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Owner of California house covered in Trump signs is stomped to death (Original Post) BlueWaveNeverEnd Jun 1 OP
While I Can't Condone The Attack... ProfessorGAC Jun 1 #1
This is disgraceful. He may have been looking for an argument, but curb-stomping is not debate. Climate Crusader Jun 1 #3
Were You Expecting A Debate? ProfessorGAC Jun 1 #6
Murder is not the answer. Why let a MAGA trigger such anger? wnylib Jun 1 #4
I Didn't Say It Was ProfessorGAC Jun 1 #5
Soryy, I did not intend to say or imply that wnylib Jun 1 #7
Then We Agree ProfessorGAC Jun 1 #13
I have sympathy for his family, that's it MustLoveBeagles Jun 1 #9
This message was self-deleted by its author ForgedCrank Jun 2 #40
One wonders why the beating occurred- was it political or self defense biophile Jun 1 #2
It could just be a "Get off my lawn" gone wrong. haele Jun 1 #8
It doesn't matter if it was political sarisataka Jun 1 #12
Agree that's probably not self defense but If someone was trying to kill me, biophile Jun 1 #24
I too want to know why this happened Lifeafter70 Jun 1 #31
Background from an non-faux source justaprogressive Jun 1 #10
The California Post is an American conservative daily tabloid newspaper published in Los Angeles, California. Celerity Jun 1 #20
Thank you - I know I could have looked it up in the time it took for me to question the motive biophile Jun 2 #48
This is wrong, unacceptable and intolerable. sarisataka Jun 1 #11
Totally agree. sop Jun 1 #27
There's no evidence the Trump signs were the cause of the attack. The assailant was a veteran with PTSD highplainsdem Jun 1 #14
Ty for sharing, HPD SheltieLover Jun 1 #26
Yvw, Sheltie! highplainsdem Jun 1 #28
😃👍 SheltieLover Jun 1 #29
Thank you Lifeafter70 Jun 1 #32
Why is someone with a history of violent behavior and mental issues out roaming the streets looking for another victim? MichMan Jun 1 #35
Thank you. Ms. Toad Jun 1 #36
That took a sharp turn. This tells us more Cha Jun 2 #46
Thank you for that extra information biophile Jun 2 #49
The killer was another wingnut obamanut2012 Jun 1 #15
He 'Past' Away DET Jun 1 #16
Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 1 #17
LG Emile Jun 1 #19
Fifth time today. Why am I riffing on Dan hicks & His Hot Licks? Brother Buzz Jun 1 #22
LOL, likes being spanked. Emile Jun 1 #23
Darn, I missed one of our resident trolls again? niyad Jun 2 #51
Violence is never the answer. n/t flvegan Jun 1 #18
Maga on maga violence Boo1 Jun 1 #21
MAGA on MAGA violence... pecosbob Jun 1 #25
"This is disgraceful." J_William_Ryan Jun 1 #30
Very sad indeed... buzzycrumbhunger Jun 1 #33
Hate to see political violence. nt oasis Jun 1 #34
I don't think it was political FHRRK1 Jun 2 #41
Where's an HOA when you need one? LeftInTX Jun 1 #37
Maybe that *was* the HOA ... they'd have as much reason as anybody. eppur_se_muova Jun 1 #38
The Republican alleged-murderer is probably glad right about now that... LudwigPastorius Jun 2 #39
Lawn Rage. ColoringFool Jun 2 #42
Butler's wife, Breana, had been separated from him for two years due to his violent nature. red dog 1 Jun 2 #43
That's awful! And, jsut gives fuel for Cha Jun 2 #44
Yikes! Not good! electric_blue68 Jun 2 #45
P.S. I just read upthread that the suspect is Cha Jun 2 #47
Yeah, i saw that. electric_blue68 Jun 2 #50
FFS Cirsium Jun 2 #52
I may not think much of most MAGA's MustLoveBeagles Jun 2 #53

ProfessorGAC

(77,652 posts)
1. While I Can't Condone The Attack...
Mon Jun 1, 2026, 04:29 PM
Jun 1

...I can't find much sympathy either.
I don't believe his neighbor about the victim's willingness to let other have their opinions.
The displays were ostentatious & provocative and the guy was looking for an argument in a grand fashion. Keep shoving his opinion in others' face and he was bound to get his argument.
Unfortunately, he found an argument with a crazy and it got him killed.
I guess I sympathize with the wife. She certainly didn't deserve widowhood like this.
But, I honestly don't care about the guy, undeserved death notwithstanding.

Climate Crusader

(181 posts)
3. This is disgraceful. He may have been looking for an argument, but curb-stomping is not debate.
Mon Jun 1, 2026, 04:33 PM
Jun 1

Absolutely no room for this crap in the US that I hope Democrats are working to shape.

ProfessorGAC

(77,652 posts)
6. Were You Expecting A Debate?
Mon Jun 1, 2026, 04:39 PM
Jun 1

I said the killer was crazy to have acted like this.
I never said I approved.
In fact my post title says the exact opposite.

ProfessorGAC

(77,652 posts)
5. I Didn't Say It Was
Mon Jun 1, 2026, 04:38 PM
Jun 1

I think the attacker is out of his mind & a murderer.
Have no idea how you got that I promote violence.
I just don't care about this particular guy.

wnylib

(26,787 posts)
7. Soryy, I did not intend to say or imply that
Mon Jun 1, 2026, 04:42 PM
Jun 1

you condoned the murder. I was only expressing how I feel about it.

ProfessorGAC

(77,652 posts)
13. Then We Agree
Mon Jun 1, 2026, 05:02 PM
Jun 1

Of course, there is the assumption that the attack was politically motivated.
It may not have been but the attacker still killed a guy in a fight, including aggravating circumstances.
One can't head stomp someone unless they are already down & defenseless.
The attacker is in big, big trouble.

Response to ProfessorGAC (Reply #1)

biophile

(1,679 posts)
2. One wonders why the beating occurred- was it political or self defense
Mon Jun 1, 2026, 04:33 PM
Jun 1

I don’t condone political violence- (even though I have been very tempted to do it myself, my better angels have prevented action, so far) - but we don’t know for sure from this if the victim was attacked for his Drumpf support or some other reason or if he started the fight. This was Fux News so you can assume half of the story is missing and the other half misleading.

haele

(15,699 posts)
8. It could just be a "Get off my lawn" gone wrong.
Mon Jun 1, 2026, 04:45 PM
Jun 1

A guy like that doesn't know how to back down, and if he got in the face of someone who had made an offhand negative comment or he thought "didn't belong" and that person was already pissed or had an aggressive response reaction, a fight would not be unlikely.

Curb-stomping is not an unheard of reaction by bullies or gang members who grew up like Kegsbreath or the Proud Boys - where beating the crap out of anyone who offended you is the mark or a privilege of "virile Manhood".

On edit, it's not that I'm making an excuse, but this isn't the first time this sort of crime has occured.
The only reason this is making the news is because the guy was a local controversial personality.
When a drunk uncle decides to do a beat down on an uppity YA nephew who "disrespected" him at a block party and curb stomped the young man into the hospital in a coma with a severe concussion, cracked shoulders and upper back spine damage, it doesn't make the news.

sarisataka

(22,983 posts)
12. It doesn't matter if it was political
Mon Jun 1, 2026, 05:00 PM
Jun 1

And if he was stomped on the head it was not self-defense.

It was murder, regardless of the reporting source.

biophile

(1,679 posts)
24. Agree that's probably not self defense but If someone was trying to kill me,
Mon Jun 1, 2026, 08:33 PM
Jun 1

I would damn sure be certain they weren’t getting up to finish the job.

Celerity

(55,301 posts)
20. The California Post is an American conservative daily tabloid newspaper published in Los Angeles, California.
Mon Jun 1, 2026, 05:41 PM
Jun 1

It serves as the California counterpart to the New York Post, and is owned by News Corp.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_Post

News Corporation, referred to as "News Corp," was started in 1980 in Australia. It was founded by Rupert Murdoch, who led the company in its publishing, in both news and books, as well as television. These were all published in the United States, the United Kingdom, and Australia, allowing the new and growing company to gain popularity worldwide.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/News_Corp

biophile

(1,679 posts)
48. Thank you - I know I could have looked it up in the time it took for me to question the motive
Tue Jun 2, 2026, 08:29 AM
Jun 2

We may not know for a long time, if ever, what precipitated this event. Now two lives are forever changed.

sarisataka

(22,983 posts)
11. This is wrong, unacceptable and intolerable.
Mon Jun 1, 2026, 04:57 PM
Jun 1

That's it.
No excuses, politics or qualifications.

Murder cannot be justified.

highplainsdem

(63,667 posts)
14. There's no evidence the Trump signs were the cause of the attack. The assailant was a veteran with PTSD
Mon Jun 1, 2026, 05:07 PM
Jun 1

who was most recently registered to vote as a Republican.

https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/2026/05/28/prior-allegations-of-violence-ptsd-cited-in-court-docs-against-suspect-in-trump-house-assault/

A 32-year-old man accused of assaulting the owner of the “Trump House” in Escondido was described in court documents as a veteran suffering from post-traumatic stress disorder with a history of violent, threatening behavior, according to a petition filed by his estranged wife last year in San Diego Superior Court.

-snip-

According to documents filed in family court last year, Butler’s wife said that Butler had been the subject of multiple domestic violence calls, welfare checks by police and various mental health cases between February 2020 and February 2025. Those alleged incidents do not appear to have resulted in any criminal charges in San Diego County, according to a search of court records.

According to military records reviewed by the Union-Tribune, Butler left the Navy as a surface warfare specialist — with multiple achievement and good conduct medals — in 2023 after serving 12 years. In September 2020, Butler and his wife purchased a home on Magnolia Avenue, a few blocks from Sheron’s house, according to property records.

Butler registered as a Republican in April 2025 and voted in the Republican primary in 2024, according to county voter registration records. In the 2020 presidential primary, he voted as no party preference.

-snip-

MichMan

(17,603 posts)
35. Why is someone with a history of violent behavior and mental issues out roaming the streets looking for another victim?
Mon Jun 1, 2026, 11:18 PM
Jun 1
According to documents filed in family court last year, Butler’s wife said that Butler had been the subject of multiple domestic violence calls, welfare checks by police and various mental health cases between February 2020 and February 2025. Those alleged incidents do not appear to have resulted in any criminal charges in San Diego County, according to a search of court records.



Ms. Toad

(38,895 posts)
36. Thank you.
Mon Jun 1, 2026, 11:24 PM
Jun 1

I wondered, since they never directly mentioned a motive - or the political party of the attacker. But they sure implied it was politically motivated.

biophile

(1,679 posts)
49. Thank you for that extra information
Tue Jun 2, 2026, 08:32 AM
Jun 2

Like gun shooting incidents, poor mental health is frequently a root cause.

DET

(2,669 posts)
16. He 'Past' Away
Mon Jun 1, 2026, 05:24 PM
Jun 1

Not the brightest bulbs in that neighborhood. The attack was probably unjustified, but people are getting pushed to their limit and have had it with ignorant obnoxious MAGAts. Something like this was bound to happen sooner or later.

Response to DET (Reply #16)

Boo1

(592 posts)
21. Maga on maga violence
Mon Jun 1, 2026, 05:44 PM
Jun 1

I have a limited bandwidth of give a fucks and one maga loon stomping out another maga loon doesn't pass the bar.

J_William_Ryan

(3,643 posts)
30. "This is disgraceful."
Mon Jun 1, 2026, 09:02 PM
Jun 1

True.

Just as disgraceful is that the reprehensible right will run this into the ground with lies about ‘the left’ being ‘violent.’

FHRRK1

(200 posts)
41. I don't think it was political
Tue Jun 2, 2026, 12:44 AM
Jun 2

seems to be a neighborhood beef with a 32 year old suffering from PTSD.

eppur_se_muova

(42,887 posts)
38. Maybe that *was* the HOA ... they'd have as much reason as anybody.
Mon Jun 1, 2026, 11:53 PM
Jun 1

Can't imagine what that does to property values.

LudwigPastorius

(15,237 posts)
39. The Republican alleged-murderer is probably glad right about now that...
Tue Jun 2, 2026, 12:14 AM
Jun 2

he lives in a "librul" state without the death penalty.

red dog 1

(33,714 posts)
43. Butler's wife, Breana, had been separated from him for two years due to his violent nature.
Tue Jun 2, 2026, 01:13 AM
Jun 2

Having PTSD is no excuse to punch a 69-year-old man in the face and then kick him in the head twice when he's on the ground.

I hope he's charged with either 2nd degree Murder, or Manslaughter.

Cirsium

(4,215 posts)
52. FFS
Tue Jun 2, 2026, 01:46 PM
Jun 2

What ridiculous coverage. Oh, NOW Trump supporters are worried about violence, and NOW the reporters are worried about it. NOW we are supposed to worry about innocent victims, and to see Trump supporters as the innocent victims. The implication in the story is that someone opposed to Trump is the murderer. That may be true, but nothing in the report supports that.

MustLoveBeagles

(18,251 posts)
53. I may not think much of most MAGA's
Tue Jun 2, 2026, 01:50 PM
Jun 2

But this was inexusable. I don't even care about the motive or perpetrator. Wrong is wrong. I don't have to like the victim to say that. Condolences to family and friends.

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