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OAITW r.2.0

(32,992 posts)
Tue Jun 2, 2026, 11:52 PM Jun 2

Why I never worried about Biden's health.

He had a competent and working Federal Government and serious Cabinet choices.

The clown show Trump has assembled would put P.T. Barnum to shame.

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Why I never worried about Biden's health. (Original Post) OAITW r.2.0 Jun 2 OP
Kamala.... n/t Chemical Bill Jun 3 #1
Hillary/Harris 2028. OAITW r.2.0 Jun 3 #2
That's a good way to get another Republican president iemanja Jun 3 #4
If you read The Conyers Report... Chemical Bill Jun 3 #7
And what would their campaign slogan be, "The third time's the charm"? Rob H. Jun 4 #15
Also that. nt eppur_se_muova Jun 3 #5
He listened to experts, he knew how to delegate, and he had a VP ready to step in Warpy Jun 3 #3
I didn't either. LisaL Jun 3 #6
Stage IV cancer is worth worrying about mr715 Jun 3 #8
Not So Fast DET Jun 3 #10
But the cancer was there are was real. mr715 Jun 4 #11
Yes, But DET Jun 4 #13
I was under the impression that any cancer can affect mental acuity mr715 Jun 4 #14
Beyond My Pay Grade DET Jun 4 #17
Nailed it, DET OAITW r.2.0 Jun 4 #12
Plus... Chemical Bill Jun 3 #9
I'm sorry but what good did it do? mr715 Jun 4 #16
I was explaining why I wasn't worried about President Biden. Chemical Bill Jun 4 #18
I understand, but "performing well" is poorly defined. mr715 Jun 4 #19
Have you read The Conyers Report? n/t Chemical Bill Jun 4 #21
No mr715 Jun 4 #22
Please read it before you blame any Democrat. Chemical Bill Jun 4 #23
Plus Mad_Machine76 Jun 4 #20

iemanja

(57,814 posts)
4. That's a good way to get another Republican president
Wed Jun 3, 2026, 02:44 AM
Jun 3

Voters don’t want to constantly look to the past. We need to move the country forward.

While you may not have worried about Biden’s health, his wife does. She just said she didn’t think he could have managed a second term. He does have late stage cancer.

Your point about his having competent cabinet choices is, however, sound.

Chemical Bill

(3,249 posts)
7. If you read The Conyers Report...
Wed Jun 3, 2026, 11:12 PM
Jun 3

you recognized all of the ways Republicans cheated to win in '16 and '24.

Rob H.

(6,004 posts)
15. And what would their campaign slogan be, "The third time's the charm"?
Thu Jun 4, 2026, 01:26 PM
Jun 4

Running them again individually would be inviting disaster, much less having them on the same ticket.

Warpy

(114,766 posts)
3. He listened to experts, he knew how to delegate, and he had a VP ready to step in
Wed Jun 3, 2026, 02:22 AM
Jun 3

if his health had significantly worsened, the VP either taking on part of the workload or taking over completely via a peceful and lawful transfer of power.

That's why I was annoyed beyond belief when the fools at the top pushed Biden out at the last minuute, leaving Harris too little time to campaign. I didn't expect Biden's health to hold up for another 4 years but that isn't a problem. It's why we have Vice Presidents.

LisaL

(48,039 posts)
6. I didn't either.
Wed Jun 3, 2026, 10:28 AM
Jun 3

There was a chance he would not be able to finish his second term. But we would have had a competent replacement, so I had no worries.

mr715

(4,883 posts)
8. Stage IV cancer is worth worrying about
Wed Jun 3, 2026, 11:14 PM
Jun 3

Yes, he had advisors and competent ministers...

But part of why he was not winning that election was because he was perceived as ill, while Trump was not. They gave Trump a pass.

Doesn't change the Stage IV cancer.

DET

(2,671 posts)
10. Not So Fast
Wed Jun 3, 2026, 11:47 PM
Jun 3

Biden was not diagnosed with prostate cancer until May 2025, long after the election. That was not a factor in the election. The concern at the time was Biden’s mental acuity after the disastrous debate (ironic, given Trump’s obvious longstanding mental health issues). Biden may have been perceived as physically ill at the time of the election, but that was largely a creation of the biased media.

mr715

(4,883 posts)
11. But the cancer was there are was real.
Thu Jun 4, 2026, 12:06 AM
Jun 4

Rapidly growing cancer can easily influence mental state.

DET

(2,671 posts)
13. Yes, But
Thu Jun 4, 2026, 12:36 AM
Jun 4

The public was not aware of Biden’s illness. Even Biden was not aware of his illness. And prostate cancer - even metastatic prostate cancer - does not affect one’s mental state - unless it progresses to the brain or some other vital organ, which it usually doesn’t until the end.

Biden’s cancer had progressed to the bone, which is typical of stage four PC. That can certainly be painful, but it doesn’t generally affect mental acuity. Ironically, the treatment for stage four PC (essentially, chemical castration through various drugs) can affect mental health. My husband kept complaining of ‘brain fog’ during treatment. We recently found out that he has a high level of tau in his blood. I’m convinced that the relatively recently discovered miraculous life saving drugs are the cause.

mr715

(4,883 posts)
14. I was under the impression that any cancer can affect mental acuity
Thu Jun 4, 2026, 01:15 PM
Jun 4

Or rather there are anecdotal reports of that.

The mechanism being the build up of various metabolic toxins in the blood and less glucose getting to the brain because it is being consumed by the cancer.

DET

(2,671 posts)
17. Beyond My Pay Grade
Thu Jun 4, 2026, 04:28 PM
Jun 4

You could well be right. I can only speak to my layperson understanding of prostate cancer based on personal research and anecdotal reports from knowledgable PC forums.

Chemical Bill

(3,249 posts)
9. Plus...
Wed Jun 3, 2026, 11:17 PM
Jun 3

he ate McCarthy's lunch in budget negotiations, and then ate Johnson's lunch on the debt ceiling. Corporate media forgot to mention that.

Chemical Bill

(3,249 posts)
18. I was explaining why I wasn't worried about President Biden.
Thu Jun 4, 2026, 05:00 PM
Jun 4

President Biden was performing well even after the election. As I said, it's funny how corporate media forgot to mention that.

Yes, we are fighting an uphill battle against TSF, the ultra-rich tech bros, the ultra-right wingers like Heritage Foundation and Federalist Society, and the corporate media. Yes, it hurts.

mr715

(4,883 posts)
19. I understand, but "performing well" is poorly defined.
Thu Jun 4, 2026, 07:02 PM
Jun 4

He was losing reelection based on polling. He was running a lethargic campaign. And the debate.

In this particular case, performance is entirely outcome driven for me. He did not succeed at stopping Trump, and therefore was not performing well.

Mad_Machine76

(25,073 posts)
20. Plus
Thu Jun 4, 2026, 07:04 PM
Jun 4

We knew he had a similarly competent VPOTUS who could easily step in and take over if she had to (which is why we have VPOTUS).

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