But I understand the only sin is having a Nazi tattoo.

Greatest moral collapse in US history.

Unsolicited texting of dick pics and things, absolutely. I think we can agree that's wrong.

But how is sexting itself wrong and victimizing if it's between consenting adults?

I'm just not a prude I guess. God, we're about to have porn wars again, aren't we.

Dating relationships can go bad and abusive. Film at 11. Hell, actual sexual relationships between adults can go abusive real quick.

We don't sit there tutting at people having sex. Because that would be called an anxiety disorder.

But sexting between consenting adults?

Well, it's Pride month. I suppose I'll have to start telling my gay friends to knock it off. Hell, it's how half our dating relationships start. But maybe we're all uneducated that sexual activities between consenting adults isn't meeting with approval.

If sexter is using an app frequented by teens, how does the sexter know how old whoever on the other end is? Do tell.

to consenting adults. Clearing, an adult interacting with a minor is distinct and the adult should face harsh legal consequences. And if that is the case with a politician they need to be removed from office. Anthony Weiner is the obvious example. He had been one of my favorite members of Congress until that case was exposed. But, again, that is distinct from if Weiner was sexting another adult.

we need to start picking and vetting better candidates rather than making excuses and exceptions for the ones found with these types of flaws. Obviously, the bar needs to be reasonable due to a pretty non-existent pool of pure humans, but there does need to be a baseline and some consistency. Backing this guy doesn't portray consistency or commitment to what we claim to represent at all.

I've said from the beginning Platner was problematic, but Mills was also a terrible choice to recruit to oppose him. The result of that is what it is. I'm in California, so I completely get having not great primary choices.

But there's a lot of disingenuous pearl clutching over things other adults do that is a little odd to observe in a Democratic space. Calling Platner a cad or cheater or shitty guy or whatever is perfectly fine.

Now it's getting weird. "All sexting is bad!" Not cheating or infidelity, but the act of sexting itself.

And from my LGBT perch, I'm just sitting here like, "Do y'all know what Grindr is?"

I really want to make a penne joke here but I can't seem to figure one out.

in which Peter received a notification from his "grinder" app, to which his wife reacts "Isn't that the app for men to have anonymous gay sex?"

Peter then clarifies it is "grinder" not "grindr" and is an app for middle aged married men to trade sandwiches.

and a frigid b*tch because you have the temerity to disagree with the bros.

Hardly a bro.

Maybe a brolie!

Dunno. Needs a word.

I dunno why you called her a fb. That was weird. No one said that, and it's strange to just inject that epithet right into the conversation like that. Is everything ok?

Prudish? Yes, disapprovingly tut-tutting at consensual behavior among adults is not my idea of liberalism. And the idea that "Enjoyable things many adults do in a healthy manner can go wrong, so you shouldn't do it!" is an anxiety issue.

People need to work through their issues in their own homes instead of inflicting them upon others who aren't doing a damn thing that affects them.

Consenting adults are just that.

Not my "cup-of-tea" but neither is Country Music, but, hey, it takes all kinds to make the world go 'round.

1. Puts a marriage at risk. Why assume a female is doing this outside of marriage? I did it all the time with my husband. Yes, I once accidentally sent a text about blowing my husband to my son’s guitar teacher, but it ended up in an apology and not endangering my marriage.

2. Revenge I am not sure I have ever sent sexually explicit photos to anyone, including my husbands or boyfriends. Pictures and videos can be taken in person (again, something I never did), so it could be spread whether sexting or in person. It just could never happen to me.

3. I guess blackmail and revenge could go hand in hand. Yeah; having an affair, being kinky, being gay or numerous other things can open you up for blackmail. I knew a kinky guy in government. A girl he was involved with tried to blackmail him. That is the only person I have ever known of being blackmailed. It was a man, and it did not involve sexting, just like some of the other examples I gave do not have to involve sexting.

4. Now we are getting into minors and not necessarily females. Definitely not women. It kills me when people and/or the news refers to pedos victims as women. They are not. They are children.

Anything that can happen in a sexting conversation can happen in a hotel room/on the phone/personal relationship.

I do not even share regular photos of me. The reason? Scammers will ask for a photo of you, even on sites where you already have photos, because they will then use your photo to catfish other people. They are trying to get photos which are not public, so it is harder for the person being scammed to figure out they are being scammed. So, no one gets any photo of me.

I have sexted with folks I am in a relationship with. I never felt victimized. I totally disagree with the reasons set forth in the link.

Men sex text men. Period.
Heteronormativity much?

Etc. But in my day we did it over the phone with long distance boyfriends. Are we really judging adult people and their individual sexual activity? Infidelity Im not a fan of and wouldn’t tolerate in my personal life. But I don’t give a shit about someone else.

There is only one that is unforgivable

in general none of my fucking business. HOWEVER...a partner doing it? uh, no. me doing it behind a partners back? no. somebody purporting to be some kind of a leader? well, obviously that is more complicated. would prefer leadership to be ethical, moral types of people. so then it goes to circumstances. it goes to maturity and judgement. the guy in question could genuinely be growing up before our eyes. or he could be full of shit.

don't put anything in writing you wouldn't want the whole world to see. still relevant advice. LOL

Back in the day, I had a bumper sticker that read:
Focus On Your Own Fucking Family

For your amusement:
https://www.instagram.com/p/C19C1j7P99c/

don't run for public office.

He should've listened, but I reckon it was his last ditch plan to make some real money so he ran

as a non-consenting adult in this situation? And by sexter I mean the husband who is texting other women while married?

Is our argument now that cheating is healthy for marriage?

Do tell. Do you at least agree that not everybody is into the "open" relationships?

about the sexting.

NT

I need to know if a candidate is prone to deception or fails to honor promises and commitments.

But had I been old enough to vote it would have been one factor of many to consider.

"Dear Puritans,
Get fucked.
Love & hugs,
ZDU"

I mean, when it comes to sexual behavior and matters of consent, I would only involve the people within the act - not the people who are outside of it. That would be a weird standard, wouldn't it? I've had friends tell me they hate someone I've been dating. Does that mean they're non-consenting adults because they don't approve of what I'm doing?

It's a weird standard to create with so many extremely odd implications. Are religious parents of a minor teenager who has sex non-consenting adults? Do you see what I mean about what a bizarre rabbit hole everyone could quickly go down? If mom's cheating on dad, are there non-consenting children?

I think a spouse - and most spouses, really - would consider it infidelity. Sure.

But I don't think consent is a question in this equation unless one of the actual parties involved in the act isn't consenting.

The spouse who doesn't appear to be thrilled by all this.

But I don't know where the word "consent" comes to play in this. If the expectation is monogamy, then no partner of a cheating spouse is consenting to it. If there were consent, then it wouldn't be cheating. It'd just be an open relationship.

But we don't typically use the word consent in this context. Spouses don't consent to all kinds of things their partner may do. Staying out without calling, drinking, hanging out with a friend they hate, buying an expensive treat for themselves.

Consent has serious implications when it comes to sexual matters. I don't think we could or should extend that concept's context to being a shitty spouse. Lack of consent in sexual matters is a crime. Lack of consent in a relationship could just mean being an asshole. And even then, maybe the partner's threshold for consent of behavior is unreasonable. "You can't go out with your friends!" might not be a reasonable expectation or request in a marriage. Would we say if the spouse went out anyway, their partner is a non-consenting adult?

that the spouse "loves and supports" him ...

His wife will no doubt file for divorce after he's sworn in. I would.

for the US senate and a newlywed. And he is sexting six women.

This is a pos poll without this option 👎💀

The discourse on this here on DU has been pretty appalling.

makes me wonder, for sure

while I agree getting the House is important, I never thought I'd see the day when misogyny and nazi tattoos are dismissed as mere trivialities on a progressive site

That Trump brought me so low that I am willing to fight for candidates so flawed as I do.

It genuinely gnaws at me, and what I am (truly) willing to accept to win elections.

I don't want it to start a trend

I get it. I see the issues that are out there. I really need to see Susan Collins go. All I want for Xmas. And Talarico elected. And Cooper. And Brown. And Peltola. And Osborne.

I'll reevaluate the intersection of my moral and political compass after. Recalibrate as needed.

I don't compromise my principles to the point I need to "revaluate" - nope

over and OUT

Notice OP attacking me and many other women in this thread. His harassing me and others in this and his other threads has stopped me from really commenting on this.

It is bullying and sexist.

they are not exclusive to repukes

the IGNORE function can come in handy; yes indeed

Here, have this one too.

Definitions of "sexting" seem pretty fluid, with no one description that everyone agrees on

If it had just been two people consenting to the exchange of legal photos, audio/videos, etc we would probably never have heard about it.

But it gained attention when non-consensual elements were found - leaking, revenge-posting, etc. So is it really accurate to define that as "sexting?"

I'm too old for this shit...

sexting six other women. Whose ages are unknown, by the way. Not sure we can just presume they are all adults.

Pretty risky these days for a hopeful public figure though

Does his personal behavior matters in that situation?

If he’s a liar and a cheat then it bears directly on his fitness for office.

Like I said

Legal, consensual, none of our business, BUT pretty boneheaded when everyone's talking about your sex life and not the policies you've been campaigning on

dumb

Somehow I doubt this particular situation is scaring GOP.

the same party that pimps for a porn-star banging rapist is........outraged

I'd certainly consider it cheating, and I think anyone else should too if their spouse was doing this.

Panties? Meet Wad. Discuss.

M. Wad, meet Mr. Panties.
Discuss.

For context, please allow me to present:

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You are not funny, you are bullying folks on here. I don't find you funny, and I consider your reply trolling.

who don't support single payer healthcare which would literally save thousands of lives annually. That seems like a much bigger problem than what happens on someone's iPhone.

This sort of personal stuff has no impact on anyone's lives at all except for those immediately involved. More than 50% of American's do not even have $500 in savings in case of an emergency. What exactly are we doing here?

If you want someone else they have a lot of catching up to do

Why would I believe him?

and I hope you'd hold others to that same amount of scrutiny. Let's be honest, there's a lot of politicians out there who say anything to win & who put their name on a bill then suddenly do an about face on the policies they said they support.

surely there are candidate to be found who support single payer but don't sport nazi tattoos and behave in disgusting ways.....what are we doing here, INDEED

but this is very last minute and I'm thinking there simply isn't enough time to make it happen. That said, I've learned to never say never when it comes to politics. After all look at the piece of fungus currently in the White House.

Not so much concerned in isolation about it. But it does give me a bit of pause for two reasons.

The first is the long history of men who act entitled on sex also having issues around consent. At this point, there's nothing like that with Platner.

The other issue is combined with his reddit behavior, it seems like he has issues with impulse control. And because it's more recent than his reddit comments, it suggests to me he hasn't matured or healed enough to get past that. Again not disqualifying in itself, but it brings up questions.

I get it. Not everyone is as squeaky clean as Obama, and men like JFK were able to be consequential presidents while having morals that I find distasteful. And a dumbass like George W Bush as far as I know didn't cheat on his wife but he still sucked.

Everything in life involves compromise. Even if I got elected president and got to be in charge, I'd still have to deal with others. Platner isn't perfect. He's highly likely to be the candidate and based on current polling the favorite to win the Senate seat. So at least so far, his issues aren't a blocker for the voters in Maine. And just like with everyone, hopefully his good qualities outweigh his negative ones especially given he's likely to be a senator in January.

"Somewhere MAGAS are laughing their asses off and eating popcorn"? Bummer.

All good.

however, it DOES show a SERIOUS LACK OF GOOD JUDGEMENT. And THAT can come into play for, say, job prospects.

though in today's world, it's probably not wise.

Sexting 12 different women shortly after you've gotten married suggests a behavioral health problem.

Congrats on your 16th post

By a Republican if we said meh, or condemned him?
I'm pretty sure I know the answer but don't care enough to confirm it.

I will say the same as I said to people about Bill Clinton: marital infidelity is a matter between the spouses. It is a sign of poor character but in and of itself does not mean a person is automatically disqualified from office.

There are risks involved in this activity even between consenting adults. Think 🤔 long and hard before you do this. Are you willing to accept the risks and consequences mentioned in this thread?