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mainer

(12,637 posts)
Fri Jun 5, 2026, 10:13 PM Jun 5

Fellow Marine corroborates Platner re tattoo

A Marine who served with Graham Platner in Iraq and got matching tattoos with him in Croatia pushed back on a new claim, published in the New York Times on Thursday, that they deliberately chose a Nazi-style symbol.

Fifield told the paper that Platner knew his skull-and-crossbones tattoo resembled a Nazi symbol and had called it “my Totenkopf.” Platner has consistently denied this charge, which was first reported by Jewish Insider and CNN in the fall. Fifield appears to have been the source for both of those stories.
(Snip)

Phil Proschko, who served with Platner in the Marines, dismissed this claim in a brief interview with Zeteo on Friday.

“No, we did not purposely get hateful fucking shit because we’re racist people,” he said. “We got matching tattoos because we were in our 20s, drunk in Croatia, and that’s it. That’s all that fucking happened.”
Proschko, who participated in a Platner veterans town hall several weeks ago, told the story of their tattoos this way: “We went, we got matching tattoos that we pulled off the wall, or it was out of a book, I don’t remember. We thought it looked cool, something to commemorate what happened, all the people we lost in our unit in Ramadi.”


https://open.substack.com/pub/zeteo/p/platners-fellow-marine-pushes-back?utm_campaign=post-expanded-share&utm_medium=web
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Fellow Marine corroborates Platner re tattoo (Original Post) mainer Jun 5 OP
Thank you for sharing this orangecrush Jun 5 #1
Consider the source OrangeJoe Jun 6 #14
so why not get it removed? ret5hd Jun 5 #2
He has had it covered up. SalamanderSleeps Jun 5 #3
Post removed Post removed Jun 5 #4
how convenient Skittles Jun 5 #7
So he didn't know what it was when he got it, but leaned into it later after finding out, only getting rid of it... Lancero Jun 5 #11
When did he lean into it? mainer Jun 6 #18
To him it didnt symbolize hatred ever. It symbolized his dead friends who gave their life so he can go home. SSJVegeta Jun 6 #13
his friends must feel really honored. ret5hd Jun 6 #27
We honor the dead for ourselves. Not for them. SSJVegeta Jun 7 #31
he got it tattooed over into a different design eShirl Jun 6 #26
Kicked and recommended Uncle Joe Jun 5 #5
Some people will never be satisfied ornotna Jun 5 #6
The accusation appeared in a story relating Lyndsey Fifield's experiences with Platner when they dated in the 2010s. Celerity Jun 6 #16
Thanks for supporting Democrats! Ponietz Jun 5 #8
Not sure why some people on this forum GenThePerservering Jun 5 #9
I was young once, sometimes acted stupidly, but was never drunk. Far niyad Jun 5 #12
Young, drunk, male and having just seen friends blown up in front of you lostnfound Jun 6 #25
Some people were busy working their way through college and did not milestogo Jun 6 #21
Some people were serving their country as Marines mainer Jun 7 #32
When does that excuse stop working? EdmondDantes_ Jun 6 #24
They got over the young and drunk parts Renew Deal Jun 7 #33
Guy with a Nazi tattoo Boo1 Jun 5 #10
The last time I saw a picture of it, it looked like the Emile Jun 6 #22
There was not enough alcohol BidenRocks Jun 6 #15
Getting rid of a tattoo is a painful, lengthy process mainer Jun 6 #17
Sounds like a defense of toxic masculinity. milestogo Jun 6 #19
Right, so let's vote for the woman who'll take away women's rights mainer Jun 6 #20
I do have a couple of questions... Nanjeanne Jun 6 #23
Lindsay is checking with her friend Bethany Mandel who coached her on her NYT story. AloeVera Jun 6 #30
Well, that's swell. 😕 Dave Bowman Jun 6 #28
We have a chance to get rid of that lizard Susan Collins ProfessorPlum Jun 6 #29

orangecrush

(31,841 posts)
1. Thank you for sharing this
Fri Jun 5, 2026, 10:42 PM
Jun 5


Funny how this account isn't plastered all over the media like some right wing operatives bullshit.

OrangeJoe

(562 posts)
14. Consider the source
Sat Jun 6, 2026, 12:59 AM
Jun 6

Ms Lyndsey Fifield, who is leading the charge on this story, worked for The Heritage Foundation as a Social Media Manager, so yeah she's a pro at drumming up outrage. She was one of the founders of "Justice for Kavanaugh, building up support for that drunken frat boy and covering up his misdeeds. Take her story with a big grain of salt. The control of the Senate and another two years of Trump rampaging through our life is at stake. The right wingers are pulling out all stops to protect vulnerable Republican members.

Response to SalamanderSleeps (Reply #3)

Lancero

(3,284 posts)
11. So he didn't know what it was when he got it, but leaned into it later after finding out, only getting rid of it...
Fri Jun 5, 2026, 11:32 PM
Jun 5

When it became politically problematic for him.

If he didn't have himself some political ambition, he'd still be wearing that shit with pride. To paraphrase another group, Pride in his Boys.

mainer

(12,637 posts)
18. When did he lean into it?
Sat Jun 6, 2026, 09:52 AM
Jun 6

The only person who says anything remotely like this is the female GOP operative who was quoted in the NYT article. She's the source for all the tattoo gossip. His fellow Marine, who got the same tattoo at the same time in Croatia, said they were drunk and young and had no idea it was a Nazi symbol.

SSJVegeta

(3,423 posts)
13. To him it didnt symbolize hatred ever. It symbolized his dead friends who gave their life so he can go home.
Sat Jun 6, 2026, 12:27 AM
Jun 6

Even knowing the origins, it didnt remotely symbolize to him hatred, but rather the deeply intertwined connections to the people in his unit.

He didn't wait to remove that tattoo in 2025 because he is a hateful nazi. But likely because it was one of the last material reminders of the people who paid the ultimate price.

Symbols aren't horrible because of what they intrinsically represent. They cant be, because they will almost always be subjectively interpreted. Their meanings are rooted on the actions of the people who carry them and the cultures that maintain them.

The swastika is similar but reversed. The longest known meaning of the swastika is not Nazism and hatred.

The swastika (known as "Manji" in Japan) is a Japanese Buddhist symbol that doesnt remotely represent hatred. It means good fortune, peace -and the footprint of Buddha.

But Hitler flipped it into something else entirely.

Platner's skull was the last remaining material reminder of the people who gave everything. He got rid of it because it offended other people. But the personal significance was beyond what any of us can imagine in the enormous sacrifices it represented by his friends.

SSJVegeta

(3,423 posts)
31. We honor the dead for ourselves. Not for them.
Sun Jun 7, 2026, 12:28 AM
Jun 7

Doesn't really do any good for them considering...

Celerity

(55,338 posts)
16. The accusation appeared in a story relating Lyndsey Fifield's experiences with Platner when they dated in the 2010s.
Sat Jun 6, 2026, 01:43 AM
Jun 6
Fifield, a conservative activist who previously led a PR campaign defending Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh from allegations of sexual assault, accused Platner of being physical with her, among other claims.

Fifield told the paper that Platner knew his skull-and-crossbones tattoo resembled a Nazi symbol and had called it “my Totenkopf.” Platner has consistently denied this charge, which was first reported by Jewish Insider and CNN in the fall. Fifield appears to have been the source for both of those stories.


Jewish Insider

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_Insider

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Jewish Insider has been characterized as right-leaning, neoconservative, and right-wing. The New Republic has described Jewish Insider as a pro-Israel media outlet which falsely accuses Israel's critics of antisemitism.

In September 2024, Jewish Insider published an article repeating a claim by Michigan Attorney General Dana Nessel that Representative Rashida Tlaib had said Nessel was targeting pro-Palestinian protesters at the University of Michigan due to being Jewish. The false claim was debunked by the Metro Times. Jewish Insider later updated its article, revising the wording without adding a correction by changing "claimed" to "suggested".

GenThePerservering

(4,078 posts)
9. Not sure why some people on this forum
Fri Jun 5, 2026, 11:26 PM
Jun 5

don't remember being young, drunk and stupid. Or maybe they were always perfect.

niyad

(135,297 posts)
12. I was young once, sometimes acted stupidly, but was never drunk. Far
Fri Jun 5, 2026, 11:35 PM
Jun 5

from perfect, but not drunk. And no nazi tattoos.

lostnfound

(17,711 posts)
25. Young, drunk, male and having just seen friends blown up in front of you
Sat Jun 6, 2026, 08:56 PM
Jun 6

i can’t judge what someone does after witnessing such horror. Fatalism or bonding with others or self-mutilation via tattoo to externalize the grief or pain or guilt that is eating you inside.

Not gonna judge that.

milestogo

(23,334 posts)
21. Some people were busy working their way through college and did not
Sat Jun 6, 2026, 10:04 AM
Jun 6

spend their youth getting drunk and stupid. Lots of people, in fact.

mainer

(12,637 posts)
32. Some people were serving their country as Marines
Sun Jun 7, 2026, 08:09 AM
Jun 7

Or is that considered “not working?”

EdmondDantes_

(2,277 posts)
24. When does that excuse stop working?
Sat Jun 6, 2026, 10:52 AM
Jun 6

Okay you want to use it to excuse the tattoo and then his reddit comments. But does it cover mistreating women as recently as 2021? Does it excuse sexting outside of his marriage even more recently? Using retarded as a slur? At what point are our actions a reflection of who we are as an adult?

One of the key things I took from therapy is that your actions are the real demonstration of your values and if your professed values don't match your actions, you either have to change your actions to match or you're lying to yourself.

BidenRocks

(3,645 posts)
15. There was not enough alcohol
Sat Jun 6, 2026, 01:17 AM
Jun 6

to make me want a tattoo.
I was in the shops with friends. watching and thinking.
Ain't no way! What if I change?
Anyway, not a fan.

mainer

(12,637 posts)
17. Getting rid of a tattoo is a painful, lengthy process
Sat Jun 6, 2026, 06:34 AM
Jun 6

How many men would bother?

Tattoo removal is something where people really need to seek out the right treatment and usually that’s with a slow, methodical treatment approach in a dermatology office using either a Q-switched laser or pico-type wavelengths,” said Joel Cohen, MD, associate clinical professor of dermatology at the University of California at Irvine.

And that slow approach means your tattoo isn’t going to just disappear overnight. The process is pretty lengthy with multiple laser treatment sessions required to accomplish complete removal. Although it depends on the design, size, and color of your ink, laser tattoo removal can take 1 to 10 sessions, with 6-week healing periods in between sessions.


https://www.menshealth.com/health/a35614963/tattoo-removal-facts-cost-risks/?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=mgu_ga_mnh_md_pmx_prog_org_us_22327065516&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=22333585820&gbraid=0AAAAACrVUPltwk8buNGSjURTfDf9s2kX1&gclid=Cj0KCQjwio_RBhDMARIsAJPveNOiOzWZeGqe1FCA-lft3hqgGQU_ocTXlYkVftXvMFaIWCmTDBCzup0aAkCyEALw_wcB

milestogo

(23,334 posts)
19. Sounds like a defense of toxic masculinity.
Sat Jun 6, 2026, 10:01 AM
Jun 6

Being in combat does not justify treating women like crap.

mainer

(12,637 posts)
20. Right, so let's vote for the woman who'll take away women's rights
Sat Jun 6, 2026, 10:03 AM
Jun 6

Because you just don't like the cut of this man's jib.

Nanjeanne

(6,825 posts)
23. I do have a couple of questions...
Sat Jun 6, 2026, 10:25 AM
Jun 6

Fifield - if I were in a relationship with a guy who bragged about a Nazi tattoo — I’d be outta there in a flash. Hey, Lindsey - if true why did you stay with a Nazi sympathizer?

Fifield certainly made it sound like this was something Platner was proud of having. So with all these other women in his life that he undoubtedly was naked with — did not one of them say “hey what’s this thing on your chest and why did he know proudly say that’s my Nazi tattoo”? Cause not a single other woman has mentioned him talking about this Nazi symbol.

And other than this tattoo - has there been any indication of Platner being a Nazi sympathizer? Organizations? Policies? Because nothing has come up that makes me believe he is. But I do know that Fifield - the only woman who has mentioned this — regularly tweets/retweets Stephen Miller- a real Nazi.

AloeVera

(4,640 posts)
30. Lindsay is checking with her friend Bethany Mandel who coached her on her NYT story.
Sat Jun 6, 2026, 10:51 PM
Jun 6

For a proper tesponse to your question.

But Bethany is busy writing for the New York Post and Washington Examiner. Or maybe she's still figuring out how to tie Platner with her Stolen Youth book. It's about how progressives are turning America's kids into moral degenerates.




ProfessorPlum

(11,467 posts)
29. We have a chance to get rid of that lizard Susan Collins
Sat Jun 6, 2026, 10:18 PM
Jun 6

and we are still debating this shit?

jesus wept

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