compelled to pitch it.

delisen

(7,441 posts)
48. I don't waste time on candidates who lie or hide facts to get nominated.
Sat May 30, 2026, 06:16 PM
5 hrs ago

So I don’t worry about Senator Fetterman or a possible future Senator Platner.

I do not have big money resources but I do volunteer my time and my voice to persuade others to vote for Ossoff and candidates who share my values

I figure Elizabeth Warren, and Bernie Sanders can continue working for Platner and persuading Maine voters.

mr715

(4,296 posts)
50. Ossoff is a dynamo
Sat May 30, 2026, 06:24 PM
5 hrs ago

I remember him debating the empty podium, and doing it in a compelling way.

He is another eventual President.

demmiblue

(39,986 posts)
49. We shouldn't accept the claim that Platner was "sexting" anyone without seeing the texts. He's controversial...
Sat May 30, 2026, 06:19 PM
5 hrs ago
We shouldn’t accept the claim that Platner was “sexting” anyone without seeing the texts. He’s controversial, there are a lot of attempts to sink him, and it’s perfectly possible the texts were just innocent discussions of securing the existence of our people and a future for white children.

We shouldn’t accept the claim that Platner was “sexting” anyone without seeing the texts. He’s controversial, there are a lot of attempts to sink him, and it’s perfectly possible the texts were just innocent discussions of securing the existence of our people and a future for white children.

Illegal Aliens And Women Hat (@kenwhite.bsky.social) 2026-05-30T22:17:19.507Z

mr715

(4,296 posts)
53. You are accusing a Democrat of being a white nationalist.
Sat May 30, 2026, 06:27 PM
5 hrs ago

I am not alerting this post because I don't know if you posted this in error or not.

Quiet Em

(3,057 posts)
59. It's humor and it's funny
Sat May 30, 2026, 06:43 PM
5 hrs ago

It's making fun of his most vocal defenders, white guys, who will say or do anything to defend him.

Like this one

Platner could’ve sexted my mom and I’d still vote for him

Secular Talk (@kylekulinskishow.bsky.social) 2026-05-30T20:57:38.424Z


I mean, .... way past ridiculous at this point

karynnj

(61,141 posts)
55. No fan of Platner, but could he do a Bill Clinton 1992 primary talk
Sat May 30, 2026, 06:33 PM
5 hrs ago

like the 60 minutes where he spoke of causing pain in his marriage. I have not read enough to know what he said or did, but was it worse than Clinton and Flowers and Jones?

In some ways, there could be similarities. Like Hillary, his wife is standing behind him. Also they apparently worked to keep their marriage together. Also, the Republican is a generation older person who at that point was uninspiring.

Like others, I wish he would have been eliminated by all the things that already came out. However, the fact that he over that time became more popular, suggests he might in some ways be like Clinton. Clinton was able to make people forgive him.

The primary is June 9th, which seems to late to switch to anyone else. Mills might be the only option and it is not clear she could win the primary.

mr715

(4,296 posts)
57. Who cares about his sex life?
Sat May 30, 2026, 06:38 PM
5 hrs ago

Donald Trump is President.

Jeffrey Epstein is on the ballot.

karynnj

(61,141 posts)
63. We don't know yet if voters in Maine care, this just came out
Sat May 30, 2026, 06:46 PM
5 hrs ago

As Platner seems to be charismatic and Maimers did not hold all the other stuff against him, I was suggesting that as he will likely be our candidate, that the Clinton example could work.

Not to mention, if Trump becomes sufficiently unpopular in Maine, it is possible ANY Democrat will win as they vote to try to keep Trump accountable.

mr715

(4,296 posts)
64. If you are comparing Clinton to Platner
Sat May 30, 2026, 06:47 PM
5 hrs ago

there is a lot of very interesting things to unpack, and I'd love to hear more.

karynnj

(61,141 posts)
66. Do you remember the 1992 primaries?
Sat May 30, 2026, 06:55 PM
5 hrs ago

Do you remember that Hillary and Bill Clinton went on 60 minutes because revelations of his relation with Gennifer Flowers were threatening his rise in the primaries. Hillary was incredible pointing out she was not just standing by her man.

I don't know how to compare the flaws or the good qualities of the two men. It is also true that culture of 1992 is not the culture of 2026. Not to mention that knowing nothing of his wife, Hillary was exceptional and likely pulled him out of this trouble.

mr715

(4,296 posts)
67. I was pretty young.
Sat May 30, 2026, 06:58 PM
5 hrs ago

I was in 4th grade, so my political awareness was not very nuanced.

It did start my lifelong desire to see Sec. Clinton become President.

karynnj

(61,141 posts)
69. I hate to admit I was already 42.
Sat May 30, 2026, 07:06 PM
5 hrs ago

My oldest was a couple of years younger and was very proud that she pulled the lever when we went to vote.

mr715

(4,296 posts)
70. So you are around my parents age...
Sat May 30, 2026, 07:08 PM
5 hrs ago

My dad liked vacillated between Brown and Clinton but was a truly rapid Clinton lover. Particularly of his intelligence and rhetorical ability.

Bill Clinton is another very interest contrast with Barack Obama, who was equally intelligent and rhetorically masterful, but applied this differently.

karynnj

(61,141 posts)
72. I liked Brown, Tsongus and Harkin
Sat May 30, 2026, 07:12 PM
5 hrs ago

I was concerned about environmental issues as his Arkansas record was not good. I was impressed by both Clintons' intelligence.

I was blown away by Obama.

walkingman

(11,190 posts)
60. I prefer to leave Maine elections to voters in Maine. I would love to hear the thoughts of Mainers.
Sat May 30, 2026, 06:45 PM
5 hrs ago

AZProgressive

(30,008 posts)
71. I was always told to Vote Blue No Matter Who
Sat May 30, 2026, 07:10 PM
5 hrs ago

Even if I wasn't a big fan I would still support the nominee even after my preferred candidate lost the primary.

As far as Platner he is great on policy but there are red flags in his background. I believe he has made mistakes he apologized for which is something that Trump would never do.

Sewa

(1,643 posts)
73. But David Costello, a 65-year-old Brunswick Democrat
Sat May 30, 2026, 07:24 PM
4 hrs ago

Long-shot Senate hopeful tells Maine Democrats Graham Platner isn’t their only option

But David Costello, a 65-year-old Brunswick Democrat who has experience in federal, state and local government, continues to make the case to voters ahead of the June 9 primary that he’s the best one to take on Republican Sen. Susan Collins in the fall.

https://www.pressherald.com/2026/05/21/longshot-senate-hopeful-tells-maine-democrats-graham-platner-isnt-their-only-option/

AloeVera

(4,457 posts)
74. Why leak this now? Who benefits?
Sat May 30, 2026, 07:30 PM
4 hrs ago

Fom the NYT article:

In a statement released by the campaign, [Platner's wife] Ms. Gertner suggested that she had been betrayed by Ms. McDonald, saying she was “deeply hurt” and bothered by “the invasion of our privacy.”

“I confided deeply personal details about my marriage to someone I considered a friend,” she said. “I trusted this person with the most private chapter of our lives — the early days of our marriage before any campaign was on our mind.”


Unlocked:
https://www.nytimes.com/2026/05/30/us/politics/graham-platner-maine-senate-texts.html?unlocked_article_code=1.mVA.N7oK.801gKbSUrwkY&smid=url-share

Are we falling into a trap here? Made too easy by a propensity to eat your own and the (apparently selective) donning of puritan robes in the ultimate "purity test".

I hope this desparate attempt to derail Platner fails. Makes me wonder though why exactly he seems such a threat to too many - on both sides.


mr715

(4,296 posts)
76. Wait a sec... purity tests?
Sat May 30, 2026, 07:34 PM
4 hrs ago

I thought those only worked one way.

(As a ludicrous rhetorical construction used to discredit people questioning the orthodoxy when the orthodoxy fulfill 2 conditions: being wrong AND losing elections)

AloeVera

(4,457 posts)
79. Think of it as the Literal Purity Test.
Sat May 30, 2026, 07:44 PM
4 hrs ago

Purity being derived from puritanical. As in a rigid insistence on moral purity.

Of course the Original Purity Test has stood the test of time and is not likely to be supplanted or replaced - not for a while at least. It's still so useful!

mr715

(4,296 posts)
81. Oh I get it, so as long as kneel on enough glass
Sat May 30, 2026, 07:47 PM
4 hrs ago

we can kill whoever we want overseas!

AloeVera

(4,457 posts)
83. Why yes! But actually...
Sat May 30, 2026, 08:01 PM
4 hrs ago

Staying silent on the killing of babies and schoolkids and starving their remaining relatives is perfectly fine - but SEXTING is a bridge too far!



mr715

(4,296 posts)
84. Gonna level with ya -- I still think Platner is gonna win.
Sat May 30, 2026, 08:04 PM
4 hrs ago

And however flawed he may be, the greater the well-deserved humiliation for Susan Collins.

Maybe no more kneeling on glass for Democrats. Hopefully.

AloeVera

(4,457 posts)
85. I do too.
Sat May 30, 2026, 08:07 PM
4 hrs ago

In fact I think there's a chance this may backfire. Desparation looking for a story, as I think you aptly put it. Voters are smarter than we think.

Quiet Em

(3,057 posts)
88. We don't know who leaked it.
Sat May 30, 2026, 08:11 PM
4 hrs ago

Amy Gertner shared the texts with several members of the campaign staff.

Genevieve McDonald confirmed it to the NY Times as did another current Platner Campaign staffer.

mcar

(46,415 posts)
96. Do you really think Collins' team doesn't have tons of oppo on him?
Sat May 30, 2026, 08:39 PM
3 hrs ago

They've got the attack ads ready to go as soon as the primary is over. Blaming the leaker is weak sauce. We all knew Platner had tons of red flags.

mcar

(46,415 posts)
101. Oh, so we hide all his red flags?
Sat May 30, 2026, 08:52 PM
3 hrs ago

Why? Because he's for Medicare for all? We ignore his rape apologia, his Nazi tat, his many other - and relatively recent - foul statements?

People here and elsewhere smeared the hell out of Janet Mills, a good, solid Democrat who has done a lot for her state. Oh, but she's old!!11

He should have been thrown to the curb the second the Nazi tat came out. Instead, we're possibly stuck with a very publicly flawed nominee. Because why? Because his supporters brushed off his flaws and made up crap about Mills (AIPAC sound familiar?).

At some point we have to actually vet candidates realistically. Platner threatens all of our Senate candidates. I can already see Paxton coming out with ads saying Talarico and his party support Nazis who are sexual predators.

But sure, let's just close our eyes about it all.

mr715

(4,296 posts)
109. Janet Mills suspended her campaign.
Sat May 30, 2026, 09:23 PM
2 hrs ago

Because he's medicare for all? Yeah, in part.

Janet Mills, you describe as a "good, solid Democrat". The thing is voters aren't interested in "good, solid Democrats". They don't want their old reliable team of oxen.

They want fire, not kindling.

AloeVera

(4,457 posts)
113. Felonious adulterer and neo-Nazi supporter Paxton is going to shame Platner?
Sat May 30, 2026, 09:44 PM
2 hrs ago

There is projection and then there is comedy. Paxton would be laughed off the airwaves. Hope he goes for it!

https://www.houstonpublicmedia.org/articles/news/houston/2026/02/06/542808/ken-paxton-screwston-antifa/

It's not just single payor. It's a whole new perspective that resonates. Anti-war, anti MIC, anti-oligarch, pro-worker, no more weapons to Israel, stop the genocide. The latter of course is why AIPAC opposes him and calls him a " direct threat to the US-Israeli relationship". It's clear the knives are out for him.



mr715

(4,296 posts)
77. Why not?
Sat May 30, 2026, 07:35 PM
4 hrs ago

As I crudely suggested in a post a deleted because of initial crudeness: no one's seen the tapes. Maybe it tickles the right buttons.

Scrivener7

(60,125 posts)
78. I wouldn't date or marry him before this came out. He's kind of a pig. But I'd vote for him if I lived in Maine.
Sat May 30, 2026, 07:36 PM
4 hrs ago

He's the one we got.

videohead5

(3,010 posts)
99. We have a 3-time adulterer in the White House and sexual assaulter
Sat May 30, 2026, 08:50 PM
3 hrs ago

And we are concerned about some text messages? He and his wife went to marriage counseling, and she said that their marriage was stronger than ever.

DemocratSinceBirth

(102,021 posts)
115. It doesn't matter whether we think all this is disqualifiying or not.
Sat May 30, 2026, 10:19 PM
1 hr ago

It only matters what the voters of Maine think. Everything else is noise.

Seeking Serenity

(3,329 posts)
116. We're Democrats. We can overlook just about anything.
Sat May 30, 2026, 10:43 PM
1 hr ago

Our guy had a Nazi tattoo for years upon years and only covered it up when it became politically expedient? Not a problem. He's our guy. We're Democrats.

A Democratic candidate has a demonstrated history of racist shitposts on Reddit? Absolutely nothing to see here. We're Democrats.

Our guy gets outed by his wife for having sexual conversations with other women, demonstrating a real lack of judgment? Kyle says he could rape his mom, and he'd be OK with it. So must we all. We're Democrats.

Would we accept even a tiny fraction of such deeds from anyone who isn't us? Absolutely not, and fuck you for even thinking that we might! We're Democrats!

TVguyCards

(33 posts)
117. We don't know details other than "sexting"
Sat May 30, 2026, 11:05 PM
1 hr ago

We don't know what's up other than hearsay about this.
I think many possibly may be equating this to sexual harassment which is quite understandable given what we've all seen and been through the last several years with Trump. Naturally a default position of that is going to take the lead but what if this was consensual and had nothing to do with sexual harassment anything?

I think we're at a very different time in this country where a majority of voters really don't care much about this at all and are focused on how they're going to afford rent, health insurance, groceries, and gas in their tanks especially if this has nothing to do with sexual harassment. Should it though then that's a whole other store entirely and he's done.

Republicans will drag up anything and everything they can which includes openly lying to their base about the Democrats running against them. That's evident with how shit bags like Stephen Miller say Talarico is trans and a vegan. And those consuming such nonsense will never vote for any Democrat to begin with.

Platner should lean into this and challenge the Republicans who will go after him with this. He should straight up ask them why they're so concerned about this when their guy, Trump, is in the Epstein files more than 35,000 times, is a rapist, and fucks around on every wife he's ever had.

I only hope that he does do that.

hardluck

(795 posts)
118. Seems like an issue between der Austerfuhrer and his wife
Sat May 30, 2026, 11:12 PM
1 hr ago

They went to counsel and seemed to resolve the issue. He just needed a bit of lebensraum.

Music Man

(1,665 posts)
120. Hard disagree
Sat May 30, 2026, 11:18 PM
56 min ago

Politically, he's what we have been begging for. An unapologetic progressive who isn't filtered through corporate, focus-tested crap.

Personally, it's clear he's not been a Boy Scout. But he attributes much of his past bad behavior to PTSD and alcohol, and I'm willing to at least entertain what that might be like. And to the current topic, his wife is upset that it was leaked, given it was a personal matter that they addressed, worked on, and she loves him.. Unless you can point to something illegal in these texts, can we move on rather than eat our own?

If Platner was so awful from the get-go, why is the best that Schumer could recruit a 78-year-old, unenthusiastic Janet Mills? I mean, Jesus Christ. What an inept party.

Skittles

(173,121 posts)
122. the real question
Sun May 31, 2026, 12:05 AM
9 min ago

why is the choice an "unenthusiastic 78-year old" and a creep with a nazi tattoo?

THAT is the real WTF

luv2fly

(2,725 posts)
121. His wife summed it up well
Sat May 30, 2026, 11:43 PM
31 min ago

"It's shameful behavior to spend time and energy and resources on negative ads and negative stories."

Yes indeed.

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