For many reasons.

How the hell would a person have more than four grandparents? (given that they are so into strict nuclear families and biological parentage and all).

But I know what you mean.

use the word logic when talking about Ann Coulter.

But I finally figured it out.

I've never forgotten about it, and I've mentioned I've many times, but I had forgotten that Willie performed it. I recall reading that it was first performed by some comedy duo in 1947, which, incidentally, was the year I was born!

had grandparents born in the in the late 1800s. And mortality rates being what they were, it's not impossible for one or more of the grandparents to have married more than once.

They are obsessed with proofs; obsessed with biological heritage. God forbid you change a last name. For them, these theoretical voters would have to produce proof of four grandparents having been born in the United States. Specifically:

Person X's birth certificate with both father and mother named.

X's father's birth certificate, with their father (X's paternal grandfather) and mother (X's paternal grandmother) named.

X's mother's birth certificate, with their father (X's maternal grandfather) and mother (X's maternal grandmother) named.

Birth certificates for each of the following to prove they were born here:
X's named paternal grandfather
X's named paternal grandmother
X's named maternal grandfather
X's named maternal grandmother

Of the 56% of American's who self-identify as third-generation U.S. Citizens I would guess that at most, 10% could produce proofs that would satisfy Ms. Coulter and her ilk.

But that is apparently her dream nation, one where only third-generation people who can prove it can vote.

and logic to a nonsensical comment by a rwnj. I wonder, if she looked at her family tree, would she find all her grandparents had been born here in America? And how loudly would she screech if she found they hadn't?

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was born in 1858 (per 1870 census) and I was born in 1940. Grandma was second ( and younger) wife. There are some grandkids younger than I, still living. Almost all of my grand-parents going back to late 1700s were born here.

Married twice, the second to a much, much younger woman in the 1844 - with whom he had 7 kids, including a daughter the year before he died when he was 70 (the old traitorous Confederate bastard).
His 11th or so child Lyon Gardner Tyler (born 1852, died 1935) and he also married twice - a second time in 1923, and had amongst his 8 kids, a son while in his mid 60's - Harrison Ruffin Tyler, (born 1968, died 2025), the oldest grandchild of a President.
Harrison might have barely known his father, likewise his father probably barely knew the former President, but that definitely is one longest 3 generational spans out there.

would make sense, or just four grandparents. She probably gets paid for each word.

They are obsessed with proofs; obsessed with "bloodline" and biological heritage. God forbid you change a last name.

Just imagine how far they could limit the franchise if they decided you had to produce birth certificates proving your status as a third-generation 'Merican?

Person X's birth certificate with both father and mother named.

Matching birth certificate for X's father, with their father (X's paternal grandfather) and mother (X's paternal grandmother) named.

Matching birth certificate for X's mother, with their father (X's maternal grandfather) and mother (X's maternal grandmother) named.

Matching birth certificates for each of the following to prove they were born here:
X's named paternal grandfather
X's named paternal grandmother
X's named maternal grandfather
X's named maternal grandmother

I have 4 grandparents (great grandparents, great-great grandparents, great-great-great-grandparents, etc.) born in America or on the soil that would become America and I wouldn't vote for him.

One was born in Germany and came here with her parents and siblings when she was 4 years old. But since she came from the same country as 2 of the orange snowflake's grandparents, maybe that makes me American enough to vote. One grandparent made it just under the wire. He was born here two weeks after his parents arrived.

But my other two grandparents trace back to colonial MA and CT, with Revolutionary War vets among their ancestors, so maybe that gives me extra American points? In fact, those two also trace back to Indigenous people already here when Europeans arrived. Can't get much more American than that.

But I would never vote for the orange snowfkake and I am sure that none of my grandparents would have either.

so jealous. Still didn't qualify.

The white ancestors came from Ireland and England early on. The black ancestors came as slaves.

I've always felt more like a citizen of the world.

who I I have long suspected were born in Canada, but never found records to verify it. Now that Canada has opened up its citizenship to descendants, I am researching that line very closely again.

Thanks!

go back to the Revolutionary War.

TFG is a carpetbagger

Neither of us have or would vote for that thing infesting the White House

Dad’s side was 1700’s. Mom’s was supposedly second boat at Plymouth.

grandparents. Doesn't make anyone more American. I don't feel more American than a person who was naturalized. I probably take it more for granted than they ever will.

But she wasn't going for logic, she was going for the anti-immigrant sentiment. Her "logic" does exactly what was stated - stops Trump and all of his kids from voting because none of them have 4 American-born grandparents. Neither does Ted Cruz nor Marco Rubio.

Trump is full of shit and hate. So is Coulter.

The damage done by the Offal in the Oval (credit to Shower Cap’s Blog) to the country may never be undone.

I knew not to vote for him because he was a piece of excrement before he ran.

Even in death. They'll just be burying a pile of shit. A cat could do it.

"If black people didn't vote, Dubya would have won in a landslide."

And so could my Latina wife, and so could most African Americans.

This is probably objectively incorrect, in addition to being bigoted.

I imagine I could cook up all sorts of interesting -- and FAR MORE ATTRACTIVE -- outcomes that would result from targeting and disappearing this or that 45% of the citizens of the United States.

Cause that's what she's doing. Declaring "gee, it would be great if 45% of the citizens of this nation just f-ing disappeared."

Evil, bizarre, deranged thinking.

https://news.gallup.com/poll/4621/majority-americans-identify-themselves-third-generation-americans.aspx

Maybe it's a slur?

...were born in America and how abjectly stupid you are.

We should probably add that question to job applications or something.

Four of my grandparents were indeed born in the USA.

The other four were born in Slovakia, Yugoslavia, Belize and Zambia at the end of the 19th century.

Extra points to anyone who can find the borders of any of those four countries on any 19th century map.

Heck let's make it 10 born here grandparents!!

... always find a way to plumb new depths of assholery.

I hate stupidity.

to celebrate the group of people, and their ancestors, that were responsible for the extreme GENOCIDE of the Native Americans in the U.S..................historians estimated that these "immigrants" AND THEIR GOVERNMENT, were directly responsible for murdering 30-60 MILLION of the TRUE American Indigenous Native Americans, and stealing their land......

Not something I would brag about................

For those who are not familiar with irony, I am responding to her wording "at least" 4 grandparents.

would not be approved of, especially anyone who may have left Europe sensing the incoming fascistic tendencies perhaps? This would mean their parents wouldn't be approved of either because they clearly came from somewhere else too.

I never trusted her supposed "conversion". I don't think she apologized to the 911 widows she slandered on the Today Show. It'll be the twentyeth anniversary of that on Saturday. I'm sure the clip is on YouTube. F her.

She has to get her brain dirty again.