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Very sad
ProfessorGAC
(77,423 posts)...I can't find much sympathy either.
I don't believe his neighbor about the victim's willingness to let other have their opinions.
The displays were ostentatious & provocative and the guy was looking for an argument in a grand fashion. Keep shoving his opinion in others' face and he was bound to get his argument.
Unfortunately, he found an argument with a crazy and it got him killed.
I guess I sympathize with the wife. She certainly didn't deserve widowhood like this.
But, I honestly don't care about the guy, undeserved death notwithstanding.
Climate Crusader
(175 posts)Absolutely no room for this crap in the US that I hope Democrats are working to shape.
ProfessorGAC
(77,423 posts)I said the killer was crazy to have acted like this.
I never said I approved.
In fact my post title says the exact opposite.
wnylib
(26,605 posts)ProfessorGAC
(77,423 posts)I think the attacker is out of his mind & a murderer.
Have no idea how you got that I promote violence.
I just don't care about this particular guy.
wnylib
(26,605 posts)you condoned the murder. I was only expressing how I feel about it.
ProfessorGAC
(77,423 posts)Of course, there is the assumption that the attack was politically motivated.
It may not have been but the attacker still killed a guy in a fight, including aggravating circumstances.
One can't head stomp someone unless they are already down & defenseless.
The attacker is in big, big trouble.
MustLoveBeagles
(17,684 posts)Murder is not okay like you said.
ForgedCrank
(3,126 posts)the question would be, why would someone not have sympathy for a murder victim? He was living his own life and did nothing to provoke such levels of violence. Frankly, I have sympathy for anyone in the victims case. Who they voted for or what kind of tacky garbage they decorate their property with is not the switch that flips my sympathy on or off, so I have to ask the question.
biophile
(1,610 posts)I dont condone political violence- (even though I have been very tempted to do it myself, my better angels have prevented action, so far) - but we dont know for sure from this if the victim was attacked for his Drumpf support or some other reason or if he started the fight. This was Fux News so you can assume half of the story is missing and the other half misleading.
haele
(15,647 posts)A guy like that doesn't know how to back down, and if he got in the face of someone who had made an offhand negative comment or he thought "didn't belong" and that person was already pissed or had an aggressive response reaction, a fight would not be unlikely.
Curb-stomping is not an unheard of reaction by bullies or gang members who grew up like Kegsbreath or the Proud Boys - where beating the crap out of anyone who offended you is the mark or a privilege of "virile Manhood".
On edit, it's not that I'm making an excuse, but this isn't the first time this sort of crime has occured.
The only reason this is making the news is because the guy was a local controversial personality.
When a drunk uncle decides to do a beat down on an uppity YA nephew who "disrespected" him at a block party and curb stomped the young man into the hospital in a coma with a severe concussion, cracked shoulders and upper back spine damage, it doesn't make the news.
sarisataka
(22,877 posts)And if he was stomped on the head it was not self-defense.
It was murder, regardless of the reporting source.
biophile
(1,610 posts)I would damn sure be certain they werent getting up to finish the job.
Lifeafter70
(1,218 posts)justaprogressive
(7,245 posts)Celerity
(55,090 posts)It serves as the California counterpart to the New York Post, and is owned by News Corp.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_Post
News Corporation, referred to as "News Corp," was started in 1980 in Australia. It was founded by Rupert Murdoch, who led the company in its publishing, in both news and books, as well as television. These were all published in the United States, the United Kingdom, and Australia, allowing the new and growing company to gain popularity worldwide.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/News_Corp
biophile
(1,610 posts)We may not know for a long time, if ever, what precipitated this event. Now two lives are forever changed.
sarisataka
(22,877 posts)That's it.
No excuses, politics or qualifications.
Murder cannot be justified.
sop
(19,533 posts)highplainsdem
(63,334 posts)who was most recently registered to vote as a Republican.
https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/2026/05/28/prior-allegations-of-violence-ptsd-cited-in-court-docs-against-suspect-in-trump-house-assault/
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According to documents filed in family court last year, Butlers wife said that Butler had been the subject of multiple domestic violence calls, welfare checks by police and various mental health cases between February 2020 and February 2025. Those alleged incidents do not appear to have resulted in any criminal charges in San Diego County, according to a search of court records.
According to military records reviewed by the Union-Tribune, Butler left the Navy as a surface warfare specialist with multiple achievement and good conduct medals in 2023 after serving 12 years. In September 2020, Butler and his wife purchased a home on Magnolia Avenue, a few blocks from Sherons house, according to property records.
Butler registered as a Republican in April 2025 and voted in the Republican primary in 2024, according to county voter registration records. In the 2020 presidential primary, he voted as no party preference.
-snip-
SheltieLover
(81,971 posts)highplainsdem
(63,334 posts)SheltieLover
(81,971 posts)Lifeafter70
(1,218 posts)This sad story may have nothing to do with politics.
MichMan
(17,470 posts)Ms. Toad
(38,871 posts)I wondered, since they never directly mentioned a motive - or the political party of the attacker. But they sure implied it was politically motivated.
Cha
(321,003 posts)than anything.
TY, hpd!
biophile
(1,610 posts)Like gun shooting incidents, poor mental health is frequently a root cause.
obamanut2012
(29,555 posts)DET
(2,625 posts)Not the brightest bulbs in that neighborhood. The attack was probably unjustified, but people are getting pushed to their limit and have had it with ignorant obnoxious MAGAts. Something like this was bound to happen sooner or later.
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Brother Buzz
(40,502 posts)Emile
(43,581 posts)niyad
(134,376 posts)flvegan
(66,584 posts)Boo1
(517 posts)I have a limited bandwidth of give a fucks and one maga loon stomping out another maga loon doesn't pass the bar.
pecosbob
(8,512 posts)J_William_Ryan
(3,611 posts)True.
Just as disgraceful is that the reprehensible right will run this into the ground with lies about the left being violent.
buzzycrumbhunger
(2,246 posts)
oasis
(54,108 posts)FHRRK1
(163 posts)seems to be a neighborhood beef with a 32 year old suffering from PTSD.
LeftInTX
(34,879 posts)eppur_se_muova
(42,643 posts)Can't imagine what that does to property values.
LudwigPastorius
(15,105 posts)he lives in a "librul" state without the death penalty.
ColoringFool
(1,203 posts)red dog 1
(33,564 posts)Having PTSD is no excuse to punch a 69-year-old man in the face and then kick him in the head twice when he's on the ground.
I hope he's charged with either 2nd degree Murder, or Manslaughter.
Cha
(321,003 posts)more violence.
electric_blue68
(27,461 posts)Cha
(321,003 posts)a registered R Vet with PTSD.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=21275786
electric_blue68
(27,461 posts)Cirsium
(4,158 posts)What ridiculous coverage. Oh, NOW Trump supporters are worried about violence, and NOW the reporters are worried about it. NOW we are supposed to worry about innocent victims, and to see Trump supporters as the innocent victims. The implication in the story is that someone opposed to Trump is the murderer. That may be true, but nothing in the report supports that.
MustLoveBeagles
(17,684 posts)But this was inexusable. I don't even care about the motive or perpetrator. Wrong is wrong. I don't have to like the victim to say that. Condolences to family and friends.