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paulkienitz

(1,528 posts)
Thu Jun 4, 2026, 04:07 AM 6 hrs ago

longshot prediction: the AI bubble gets popped this month by the SpaceX IPO, so get out NOW

When SpaceX asks for $1.75 trillion and doesn't get it, that might be the moment that the AI stock market bubble stops inflating and starts tipping into a crash. I'm leaving this here just on the off chance that I get to say "called it" later.

But seriously, it's time get out of the stock market. Especially index funds and anything large-cap. My hunch is that this danger has gone from looming to urgent. Start the process of getting out TODAY, if you haven't acted yet.

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longshot prediction: the AI bubble gets popped this month by the SpaceX IPO, so get out NOW (Original Post) paulkienitz 6 hrs ago OP
Sold my last 3 stocks. Moved money to a multigraincracker 3 hrs ago #1
You may be right edhopper 3 hrs ago #2
If the Democrats win back Congress this fall I predict a stock market correction. yardwork 1 hr ago #4
There are no crashes anymore. Market is rigged and irrational GreatGazoo 1 hr ago #3
That kind of rigging can't hold forever paulkienitz 39 min ago #11
and yet here we are GreatGazoo 9 min ago #15
The issue is how many times have we been told to leave the market? Melon 1 hr ago #5
Yeah, that's where I am ITAL 52 min ago #8
No it's not "just as risky". paulkienitz 47 min ago #9
WSJ and Gallup did a story looking at how Democrat voters are losing money GreatGazoo 5 min ago #16
"Democratic." The adjective form is "Democratic." ColoringFool 1 min ago #17
No Johnny2X2X 57 min ago #6
I've heard that song before. paulkienitz 42 min ago #10
We've been waiting decades for a bubble Johnny2X2X 35 min ago #12
Index funds are like 50% AI bubble now. paulkienitz 16 min ago #14
People are predicting the market is holding on Johonny 55 min ago #7
I turned some investments into a newer and larger house CanonRay 23 min ago #13
I'll just keep my NVIDIA,TYVM. ColoringFool 1 min ago #18

multigraincracker

(38,139 posts)
1. Sold my last 3 stocks. Moved money to a
Thu Jun 4, 2026, 07:02 AM
3 hrs ago

Money market account based on gov bonds to protect against inflation. If market crashes, cash will be king. Impossible to pick highs and lows, but there are some things you can do to be ready.

yardwork

(69,778 posts)
4. If the Democrats win back Congress this fall I predict a stock market correction.
Thu Jun 4, 2026, 08:35 AM
1 hr ago

They call it a correction. I call it deliberately crashing the market when they can blame Democrats.

GreatGazoo

(4,765 posts)
3. There are no crashes anymore. Market is rigged and irrational
Thu Jun 4, 2026, 08:12 AM
1 hr ago

Looks like only the QQQ will have to buy the SpaceX IPO with a time constraint but even then only in proportion to the float which is low. Morningstar thinks SpaceX will make up less than 1% of the SPY so even if SpaceX became worthless in August the "crash" for those holding passive indexed funds would be less than -1%.

It is a ponzi scheme but so is the whole economy. That's why we have $39 trillion debt. The crypto bubble got Ponzi'd into the AI bubble, eg lots of crypto mining infrastructure got rebranded as "data centers". Crypto is crashing right now but the market isn't.

Losing the Iran war and struggling in Ukraine is driving investment in new weapons systems. "Space" mostly means military systems like satellites, hypersonic missiles and directed energy weapons (DEW). Airplanes and tanks are getting replaced. No expense will be spared.

My prediction: SpaceX is not profitable as is so it will use some of the IPO money to buy related companies that are closer to profit or already in the black: RDW, RKLB, LUNR, RCAT, etc. Many of these have doubled in the last month.

I would not sell SPY and would hold off on buying more QQQ until the dust settles a bit but crashes are now impossible. The stock market is socialism (ironic) for Boomers and the investor class. Investors and banks are the only ones that get bailed out in a downturn (see 2008 and March 2020). They will print enough $$$ to backstop the markets no matter what. I like GLD or GLDM right now. Easy call -- it will continue to rise as oil reroutes and output increases. Shiny rocks.

GLDM will be over $120 by year end, up 30% from right now. Has good support at $85-87 so danged little risk now.

https://www.marketwatch.com/investing/fund/gldm

paulkienitz

(1,528 posts)
11. That kind of rigging can't hold forever
Thu Jun 4, 2026, 09:32 AM
39 min ago

in the face of continued overinvestment in stuff that won't pay for itself.

Melon

(1,785 posts)
5. The issue is how many times have we been told to leave the market?
Thu Jun 4, 2026, 08:55 AM
1 hr ago

My portfolio is up 20% this year. Slightly more last year. It’s literally changing my retirement horizon.
The message was to leave last year on trump election. The message was to get out end of 2025. I absolutely know individuals who did and are now really far behind.
I used to get in and out for these reasons, and at the end of the day never came out ahead.
Market timing is a bad bet usually. Take some profits sure, but on a multi year crime horizon no. I would even say it’s at your own risk of returns to not be invested in AI and yes…space X. There are bubbles but the US through 401k accounts has a continuous influx of investment cash going into the market. AI is the foreseeable future and the most successful entrepreneur in the world is Musk. It’s just as risky to bet against those things.

ITAL

(1,410 posts)
8. Yeah, that's where I am
Thu Jun 4, 2026, 09:19 AM
52 min ago

Maybe if I were older I'd take everything out...but even if there's a big crash on the order of '08, the market recovered within a few short years.

paulkienitz

(1,528 posts)
9. No it's not "just as risky".
Thu Jun 4, 2026, 09:25 AM
47 min ago

The only "risk" of being out is that you might miss a share of an ill-gotten ponzi windfall.

GreatGazoo

(4,765 posts)
16. WSJ and Gallup did a story looking at how Democrat voters are losing money
Thu Jun 4, 2026, 10:07 AM
5 min ago

because they are more inclined than others to predict, or even want, financial collapse.

https://www.wsj.com/finance/investing/investment-portfolios-politics-6d186f91

Johnny2X2X

(24,476 posts)
6. No
Thu Jun 4, 2026, 09:15 AM
57 min ago

Market is going to do well, it's completely divorced from the economy now. Do not let politics affect your money. Stay in, but of course hedged in your mix.

paulkienitz

(1,528 posts)
10. I've heard that song before.
Thu Jun 4, 2026, 09:30 AM
42 min ago

Every bubble, just before it pops, gets heralded as a new era where economic fundamentals are no longer a relevant limit.

This bubble is going to collapse as soon as it sinks in that all the new AI models and datacenters are unable to recoup their costs from paying users.

Johnny2X2X

(24,476 posts)
12. We've been waiting decades for a bubble
Thu Jun 4, 2026, 09:36 AM
35 min ago

Been like 18 years now. Kept going up under Obama, under Trump, under Biden, and now under Trump again. At each stage there were people who sold for political reasons and missed out on record gains. If you sold under Trump's first term, your portfolio missed out on fantastic gains. If you sold because things looked dire during Covid, you missed out on incredible gains. If you sold when Trump took back over you missed out on very broad and significant gains.

Some people have been predicting a crash for decades now, there are more signs that we are about to see incredible growth than a significant pull back, and that's even if an AI bubble falters.

Johonny

(26,727 posts)
7. People are predicting the market is holding on
Thu Jun 4, 2026, 09:16 AM
55 min ago

To pop one more time for the SpaceX IPO.

In reality, the 1970s oil embargo saw a recession stock market crash that took 6 to 9 months to realize. The market is likely to see a significant oil endured pull back by late summer...

CanonRay

(16,290 posts)
13. I turned some investments into a newer and larger house
Thu Jun 4, 2026, 09:48 AM
23 min ago

in a location impossible to duplicate. Those funds are now pretty crash proof, although not very liquid.

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